I can't understand why the jurors are allowed to have their phones. Call me shifty, or just weak, but I would have googled "Lori Vallow Daybell" long ago and found out how her children died. But I don't think they're sequestered (?), so they could do it at home anyway.
You’re not an outlier. I would go further in that I believe she killed them both and that Alex was used to move the bodies to Chads. I also believe that Lori shot Charles.I don't know if I'm an outlier, but I fully believe that Lori was hands on in killing both her children. Yes, I think Alex was the muscle, but I think Lori watched it happen, maybe even performed a killing action, like stabbing Tylee, like taping the bag on JJ's head as Alex restrained him. I see so much rage in the deaths of both children. Her rage.
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LVD was poison for Kay but when it’s all over I am sure Kay will blast Chandler PF, as we have all done. Hopefully, most of them learned a lesson. Not quite sure CY did though.I've yet to hear anything from the LE team that did the original interviews with the 3 and their conclusion of it being self-defense when their S.D.case blew wide open when TR and JR were reported missing.
All I read said by LE was that the original (self-defense) case was ongoing.
Hearing Key today with CY it appears to me that she's gently pointing out to CY what we now know evidence proves otherwise what LVD had told her and Kay chose her poison to be LVD and not CY's incompetent interview.
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IMO Lori and Chad made Alex pull the trigger or smother the victims, but they were right there and actively assisted. To them, technically Alex did it. In the end he realized he was their fall guy.You’re not an outlier. I would go further in that I believe she killed them both and that Alex was used to move the bodies to Chads. I also believe that Lori shot Charles.
I noticed that too. I bet the jury did.As I think about LVD's questions for the medical examiner today, she kept asking questions so clinically, which is why I almost didn't realize it was LVD.
She is really enjoying her "Perry Mason" moment. To her own determinant. She was coldly asking in detail about the bullet wounds on Charles Vallow. Not a hint of sadness, or caring. She was married to him, and acted like she was just enjoying her questions for the ME.
That resonated with me today. Only a stone cold psychopath could talk about entry and exit wounds on "the body", for God sakes, you were married to the man! Show some emotions!!! None. Except her smirk and twirl, feeling like she was an awesome attorney.
So many people are not into crime news or any news. I would guess most people never heard of this case.Seriously, you would have to have been living under a rock to not have heard about LVD and Charles Vallow. No Media, no internet, no tv.
I so much wanted him to respond “My job is not to determine who collects benefits. My job is to investigate people like you who continue to collect benefits after their child is murdered.”I couldn't fathom what point LVD was trying to get to with the SS agent when she kept harping on if there were 2 women collecting SS benefits from the deceased husband.
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I agree on the kids and have often wondered if LVD didn’t fire at least one of those shots when CV was killed. At first I thought perhaps AC fired the first and LVD then took the gun and fired the 2nd and then ran out of the house and got in the car and realized she didn’t have her purse and sent Tylee back for it and then drove away. (Part of why I thought that was her comment to ZP after AC failed to kill BB that he couldn’t do anything right - suggesting to me she would have to step in again or something - and also the fight that was overheard between LVD & AC where she was screeching at him in the street about how he had disgraced the family.) But I think I’m leaning now more towards her firing the first shot. I think I recall her saying at one point she stepped into AC’s room while AC & CV were fighting. It would make more sense to me that she is the one who retrieved the gun at that time then it does for AC to stop in the middle of a scuffle with CV and go get the gun. I think she stepped out of ACs room with the gun - having already sent Tylee to the car with JJ - and shot CV and handed the gun to AC and ran out the door. And that AC fired the 2nd shot shortly after they drove away. That would explain why Tylee only heard one shot and it was so close to the time that LVD came out that she couldn’t be sure whether LVD was still inside the house when she heard it or not. Either way, I think she was more of a participant in all of it than just a conspirator - but I don’t think there is any way to actually it.You’re not an outlier. I would go further in that I believe she killed them both and that Alex was used to move the bodies to Chads. I also believe that Lori shot Charles.
Is it over yet? I have tried to watch a little every day but I cannot handle listening to that woman drone on and on about irrelevant things while pretending each one is some sort of Matlock moment.![]()
Perhaps the gun was already in the kitchen, awaiting Charles arrival? I am in agreement with your scenario.I agree on the kids and have often wondered if LVD didn’t fire at least one of those shots when CV was killed. At first I thought perhaps AC fired the first and LVD then took the gun and fired the 2nd and then ran out of the house and got in the car and realized she didn’t have her purse and sent Tylee back for it and then drove away. (Part of why I thought that was her comment to ZP after AC failed to kill BB that he couldn’t do anything right - suggesting to me she would have to step in again or something - and also the fight that was overheard between LVD & AC where she was screeching at him in the street about how he had disgraced the family.) But I think I’m leaning now more towards her firing the first shot. I think I recall her saying at one point she stepped into AC’s room while AC & CV were fighting. It would make more sense to me that she is the one who retrieved the gun at that time then it does for AC to stop in the middle of a scuffle with CV and go get the gun. I think she stepped out of ACs room with the gun - having already sent Tylee to the car with JJ - and shot CV and handed the gun to AC and ran out the door. And that AC fired the 2nd shot shortly after they drove away. That would explain why Tylee only heard one shot and it was so close to the time that LVD came out that she couldn’t be sure whether LVD was still inside the house when she heard it or not. Either way, I think she was more of a participant in all of it than just a conspirator - but I don’t think there is any way to actually it.
Justin Lum has Charles Vallow former lawyer on talking about how Charles said his password was hacked. Go to about -1:12 ish.