AZ - Lori Vallow Daybell charged w/ conspiring to kill ex-husband Charles Vallow and another relative, Brandon Boudreaux, Chandler, Maricopa County #3

[Izzylizzy]

All of her, questions of "Did you ask...?" must be vexing to the jury that she and the prosecution are not asking Tylee or JJ. As LVD has already said that Alex is dead, no one would expect his words.

CV entered a home for a pick up with no weapons and was met with two: a bat and a gun.

I can't wait for her to never be seen by the public again. She is so evil.

I listened again to most of AC's LE interview and he said to Det. Alexander that he "thinks" he got hit with the bat or something.
I never heard that during the trial but may have missed it.
I will look for the timestamp

 

[nodamselindistress]

Closing arguments on Monday is just perfect for those of us following the Karen Read case that begins on Tuesday. I had been worried about missing some of either trial but turns out not be cause for concern, yay

 

[Izzylizzy]

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Look at AC's sandals.

 

[Tortoise]

"The evidence will show" X 1,000

Thank you.

So if she doesn't mount a defense, these things she stated in her opening statement can't be raised in her closing argument -

1. Charles had insured her for $2 million
2. They had a happy marriage for 13 years
3. Charles was a left-handed pitcher but a right-handed batter
4. Tylee and Charles had to seek out a family therapist in 2017 to stop them fighting
5. The arguing between Charles and Tylee increased to physical in Feb, May and June 2019, and captured on video in March 2019.
6. Charles went to hit Tylee with the bat.
7. Charles had left JJ in the car with the engine running.
8. In June and July Charles began sending threatening texts to Lori. Seen by Summer.
9. Lori and Tylee were told by police outside the house that Charles had died.

 

[Myvice]

I haven't been able to follow this trial very closely but I think I saw or heard that LVD was giving CV JJ's meds. Did I misunderstand that or does anyone know where I can read more on that? TIA

 

[Megnut]

Thank you.

So if she doesn't mount a defense, these things she stated in her opening statement can't be raised in her closing argument -

1. Charles had insured her for $2 million
2. They had a happy marriage for 13 years
3. Charles was a left-handed pitcher but a right-handed batter
4. Tylee and Charles had to seek out a family therapist in 2017 to stop them fighting
5. The arguing between Charles and Tylee increased to physical in Feb, May and June 2019, and captured on video in March 2019.
6. Charles went to hit Tylee with the bat.
7. Charles had left JJ in the car with the engine running.
8. In June and July Charles began sending threatening texts to Lori. Seen by Summer.
9. Lori and Tylee were told by police outside the house that Charles had died.

Can't help but to wonder if LVD sent threatening messages to herself from an account CV forgot he even had, but then, it was likely a complete falsehood.

Besides wanting to save his marriage and believing LVD was fixable (she's not), it's clear that he was deeply invested in the children and their well-being.

That he would raise a bat to T, find me another prison who thinks that's even kind of credible. CD doesn't count.

CV was trying to shield the children from LVD, he had no way to know how deadly she was willing to go.

JMO

 

[Tortoise]

Can't help but to wonder if LVD sent threatening messages to herself from an account CV forgot he even had, but then, it was likely a complete falsehood.

Besides wanting to save his marriage and believing LVD was fixable (she's not), it's clear that he was deeply invested in the children and their well-being.

That he would raise a bat to T, find me another prison who thinks that's even kind of credible. CD doesn't count.

CV was trying to shield the children from LVD, he had no way to know how deadly she was willing to go.

JMO

I am very surprised that she's not calling Summer.

 

[Megnut]

If CV and AlexC were on the floor, in a life and death battle over the bat, how did anyone manage to hit the other one -- and in the back of the head, no less?

I would have liked for LVD and AlexC to be held to account on their improbable narratives. Show us, LVD, how CV chased you but didn't get off a single hit? Didn't break a mirror, overturn a chair? And all that time, no one said anything?

So. Not. Believable.

JMO

 

[Nikynoo]

But would the jury take her word, without any evidence either of DV (no prior police involvement, no documentation of physical inquiry to her, no witnesses testifying she was afraid of him, no texts indicating that she was afraid of him, her instigative behavior that morning, etc) AND no evidence that her $2mil policy actually even existed?

Of course, she could give testimony to this effect - the prosecution would make her prove it. I gather any 'threatening messages' would be on Charles's phone and LE have done the download of that, so they could be admitted as evidence (if they exist). In respect to the insurance policy, it Lori has not disclosed it to the prosecution as evidence, then that cannot be disclosed.

I wonder whether we could have a poll on whether Lori will change her mind and testify next week?

 

[Izzylizzy]

Say wha?

AC said he doesn't know and he "assumed" CV hit him in the back of the head with the bat.
Was this brought out at trial?

@1:48:10

 

[justme11]

Edited to add: He was friends with Charles and has such nice things to say about him. He has gobs of info and is talkative.

I'm not sure if this has been posted or not. It's Charles' landlord calling an officer. (I missed his name.) He talks about the pool party and talking to Lori, who had zero emotion. It's pretty interesting!

 

[Izzylizzy]

Nate said this morning that if LVD is found guilty the judge could hold off on the sentencing and sentence her after Brandon Boudreaux trial.
???

 

[lonetraveler]

Closing arguments on Monday is just perfect for those of us following the Karen Read case that begins on Tuesday. I had been worried about missing some of either trial but turns out not be cause for concern, yay

I have been known to watch one trial on TV and another one on my computer at the same time

 

[Smelly Squirrel]

LOL at LVD objecting to the relevancy of this witness's testimony.

I like how yesterday the judge wouldn't even say "overruled" to her objections, he would just dismissively say "the exhibit is admitted."

 

[Smelly Squirrel]

They will be in court today starting at 10:45 am for doing jury instructions. Still a 30 minute delay I assume.

 

[Nikynoo]

Hopefully, I won’t get told off for posting this. It made me

 

[Smelly Squirrel]

Did anyone hear LVD say to a detective, I think yesterday "are you aware that JJ had autism"?

Yeah, it was to CY right here.

 

[Smelly Squirrel]

i was again disappointed in the Judge. Once she said she wasn’t presenting witnesses nor testifying, I agree with the prosecutor that the jury should have been brought back for LVD to rest her case in front of them. Judge wanted to do closing arguments tomorrow - can’t figure out how he went from that to if you change your mind before Monday let me know. What?

To be fair, the state asked to wait till Monday for arguments anyway.

 

[Smelly Squirrel]

Saddening and maddening both.

Starting with the 911 call, even before they knew there was a 47 minute delay.

"There's a....I got in a fight with my BIL and I shot him in self-defense."

"There's blood, he's not moving."

How long ago did this happen? "A few minutes."

But he leads with "it was self-defense". Transparent much?

No shock? No panic? No, "I didn't mean for it to escalate", no "he was chasing us with a baseball bat". No "omgomgomg I can't believe I shot him." No, "I was just trying to protect T or LVD." (In fact no mention that anyone else had even been there.) And no, "please hurry, omg, please hurry ."Just a nice, calm, nonchalant "it was self-defense". Alrighty then.

How about we let LE be the judge of that. If only it had been investigated from the start.

The 911 call

I wish they would have admitted the call, it's so incriminating by itself.

 

[Smelly Squirrel]

I haven't been able to follow this trial very closely but I think I saw or heard that LVD was giving CV JJ's meds. Did I misunderstand that or does anyone know where I can read more on that? TIA

Yes, Christina Atwood testified that LVD told her that. She was so disturbed by it that she told LVD if anything happens to CV she would go to police.