AZ - Lori Vallow Daybell charged w/ conspiring to kill ex-husband Charles Vallow and another relative, Brandon Boudreaux, Chandler, Maricopa County #3

[Nikynoo]

Just responding to @wnk from the last thread: AZ - Lori Vallow Daybell charged w/ conspiring to kill ex-husband Charles Vallow and another relative, Brandon Boudreaux, Chandler, Maricopa County #2

Yes, LDS often get married faster than the general population, but even LDS don't tend to marry someone they met ten days ago on an online dating site. That is decidedly unusual, and a bishop in that circumstance would be asking questions if a couple wanted to get married that fast to make sure, for example, that it was not a decision being made to facilitate lust.

MOO

Didn’t Melanie and Ian get married in Vegas, along with Alex and Zulema ?

 

[Nikynoo]

Didn’t they marry in Vegas and never consulted a Bishop? Pretty sure that’s the case.

That’s my understanding too.

 

[iamshadow21]

Didn’t they marry in Vegas and never consulted a Bishop? Pretty sure that’s the case.

It is the case, we know that they were following their own rules, I'm not contesting that.

I'm just countering the suggestion that because of 'cultural' reasons, nobody LDS would bat an eyelid at marrying someone having only met them ten days ago.

They absolutely would.

MOO

 

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[Izzylizzy]

Adam contends that LVD was normal and sweet growing up and changed later in life. Megan remembers going on a double date with LVD and LVD's boyfriend and how LVD laughed when her [LVD's] boyfriend ran over and killed a cat. Megan's opinion seems to be that LVD has always been an attention-seeking, extremely manipulative narcissist.

Just going back over LVD's chaotic, attention-seeking life, I'm siding more with Megan's opinion.

Here Megan is telling what surrounded Stacy Cox's death and the Cox family being in Hawaii and remaining there when SC entered hospice care and died.
It was MC's parents who arranged the hospice care and IIRC: the funeral.
In the meantime Alex Cox maxed out sister Stacy's credit card.

02:30:50 The story of Stacey’s death02:47:40 Joe Ryan’s death02:52:50 Lori is recorded at a fireside, saying, “I either need to commit murder or go to the temple.”

 

[Izzylizzy]

I wish Lori could face her crimes without bringing up Mormonism. She clearly doesn’t believe mainstream Mormonism and was in the Chad cult for the control power and money. Going through another husband meant nothing to her. She clearly is a monster, not a Christian.

She's most likely praying that preaching the Book of Mormon to the jury just may work with one juror.
When she was pounding Sarena Sharpe with Mormon scripture she did say about herself that it's basically proof that she is a main-stream Mormon.
imo

 

[mickey2942]

She's most likely praying that preaching the Book of Mormon to the jury just may work with one juror.
When she was pounding Sarena Sharpe with Mormon scripture she did say about herself that it's basically proof that she is a main-stream Mormon.
imo

I doubt it. Mainstream LDS think extremists are cray cray. It would have the opposite effect. The fact that LVD is even bringing the Book Of Mormon into any sort of court proceedings, shows how LVD is so out of touch with jurors.

They don't want her religious beliefs. They want to know how any of this relates to proving her innocence in the conspiracy to kill her husband, Charles Vallow.

And none of it relates at all. LVD is not doing anything to help her case.

 

[Love Never Fails]

She's most likely praying that preaching the Book of Mormon to the jury just may work with one juror.
When she was pounding Sarena Sharpe with Mormon scripture she did say about herself that it's basically proof that she is a main-stream Mormon.
imo

Nah, jurors won’t fall for that. Especially a real Mormon.

 

[Love Never Fails]

She's most likely praying that preaching the Book of Mormon to the jury just may work with one juror.
When she was pounding Sarena Sharpe with Mormon scripture she did say about herself that it's basically proof that she is a main-stream Mormon.
imo

I’m just sick of hearing her glorify herself. Jesus won’t share His Glory with anyone.
Of course, she doesn’t even know Him.

 

[wnk]

I wish Lori could face her crimes without bringing up Mormonism. She clearly doesn’t believe mainstream Mormonism and was in the Chad cult for the control power and money. Going through another husband meant nothing to her. She clearly is a monster, not a Christian.

IMO, as long as you still have LDS publishers like Cedar Fort publishing NDE accounts like "Visions of Glory" (there's 18 listed on their website right now) and groups like AVOW promoting themselves within LDS circles and people like Jodi Hildebrandt being recommended as a therapist by LDS Services, then people NEED to be warned of the connections. They NEED to understand that not everything they hear in their ward or by their bishopric or from the organization itself should be blindly accepted.

SO many people stood by while CD and LVD wreaked havoc on their families... people that SHOULD have said something -- and not to their bishop or stake president, who aren't equipped to handle such things. How many people turned a blind eye, because CD & LVD were "temple-worthy" and "devout" and "involved in their church"?

 

[Cindizzi]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1911575681601077345

 

[Megnut]

Live now.

 

[Love Never Fails]

IMO, as long as you still have LDS publishers like Cedar Fort publishing NDE accounts like "Visions of Glory" (there's 18 listed on their website right now) and groups like AVOW promoting themselves within LDS circles and people like Jodi Hildebrandt being recommended as a therapist by LDS Services, then people NEED to be warned of the connections. They NEED to understand that not everything they hear in their ward or by their bishopric or from the organization itself should be blindly accepted.

SO many people stood by while CD and LVD wreaked havoc on their families... people that SHOULD have said something -- and not to their bishop or stake president, who aren't equipped to handle such things. How many people turned a blind eye, because CD & LVD were "temple-worthy" and "devout" and "involved in their church"?

I don’t know. Who is it that should have said anything? Her family wouldn’t even do so. Her friends were nuts like her. Why wouldn’t someone in the church be equipped to talk to her or the police? I sure would if I saw the craziness. As far as the people still writing books, still on podcasts, etc, that makes me feel i would NEVER want to be LDS.
Maybe the people at church didn’t know her or what she was up to. It seems only Charles knew. The family are all fruitcakes. IMO.

 

[Niner]

Monday, April 14th:
*Trial continues (Day 5) (Charles) (@ 10am MST) - AZ – Charles Vallow (62) shot & killed on July 11, 2019 in Chandler, AZ. *Lori Norene Daybell aka Lori Norene Vallow (46 @ time of crime/48/now 51) indicted (6/24/21), charged & arraigned (12/8/23) with 1 count of conspiracy to commit 1st degree murder. Plead not guilty. Held without bond. Maricopa County
AZ – Brandon Boudreaux (34/now 40) attempted murder on Oct. 2, 2019 in Gilbert, AZ. *Lori Norene Vallow (46 @ time of crime/49/now 51) indicted (2/24/22), charged & arraigned (12/7/23) with 1 count of 1st degree premeditated attempted murder. Plead not guilty. Held without bond. Maricopa County
Jury selection [for Charles] began on 3/31/25 & went thru 4/1/25.
Jury consisted of 12 jurors & 4 alternates. [13 men & 3 women]. As of 4/9/25: 12 jurors & 2 alternates. [12 men & 2 women].
Trial [for Brandon Boudreaux]: Judge sets 6/2/25 for start of Boudreux trial. Trial will be Monday thru Friday, the following week [6/9/25] will be Monday thru Thursday & the Judge may be gone for training the following week [6/16/25].
Trial began on 4/7/25. [thru 5/15/25] [State wants 4/24/25 as half day]. @10:30am to 4:30pm. On 4/14 & 4/15 court starts @ 10am.
NO Court on Fridays or 4/28 or 4/29/25.
Judge Justin Beresky presiding. State’s attorney Ryan Green. DA Treena Jeanelle Kay. Vallow-Daybell Pro Se with advisory Defense attorneys Gerald Bradley & Denae Suchy.
Case info from 2/24/22 thru 3/27/25 & Jury selection Days 1-2 (3/31 & 4/1/25) & 4/4/25 & Trial Day 1-3 (4/7-4/9/25) reference post #634 here:
https://websleuths.com/threads/az-l...aux-chandler-maricopa-county-2.739249/page-32
4/10/25 Thursday, Trial Day 4: *Judge Beresky changed the start time for Monday, 4/14 & Tuesday, 4/15 to 10am.
State witnesses: Adam Cox, Lori’s bro. Sarena Sharp [LDS member]. Retired Chandler Police Detective William McDonald. Marrisa Francisco. She works for the Chandler Police Dept. Forensic scientist. Kay Woodcock, Charles' sister. Trial continues on Monday, 4/14/25.
ID – Vallow found guilty of all charges & sentenced to 3 consecutive life sentences without parole on 7/31/23.

 

[Cindizzi]

 

[Cindizzi]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1911788966652887460

 

[Cindizzi]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1911788595238912036

 

[Izzylizzy]

Quite the read on studies done on a juror's religion and defendants.
So far in the Idaho trial's convictions of both LVD & CD where the community is largely LDS it didn't sway any jurors towards leniency.
imo

"Identification of Circumstances under which Religion Affects Each Stage of the Trial Process"

https://dev.cjcenter.org/_files/apcj/4_1_Miller_et_al.pdf

 

[Tricia]

Good morning,
Remember scroll to the top of the thread and the stream for the trial is right there. No need to leave Websleuths to watch the trial.

 

[Izzylizzy]

It is the case, we know that they were following their own rules, I'm not contesting that.

I'm just countering the suggestion that because of 'cultural' reasons, nobody LDS would bat an eyelid at marrying someone having only met them ten days ago.

They absolutely would.

MOO

BBM:

IIRC:

If the couple met only 10 days ago or recently and if they went to a church leader wanting to marry in the Temple the concern would be they want to marry so quickly due to lust.
That was also applied to a church leader officiating in a civil marriage ceremony.

imo