AZ - Lori Vallow Daybell charged w/ conspiring to kill ex-husband Charles Vallow and another relative, Brandon Boudreaux, Chandler, Maricopa County #4

[I am not Sherlock H.]

So they came prepared and LVD made sure they can't be heard. At least not today.

Jmo

Unfortunate, but there is the courthouse steps?

So glad the jurors reviewed and arrived at this verdict. RIP Mr. Vallow. MOO

 

[Izzylizzy]

How come LVD wasn't standing when the verdict was read?

 

[Tricia]

If you go to this video from Fox in Phoenix. Go to 6:00:28 He said something weird. He said he had never heard of Lori Daybell until today. Then he said something along the lines of "I was driving home LAST NIGHT and was thinking she has 3 life sentences". I wonder if they voted guilty last night and then he went home and looked up Lori Daybell. Or he could have meant he was driving home for lunch. I don't know it is just strange. Also he said he was on the fence until yesterday.

 

[Cindizzi]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1914835596331377151

 

[kaen]

I don't think the stipulating was of any real consequence at all, because all that was on the table was stuff that was OBVIOUS, making a hearing on it completely pointless.

ITEM 1 - Was there an accomplice involved? Given that she was found guilty of "conspiracy," that was a given.
ITEM 2 - Did her crime do harm of some sort to the family of CV? Given that she killed him and they had testified against her, again, nothing to really decide here.

Knowing that, I think LVD stipulating wasn't about Kay and others getting a chance to speak or not, but rather that there would have been no way for her to win by such a hearing. She wouldn't have said anything, just listen. The outcome was already certain. Being a complete narcissist, what could she gain by forcing other people to say bad things about her? So she said, "No thanks, let's just go on" which was her right.

It's great this was all put to bed, with her found GUILTY to the max, and nothing left for the jurors to have to bother with.

By stipulating, she has hampered her ability to appeal (not that I care). But, secondarily, she has in fact admitted her guilt after saying she was not guilty.

I agree that it was her narcissism that led her. Happy that it is one more down and the jury didn't have to do any more work but I do want for this murdress to not be able to get any advantage because she could claim ignorance. Thank goodness the judge made her confer with her team.

 

[Cindizzi]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1914815156216906196

 

[Gigiky]

Don't go away mad LORI, just go away...FOR LIFE!!!!!!

 

[kaen]

Don't go away mad LORI, just go away...FOR LIFE!!!!!!

Part of me just wishes she would plead guilty and not waste any more of the state's money.

 

[Megnut]

If you go to this video from Fox in Phoenix and toward the end with the juror with the white hair. Right now the time stamp is around -47:00ish I can't give you exact time stamp because the video is still live and the time stamp keeps changing. He said something weird. He said he had never heard of Lori Daybell until today. Then he said something along the lines of "I was driving home LAST NIGHT and was thinking she has 3 life sentences". I wonder if they voted guilty last night and then he went home and looked up Lori Daybell. Or he could have meant he was driving home for lunch. I don't know it is just strange. Also he said he was on the fence until yesterday.

I listened three times.

He hadn't heard of LVD before being selected for jury.

But the other part? He said when he was driving home last night he was thinking she's spending the next three lifes [sic] in a cell.

Is this the kind of thing that can throw a verdict?

Ugh

 

[Megnut]

Part of me just wishes she would plead guilty and not waste any more of the state's money.

She won't.

Pass up an opportunity to hold court? Nope, not going to happen.

What's her next defense going to be? How calm she is?

Calm, calculated, conniving....

Jmo

 

[Izzylizzy]

Part of me just wishes she would plead guilty and not waste any more of the state's money.

On the surface I totally agree yet would only want her to plead guilty that it's what Brandon Boudraux wants.

 

[Diddian]

If you go to this video from Fox in Phoenix and toward the end with the juror with the white hair. Right now the time stamp is around -47:00ish I can't give you exact time stamp because the video is still live and the time stamp keeps changing. He said something weird. He said he had never heard of Lori Daybell until today. Then he said something along the lines of "I was driving home LAST NIGHT and was thinking she has 3 life sentences". I wonder if they voted guilty last night and then he went home and looked up Lori Daybell. Or he could have meant he was driving home for lunch. I don't know it is just strange. Also he said he was on the fence until yesterday.

He definitely said - after saying that he'd never heard of Lori Daybell until this trial - that while driving home last night, he thought, "Whoa, she'll be serving the next 3 lives in prison..." And you could hear a couple people around him reacting to what he said.

It did not sound like he learned about the other 3 deaths immediately before that interview (and after the guilty verdict).

I hope he misspoke.

But it seems like the judge needs to get a copy of that video interview and he needs to have this juror in his office to question him about what he said.

 

[Megnut]

He definitely said - after saying that he'd never heard of Lori Daybell until this trial - that while driving home last night, he thought, "Whoa, she'll be serving the next 3 lives in prison..." And you could hear a couple people around him reacting to what he said.

It did not sound like he learned about the other 3 deaths immediately before that interview (and after the guilty verdict).

I hope he misspoke.

But it seems like the judge needs to get a copy of that video interview and he needs to have this juror in his office to question him about what he said.

Because where did he learn that? In the jury room?

 

[Diddian]

Because where did he learn that? In the jury room?

Good question. That could mean juror misconduct involving multiple jurors.

 

[Diddian]

Because where did he learn that? In the jury room?

And here's what is worse. He said he was on the fence yesterday.

So, if some other juror shared that information or if he googled it or otherwise learned of it, then it could be argued that it influenced his vote for the verdict.

 

[Love Never Fails]

Good question. That could mean juror misconduct involving multiple jurors.

He could have heard a person in the hallway at the courthouse as he was leaving last
night or in the parking lot. Doesn’t mean he told anyone until after today. And it doesn’t make a difference. She IS gonna serve three life sentences. I’m hoping this is the end of it.

 

[Izzylizzy]

He definitely said - after saying that he'd never heard of Lori Daybell until this trial - that while driving home last night, he thought, "Whoa, she'll be serving the next 3 lives in prison..." And you could hear a couple people around him reacting to what he said.

It did not sound like he learned about the other 3 deaths immediately before that interview (and after the guilty verdict).

I hope he misspoke.

But it seems like the judge needs to get a copy of that video interview and he needs to have this juror in his office to question him about what he said.

This has happened in quite a few cases with jurors in high profile cases and in the end the guilty verdict held.
What concerns me about this guy is he was undecided so when and where did he hear about her 3 life sentences yesterday?

 

[Diddian]

He could have heard a person in the hallway at the courthouse as he was leaving last
night or in the parking lot. Doesn’t mean he told anyone until after today. And it doesn’t make a difference. She IS gonna serve three life sentences. I’m hoping this is the end of it.

If he heard it in the hallway at the courthouse or in the parking lot as he was leaving last night, he is obligated to inform the judge. And the judge would then question him (to see what he learned and to determine whether he shared that information with other jurors) and make the determination whether he needs to dismiss that juror who has been contaminated with information and appoint an alternate.

 

[Izzylizzy]

And here's what is worse. He said he was on the fence yesterday.

So, if some other juror shared that information or if he googled it or otherwise learned of it, then it could be argued that it influenced his vote for the verdict.

He was very clear though that it was 2 texts that finalized his guilty vote.
Nephi and the insurance.

 

[justtrish]

RE this juror saying she'd be serving her next 3 lives.. maybe he was referring to her speaking about past lives she had and all that odd crap her and Chad believed.

Not 3 life sentences, but more like a joke about her saying she's lived in past life as other people.. so she'd be serving her next 3 lives in prison.