AZ - Lori Vallow Daybell charged w/ conspiring to kill ex-husband Charles Vallow and another relative, Brandon Boudreaux, Chandler, Maricopa County #2

[Gigiky]

I was thinking today with all the evidence the state has against her why in hell is she doing this trial, with legal counsel defending her or her defending herself.

I concluded what else does she have to do with her time?
How else can she get attention?
The justice system is able to feed her toxic narcissism.

imo

Exactly. So true! My opinion also!

 

[Izzylizzy]

Excellent point @aafromaa LVD is the ONLY person still alive from that day! She can spin whatever fantasy story she wants. Same as happened that day that Charles Vallow was set up, for a premeditated murder. LVD set the stage.

I really wonder, the kids went outside, Charles Vallow came in, and was shot dead the minute he entered the home. I am pretty sure that is what occurred.

All for money. And she didn't even get one cent of that insurance cash. Oh, to have had a video of that phone call to collect on the insurance. Is there a recording of that call?

LE separated LVD, her brother and TR then interviewed them separately.
Then LVD and daughter TR were given a victim advocate.
Is TR's interview known, was it part of the pre-trial hearings to be entered as evidence ?
IMO

 

[Izzylizzy]

She didn't have a choice of going to trial on the charges- although she could have just plead guilty- but she did have a choice to represent herself. It's her way of getting her point "charm" across without actually testifying and facing cross-examination. She does have counsel on stand-by there to advise her.

Is it a done deal that she's not testifing?

 

[Izzylizzy]

I thought she brought up the sunglasses on his head to show his head must not have been hurting much if he was hit by a bat. I didn’t hear the part about the altercation not moving them. But I’d been without power for a couple of days and was trying to listen on my phone and missed a lot lol. (PS Power finally came n a few hours ago but i have to work tomorrow and still won’t be able to follow very closely lol)

She mentioned CV's high school baseball coach by name.
Is he alive to testify or deceased?
Something is up with CV being a leftie batter or rightie batter?
There was none of AC's blood on the bat.
imo
imo

 

[Izzylizzy]

 

[Deleted member 19575]

Exactly. So true! My opinion also!

totally! she's all alone in prison, everyone hates her because she killed her KIDS, and she gets to appear in front of an audience! I haven't seen any of it yet. Also she has nothing to lose, she's going to die in prison even if she's acquitted at this trial.
We don't see this type of circus in Canadian criminal trials, someone like Lori wouldn't get the attention and have cameras on her. No cameras allowed at trials, no devices or phones. But they can have drawings and you can see them on camera outside the courtroom.

 

[Cindizzi]

LVD’s opening statements

 

[iamshadow21]

Hey, Lor, if you were so fearful -- you know, from being chased by Charles with a baseball bat, why dincha call 911 as soon as you drove the children to safety?

And why did you send your daughter back inside to grab your stuff? We've all seen the video of Tylee talking about that in her police interview.

MOO

 

[Cindizzi]

 

[Niner]

Tuesday, April 8th:
*Trial continues (Day 2) (Charles) (@ 10:30am MST) - AZ – Charles Vallow (62) shot & killed on July 11, 2019 in Chandler, AZ. *Lori Norene Daybell aka Lori Norene Vallow (46 @ time of crime/48/now 51) indicted (6/24/21), charged & arraigned (12/8/23) with 1 count of conspiracy to commit 1st degree murder. Plead not guilty. Held without bond. Maricopa County
AZ – Brandon Boudreaux (34/now 40) attempted murder on Oct. 2, 2019 in Gilbert, AZ. *Lori Norene Vallow (46 @ time of crime/49/now 51) indicted (2/24/22), charged & arraigned (12/7/23) with 1 count of 1st degree murder premeditated. Plead not guilty. Held without bond. Maricopa County
Jury selection [for Charles] began on 3/31/25 & went thru 4/1/25.
Jury consists of 12 jurors & 4 alternates. [13 men & 3 women]. As of 4/8/25: 12 jurors & 3 alternates. [12 men & 3 women].
Trial [for Brandon Boudreaux]: Judge sets 6/2/25 for start of Boudreux trial. Trial will be Monday thru Friday, the following week [6/9/25] will be Monday thru Thursday & the Judge may be gone for training the following week [6/16/25].
Trial began on 4/7/25. [thru 5/15/25] [State wants 4/24/25 as half day]. @10:30am to 4:30pm. NO Court on Fridays or 4/28 or 4/29/25.
Judge Justin Beresky presiding. State’s attorney Ryan Green. DA Treena Jeanelle Kay. Vallow-Daybell Pro Se with advisory Defense attorneys Gerald Bradley & Denae Suchy.
Case info from 2/24/22 thru 3/27/25 & Jury selection Days 1-2 (3/31 & 4/1/25) & 4/4/25 reference post #257 here:
https://websleuths.com/threads/az-l...aux-chandler-maricopa-county-2.739249/page-13
4/7/25 Monday, Trial Day 1: Juror #3 was excused. Opening statements by DA Treena Kay & by pro se Vallow Daybell. Judge Beresky says Brandon Boudreaux is struck from the witness list without prejudice, meaning if Lori has relevant information to the case, he could be added back to the list. Boudreaux can remain in the courtroom.
State witnesses: Sgt. Irwin Wierzbicki with the Chandler Police Dept. DA showed a video to the jury. It’s the footage from Wierzbicki’s body camera. Robert Krautheim. He retired three years ago from the Chandler Police Dept. Treena asks to admit an exhibit. It’s Krautheim’s body camera footage. Audio has been removed other than his interaction with Lori Vallow Daybell. Exhibit is admitted. Scott Cowden. He’s a Chandler firefighter & responded to the shooting.
Trial continues on Tuesday, 4/8/25.
ID – Vallow found guilty of all charges & sentenced to 3 consecutive life sentences without parole on 7/31/23.

 

[Izzylizzy]

And why did you send your daughter back inside to grab your stuff? We've all seen the video of Tylee talking about that in her police interview.

MOO

@ 42:00 begins, purse

 

[Shadowtrix]

I think I remember reading in one of the hundreds of pages for this case that if LVD is for some reason unable to keep representing herself, counsel could step in and take over… If that’s true, how much longer do we think she’ll keep this up or do we think she’ll hand over the reigns after one too many objections/admonishments?

 

[Izzylizzy]

I think I remember reading in one of the hundreds of pages for this case that if LVD is for some reason unable to keep representing herself, counsel could step in and take over… If that’s true, how much longer do we think she’ll keep this up or do we think she’ll hand over the reigns after one too many objections/admonishments?

IMO:
Since LVD lacks complete self-awareness I doubt it would be her that would want to stop representing herself.
The judge could though.


snip:

" With the active participation of standby counsel as an advocate, the court can determine whether or not the defendant is meeting the constitutional floor in representation. If he or she is, the right to continue pro se should be respected, even if trained and experienced counsel might predictably do a better job.

If, on the other hand, the court determines the defendant is not effectively representing himself or herself, the integrity of the court proceeding has been compromised and the defendant’s ability to proceed pro se should be revoked. The integrity of the adversarial court proceeding outweighs the autonomy of the defendant to elect to represent himself."

NACDL - From the President: Self-Representation and the Role of Standby Counsel

When the court appoints standby counsel, should the court limit the role of standby counsel to a consultative one, as the court did in the Dylann Roof case?;

www.nacdl.org

 

[lonetraveler]

Perhaps Lolo should be spelled... LowLow. I can't stand her childish voice and looking at her makes me want to . She used Tylee in life, she used her in death, and the low down dirty is still trying to use her... long after Tylee should be at rest, safe in heaven. I hope that evil nutcase never has an ounce of peace. Rant over.

I didn't get to watch yesterday and right now trying to catch up. I agree, it is going to be difficult to listen to her voice.

 

[lonetraveler]

After a long side-bar the judge ruled that Boudreaux can remain in the court room.

Who is Brandon Boudreaux?

Brandon Boudreaux is the ex-husband of Lori Vallow Daybell's niece. Vallow Daybell is accused of conspiring to murder him in October 2019.

ksltv.com

In this case, I feel that Lori's niece, Melani Pawlowski should be a defendant along side of Lori.

 

[Cindizzi]

I think I remember reading in one of the hundreds of pages for this case that if LVD is for some reason unable to keep representing herself, counsel could step in and take over… If that’s true, how much longer do we think she’ll keep this up or do we think she’ll hand over the reigns after one too many objections/admonishments?

I remember in a recent hearing when the Judge granted her Motion to represent herself he told her that if she decided she wanted her Defense counsel to take over, he will allow it .. but only ONCE. He stressed the fact that she can’t change her mind and change it back during Trial.
JMO

 

[rkjester]

I'm not gonna lie. I kinda want to see how the stun belt works.

I'll go back to my corner.

JMO

 

[Izzylizzy]

In this case, I feel that Lori's niece, Melani Pawlowski should be a defendant along side of Lori.

 

[fred&edna]

Perhaps Lolo should be spelled... LowLow. I can't stand her childish voice and looking at her makes me want to . She used Tylee in life, she used her in death, and the low down dirty is still trying to use her... long after Tylee should be at rest, safe in heaven. I hope that evil nutcase never has an ounce of peace. Rant over.

she may have the right to a defense but i think i'm giving up my right to watch her performance... she's a ridiculous spin of stupidity, arrogance and cruelty. imo. lowlow is appropriate... i agree with everything you said.

sorry my posts are difficult to read, my shift key is stuck lol

 

[Diddian]

I remember in a recent hearing when the Judge granted her Motion to represent herself he told her that if she decided she wanted her Defense counsel to take over, he will allow it .. but only ONCE. He stressed the fact that she can’t change her mind and change it back during Trial.
JMO

It’s clear that LVD may have SOME familiarity with procedure and rules of evidence but IMO not nearly enough to effectively represent herself. She was behind in subpoenaing her witnesses, which means she hasn’t interviewed them. So she has no idea what those witnesses are going to represent in court. It appears to me that she has some imagined way that the trial will proceed with “drawing out the truth” that is not consistent with the reality of general rules of evidence and already determined inadmissibility of particular evidence in this case (especially regarding any statements by the two deceased witnesses, Alex Cox and Tylee Ryan).

LVD has already essentially testified without cross examination in her opening statement - punctuating each claim with the beginning phrase, “the evidence will show” to give the claim weight. There is no way that much of what she described as evidence to come will in fact come in UNLESS she actually testifies, opening herself to cross. Although the judge instructs that opening statements are not evidence, and the prosecution will surely remind the jury that is the case, one expects that what LVD said in her opening will remain as a framework in juror’s minds because that narrative is one of the first they learned.

The wide leeway permitted in her opening statement seems to me her best shot at influencing the jury and she might best have served herself by turning her defense over to experienced professionals from that point forward. Even though, by insisting on speedy trial, she has limited their preparation, they could probably be more effective than she will be because at least they can work on the case more hours each day than she is able to.

Yet LVD is charging ahead, sometimes requiring correction, and often encountering sustained objections. She asks the same question multiple times while questioning witnesses and sometimes answers “correct” when they answer, as though SHE is the authority about truth in the court. I’m kind of surprised the prosecution hasn’t objected to her repeatedly responding that way nor has the judge instructed her to refrain from doing it. Maybe they are picking their battles to avoid the appearance of too many.

She may, by representing herself, be hoping to gain the jury’s sympathy - making it appear that she is heavily outweighed by the judge and prosecutor seemingly working in concert with each other against an untrained adversary. Objection, sustained. Objection, sustained. The absence of input from the other two witnesses to CV’s presence at the home the morning he was shot must raise questions in juror’s minds that so far are unanswered, and it is possible the jurors may give some benefit of doubt about the reasoning for that to LVD.