AZ - Lori Vallow Daybell charged w/ conspiring to kill ex-husband Charles Vallow and another relative, Brandon Boudreaux, Chandler, Maricopa County #4

[Smelly Squirrel]

Jekyll and Hyde. Imagine your mother turning into a monster in front of you. She told Audrey B that she could get into a headspace where she was capable of murder.

Yeah, that was very chilling testimony. It tends to suggest LVD was happily present for some of the murders.

If you haven't heard it, it comes at the very end of Audrey's testimony. I've cued it up here.

 

[lonetraveler]

I really do hope they hold the Bourdeaux trial because I think it will be an easy one, they have a very strong case. Here's a police report with some of the evidence. They have a traffic cam photo of the jeep en route, Alex's burner phone data at the scene, and they have video of LVD at a storage unit storing the spare wheel taken off the jeep. There is much more than that.

Here's a police report about it.

Can someone remind me if the
Bourdeaux shooting happened after Charles was murdered or before Charles was murdered?

 

[Love Never Fails]

Great point @MySharoanah, I can understand why Lori's prior bad acts were way too prejudicial to reveal, but if your scenario happened, I would be so upset that this information was kept from me.

Oh i could forgive myself but not the prosecution.

 

[Izzylizzy]

Your original post still made sense to me.

I’d think parents and grandparents would see some of the contradictions - the wiping of tears when talking about Tylee’s alleged part in the encounter and the exaggerated claims to having to care for five kids once widowed against the nonchalance of driving away with the two kids, CV’s phone in hand, hitting the drive-up window for greasy chicken fries and Sprite for breakfast, making a quick stop at Walgreen’s to get some leopard-spot flip-flops for herself and some ugly neon-green ones for Tylee, a couple quick time-outs from all that nurturing-mothering to take AC’s calls, dropping off JJ without mention to the school staff of the horror he’d just been in the vicinity of and would surely find devastating later, and then returning to the scene to flip her hair at the officer while chatting about new neighbors, her daughter standing nearby without so much as an arm around her shoulders.

Thank you and in addition when LVD asked IIRC: a detective "are you aware that JJ HAD autism?

I'm curious the drop-off procedure at the school.
I going to assume that due to JJ's challenges he wasn't left on his own to get out of the car and walk in?
Though there could have been someone greeting the kids.
Did anyone at the school have an encounter with LVD that morning?

 

[Love Never Fails]

And all she cared about is how much she assumed they talked about her.

 JMO

I believe that and the evidence will convict her. She murdered Charles for money and she wanted Chad but yet she was angry her dead husband had talked to another, prettier female the night before? SMH

 

[Kavya01]

Can someone remind me if the
Bourdeaux shooting happened after Charles was murdered or before Charles was murdered?

After. That was in October. Because she couldn't get her hands on Charles' life insurance suddenly, she was hoping she could get her niece's ex husband Brandon's Life Insurance money instead, via manipulating her niece. It's a whole new level of depraved evil, IMO.

 

[Izzylizzy]

Can someone remind me if the
Bourdeaux shooting happened after Charles was murdered or before Charles was murdered?

After.
Charles was killed in July and Brandon was targeted Oct 2.

 

[Love Never Fails]

Thank you and in addition when LVD asked IIRC: a detective "are you aware that JJ HAD autism?

I'm curious the drop-off procedure at the school.
I going to assume that due to JJ's challenges he wasn't left on his own to get out of the car and walk in?
Though there could have been someone greeting the kids.
Did anyone at the school have an encounter with LVD that morning?

Yeah, it wasn’t “are you aware my son, JJ, HAS autism?”
Just that JJ HAD autism.

 

[Love Never Fails]

After. That was in October. Because she couldn't get her hands on Charles' life insurance suddenly, she was hoping she could get her niece's ex husband Brandon's Life Insurance money instead, via manipulating her niece. It's a whole new level of depraved evil, IMO.

I blame Melanie for that also. I don’t know why she is walking around. Don’t know why her husband is still with her.

 

[indicolite22]

Oh i could forgive myself but not the prosecution.

But isn't it the law that bad acts that happened later can't come in? Nothing the prosecution could do about it.

 

[indicolite22]

I believe that and the evidence will convict her. She murdered Charles for money and she wanted Chad but yet she was angry her dead husband had talked to another, prettier female the night before? SMH

She also tried to get in that Charles sent $1k to a different woman. She probably resented that Charles was spending money on other women.

 

[Love Never Fails]

Your original post still made sense to me.

I’d think parents and grandparents would see some of the contradictions - the wiping of tears when talking about Tylee’s alleged part in the encounter and the exaggerated claims to having to care for five kids once widowed against the nonchalance of driving away with the two kids, CV’s phone in hand, hitting the drive-up window for greasy chicken fries and Sprite for breakfast, making a quick stop at Walgreen’s to get some leopard-spot flip-flops for herself and some ugly neon-green ones for Tylee, a couple quick time-outs from all that nurturing-mothering to take AC’s calls, dropping off JJ without mention to the school staff of the horror he’d just been in the vicinity of and would surely find devastating later, and then returning to the scene to flip her hair at the officer while chatting about new neighbors, her daughter standing nearby without so much as an arm around her shoulders.

An awful, awful picture of that in my mind. Wish we could line up to slap her really hard. I’m sure her “celestial” body would feel it, right? Maybe she would know she isn’t really elevated. I’ve been hoping some gal in Idaho would give her a taste of a good beating. That’s not my nature but she makes me feel that way.

 

[Love Never Fails]

Did they start at 10:30? Maybe at lunch now. Should be noon there. I hope there isn’t a hold out. If so i would think it would be a woman, not a man.

 

[TigerLou]

She also tried to get in that Charles sent $1k to a different woman. She probably resented that Charles was spending money on other women.

I love that that drove her crazy!

 

[indicolite22]

Did they start at 10:30? Maybe at lunch now. Should be noon there. I hope there isn’t a hold out. If so i would think it would be a woman, not a man.

Justin Lum just confirmed that the jury is taking a lunch break.

 

[Warwick7]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1914755973643948041

 

[Kavya01]

Hoping they have all their ducks in a row and just wanted lunch before going home!!!

 

[Izzylizzy]

I really do hope they hold the Bourdeaux trial because I think it will be an easy one, they have a very strong case. Here's a police report with some of the evidence. They have a traffic cam photo of the jeep en route, Alex's burner phone data at the scene, and they have video of LVD at a storage unit storing the spare wheel taken off the jeep. There is much more than that.

Here's a police report about it.

Will LVD & CD's little soldiers be testifing?

The Toxic Three
Melani?
Gibb?
Zulema?

 

[lonetraveler]

After. That was in October. Because she couldn't get her hands on Charles' life insurance suddenly, she was hoping she could get her niece's ex husband Brandon's Life Insurance money instead, via manipulating her niece. It's a whole new level of depraved evil, IMO.

That's a good thing. Now Charles' murder can be discussed in Boudreaux' trial, right?

 

[TigerLou]

That's a good thing. Now Charles' murder can be discussed in Boudreaux' trial, right?

That's my assumption. They can bring in her prior acts which include all the prior murders, right? Was TD before or after that? Regardless the kids and Charles for sure.