AZ - Lori Vallow Daybell charged w/ conspiring to kill ex-husband Charles Vallow and another relative, Brandon Boudreaux, Chandler, Maricopa County #2

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Does anyone have the prosecution's witness list handy? If so could you please post it?
Thank you NEVER MIND. Fount the list on Justin Lum's FB

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Am I the only one that thinks before this is over LVD may throw a tantrum and refuse to participate at some point before this case goes to the jury? Even if I am the only one who thinks that is a possibility, could someone more knowledgeable than myself, tell me what would happen if she did? Would the judge have to declare a mistrial? Is that a basis for a mistrial? Would they let her sit in her cell in contempt of court and finish by trying here in absentia? If they did that, would the judge appoint counsel and give a continuance for counsel to prepare? Would they start over or give the new counsel an opportunity to re-cross any witnesses who may have already testified? Or would the stand-by attorney be compelled to complete the trial from whatever point they are at when it happens if it happens? Or would the judge just state for the record that defense has declined to cross examine witnesses or call their own or present a closing argument? It’s my understanding that now that the trial has begun with jury selection in progress, LVD may not simply change her mind about representing herself but I suspect that she learned today that her lack of experience or knowledge or being incarcerated isn’t going to get her any automatic sympathy from the court or allow her to proceed without following the rules of evidence. If she has any sense left she has to be realizing what a mistake it was to represent herself by now. Will she see it thru to the end or will she decide at some point to refuse to continue?
 
aafromaa said:
Am I the only one that thinks before this is over LVD may throw a tantrum and refuse to participate at some point before this case goes to the jury? Even if I am the only one who thinks that is a possibility, could someone more knowledgeable than myself, tell me what would happen if she did? Would the judge have to declare a mistrial? Is that a basis for a mistrial? Would they let her sit in her cell in contempt of court and finish by trying here in absentia? If they did that, would the judge appoint counsel and give a continuance for counsel to prepare? Would they start over or give the new counsel an opportunity to re-cross any witnesses who may have already testified? Or would the stand-by attorney be compelled to complete the trial from whatever point they are at when it happens if it happens? Or would the judge just state for the record that defense has declined to cross examine witnesses or call their own or present a closing argument? It’s my understanding that now that the trial has begun with jury selection in progress, LVD may not simply change her mind about representing herself but I suspect that she learned today that her lack of experience or knowledge or being incarcerated isn’t going to get her any automatic sympathy from the court or allow her to proceed without following the rules of evidence. If she has any sense left she has to be realizing what a mistake it was to represent herself by now. Will she see it thru to the end or will she decide at some point to refuse to continue?
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If she does, I think a lawyer is appointed for her. I know representing himself got to be too much for my cousin's killer. She can bow out at any time. I think most likely the judge would pick the lawyer who has been advising her, so that they're already up to speed with the case, so that they don't have to delay for a brand new lawyer to get up to speed. Judges are used to these games. My cousin's killer fired 8 lawyers until the judge said enough.
 
LinasK said:
If she does, I think a lawyer is appointed for her. I know representing himself got to be too much for my cousin's killer. She can bow out at any time. I think most likely the judge would pick the lawyer who has been advising her, so that they're already up to speed with the case, so that they don't have to delay for a brand new lawyer to get up to speed. Judges are used to these games. My cousin's killer fired 8 lawyers until the judge said enough.
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So sorry to hear about your cousin.
 
aafromaa said:
Am I the only one that thinks before this is over LVD may throw a tantrum and refuse to participate at some point before this case goes to the jury? Even if I am the only one who thinks that is a possibility, could someone more knowledgeable than myself, tell me what would happen if she did? Would the judge have to declare a mistrial? Is that a basis for a mistrial? Would they let her sit in her cell in contempt of court and finish by trying here in absentia? If they did that, would the judge appoint counsel and give a continuance for counsel to prepare? Would they start over or give the new counsel an opportunity to re-cross any witnesses who may have already testified? Or would the stand-by attorney be compelled to complete the trial from whatever point they are at when it happens if it happens? Or would the judge just state for the record that defense has declined to cross examine witnesses or call their own or present a closing argument? It’s my understanding that now that the trial has begun with jury selection in progress, LVD may not simply change her mind about representing herself but I suspect that she learned today that her lack of experience or knowledge or being incarcerated isn’t going to get her any automatic sympathy from the court or allow her to proceed without following the rules of evidence. If she has any sense left she has to be realizing what a mistake it was to represent herself by now. Will she see it thru to the end or will she decide at some point to refuse to continue?
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There is really no telling what might happen @aafromaa … one could surmise any number of possibilities with this defendant.

Maybe this defendant will want to look at the case of Sarah Boone in Florida. A case in which the defendant went through a number of defense attorneys before representing herself briefly, and then finally utilizing an attorney to represent her IIRC. And defendant Boone was offered what some believe a generous offer for a plea deal by the state that was rejected. Not at all saying that LVD is deserving of a plea, but noting another case. There are many threads here for the Boone trial in Florida. MOO
 
Campizi67 said:
I’ve been thinking about the recent motions Lorivb filed right before this trial…. Since she’s defending herself, but the court has appointed a lawyer to assist her if needed, it raises an interesting question: where is she getting the information and strategies for these motions? The tactics she’s using—like questioning the prosecutor’s integrity or alleging misconduct—seem a bit above what you’d expect from someone without legal training. It makes me wonder if she’s accessing outside help, possibly using AI or other resources to guide her actions.

While her appointed lawyer is there for support, it’s unclear if that lawyer is providing this type of strategic advice. Could Lori be getting information from another source? Is it possible that she’s tapping into something beyond the courtroom to help craft these motions, which seem to require more legal knowledge than she’s demonstrated before. Whether she’s trying to delay the trial, create doubt about the prosecution, or lay the groundwork for an appeal, it’s clear she’s attempting to influence the trial’s outcome, even if it’s uncertain whether these motions will succeed…..

The fact that she’s already serving life sentences makes me even more curious about what she’s hoping to accomplish here. Does she think this strategy might help her with the charges in this trial or with her other convictions?
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Probably using a prison legal aid Inmate. Most prisons have a law library and Inmates have unlimited access to a wealth of law and legal information. Believe it or not they are very good at what they do and often provide other inmate assistance with research and legal knowledge. They have nothing but time on their hands. It's probably where she got the idea to defend herself. JMO
 
Tuesday, April 1st:
*Jury Selection continues (Day 2) [Voir Dire] (Charles) (@ 9am MST) - AZ – Charles Vallow (62) shot & killed on July 11, 2019 in Chandler, AZ. *Lori Norene Daybell aka Lori Norene Vallow (46 @ time of crime/48/now 51) indicted (6/24/21), charged & arraigned (12/8/23) with 1 count of conspiracy to commit 1st degree murder. Plead not guilty. Held without bond. Maricopa County
AZ – Brandon Boudreaux (34/now 39) attempted murder on Oct. 2, 2019 in Gilbert, AZ. *Lori Norene Vallow (46 @ time of crime/49/now 51) indicted (2/24/22), charged & arraigned (12/7/23) with 1 count of 1st degree murder premeditated. Plead not guilty. Held without bond. Maricopa County
Trial [for Charles] set to begin on 3/31/25 with jury selection & go thru 4/1, 4/2 & 4/3/25.
Jury will consist of 12 jurors & 6 alternates.
Trial [for Brandon Boudreaux] will follow Charles’ trial. [Daybell wants to start Brandon trial on 5/11/25 & Judge said 5/12/25].
Trial set to begin on 4/7/25. [thru 5/15/25] [State wants 4/24/25 as half day]. @10:30am NO Court on Fridays or 4/28 or 4/29/25.
Judge Justin Beresky presiding. State’s attorney Ryan Green. DA Treena Jeanelle Kay. Defense attorneys Gerald Bradley & Denae Suchy.
Case info from 2/24/22 thru 3/27/25 reference post #93 here:
https://websleuths.com/threads/az-l...eaux-chandler-maricopa-county-2.739249/page-5
3/31/25 Monday, Jury Selection Day 1: Review of jurors’ responses. Had motion hearing re Nate Eaton. Judge ruled there's no reason to exclude Nate Eaton from court during Daybell's AZ murder trial by putting him on defense witness list, as it'd violate his ability to report on the case. The judge addressed several other issues too. 52 potential jurors move on. [see posts 110 to 113 & 118 to 120 for more info]. Jury selection continues with voir dire on Tuesday, 4/1/25.
ID – Vallow found guilty of all charges & sentenced to 3 consecutive life sentences without parole on 7/31/23.
 
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