I think Alex took the first shot. Charles wasn’t dying fast enough. I think Lori took the second shot, laughing all the while. I could see her laughing then telling Alex to stay until he died and then call police.
My theory is that this is an element of poor scene staging. I can imagine Lori thinking the interpretation would be that she always takes her shoes off in the house and she was so scared by the "conflict" she didn't have time to put her shoes on before fleeing. I think I'd make sure to snag my shoes if I was trying to run out onto the hot concrete quickly to elude someone.
Are there any area videos showing what time LVD left the house with TR and JJ?
I've also suspected that Lori may have shot at least one of the shots at Charles and have wondered whether GSR tests were conducted on her. At the same time, I have to take into consideration that the gun was a 45 caliber which is a hefty gun.
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There's a great, detailed timeline HERE in the Media, Maps, Timeline subforum that shows all the contradicting accounts of that morning. It doesn't include the Burger King or Walgreens timestamps, though. I pulled that from the probable cause document HERE.
Interesting that Alex calls 911 at 8:32 am. When LVD was interviewed by Detective Ynclan, LVD told her that she had told CV not to get JJ to the school too early because the school opened the gates at 8:20 am. (Edited to correct time from the interview.)
Yesterday Prosecutor Kay asked detective CY if tests were done on AC and LVD and she answered "no" because AC already said he was the one who shot CV with the gun.I've also suspected that Lori may have shot at least one of the shots at Charles and have wondered whether GSR tests were conducted on her. At the same time, I have to take into consideration that the gun was a 45 caliber which is a hefty gun.
My experience shooting guns is limited - 22 rifle and shot guns when young and taking gun safety classes and preparing for bird hunting with my dad, and handgun safety and shooting classes as an adult woman. In the handgun classes, we had the opportunity to shoot various handguns to gain familiarity with how each felt. I'd expect that Lori would have no problem shooting a 9mm, just as I had no problem doing so. But I recall that a 45 caliber handgun was quite a bit heavier to hold so made it more difficult to maintain aim and it had quite a kick.
According to this, a 9 mm semiautomatic handgun typically weighs 17-25 ounces and a full-size 45 caliber weighs 30-40 ounces, and the magazine loaded with ammunition adds further weight, with 45 caliber bullets weighing more than 9 mm:
How Much Does A Handgun Weigh With Examples
In a realm where precision, power, and personal safety intertwine, there exists a crucial element that demands our attention: the weight of a handgun. As we
I'd like to know more about the size and weight of Alex's fully-loaded 45 caliber handgun and about Lori's experience with handguns and whether she had much experience shooting that large a caliber before.
Thank you - I was watching that testimony but had a few interruptions and I missed that.
Just have to wonder if she realizes how bad this sounds? She doesn't appear embarassed at her shoddy work at all. I sure do hope there have been policy changes in Chandler AZ!!
I was amazed at CY's "lackadaisical" attitude in answering the questions by Kay that proved her incompetence.
I can’t speak to LVD’s shooting experience but can tell you from my own experience that she would probably not have a problem with the size or weight of a gun for a single short range shot. I’m a 60+ woman and have several handguns - revolvers & semi-automatics - the weight of the weapon is not a factor for me unless I am target shooting many rounds and then after a few with the heavier weapons my hands and arms do become fatigued. But I’m also a better shot with the heavier handguns than I am with the lighter ones when shooting only a few rounds. And keep in mind at that range LVD would not have had to actually aim and fire but only to point and shoot.I've also suspected that Lori may have shot at least one of the shots at Charles and have wondered whether GSR tests were conducted on her. At the same time, I have to take into consideration that the gun was a 45 caliber which is a hefty gun.
My experience shooting guns is limited - 22 rifle and shot guns when young and taking gun safety classes and preparing for bird hunting with my dad, and handgun safety and shooting classes as an adult woman. In the handgun classes, we had the opportunity to shoot various handguns to gain familiarity with how each felt. I'd expect that Lori would have no problem shooting a 9mm, just as I had no problem doing so. But I recall that a 45 caliber handgun was quite a bit heavier to hold so made it more difficult to maintain aim and it had quite a kick.
According to this, a 9 mm semiautomatic handgun typically weighs 17-25 ounces and a full-size 45 caliber weighs 30-40 ounces, and the magazine loaded with ammunition adds further weight, with 45 caliber bullets weighing more than 9 mm:
How Much Does A Handgun Weigh With Examples
In a realm where precision, power, and personal safety intertwine, there exists a crucial element that demands our attention: the weight of a handgun. As we
I'd like to know more about the size and weight of Alex's fully-loaded 45 caliber handgun and about Lori's experience with handguns and whether she had much experience shooting that large a caliber before.
Adding insult to injury CY had been in homicide for years before she interviewed LVD.
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I don’t know that. I am sure there is a timeline from their phone records. Surely LE has all that.
