AZ - Lori Vallow Daybell charged w/ conspiring to kill ex-husband Charles Vallow and another relative, Brandon Boudreaux, Chandler, Maricopa County #4

[Smelly Squirrel]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1914326329560031381

 

[Nikynoo]

IIRC:
During CD's trial the state entered a few of ZP's notes/drawings which included a list she made of the light and dark ones that CD gave to LVD and she passed it on to her girl groupies.
CD' s children were all light,JJ was on his way to being a Zombie and I'm not sure about TR but know she was not said to be of the light.
I didn't watch either of their trials and it's now that I'm backtracking a bit on the history of all these people who enabled LVD and CD.

This is from Justin Lims FB 1 May 2020.

 

[Wishbone]

Lori Vallow Daybell.....This doomsday case has to be one the most disturbingly diabolical murder cases I have ever followed. Putting the three major culprits aside, I can't believe the way her family protected her and in their total ignorance enabled more murders, the way CV and family were ignored or the way AZ law enforcement handled the case in such a lazy inept manner initially ignoring many waving red flags. The entire murder spree has been unbelievable and I so want it to be OVER but it just keeps on keeping on and the she devil just keeps on reveling in the limelight.....JMOO

 

[Jolynna]

According to Nate Eaton, LVD said, "the evidence will show" 70 times in her opening statement.

The amount of evidence LVD has shown so far? NONE.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1913624531757125750

 

[Cindizzi]

Screenshot for those who can’t view Tweets.

FYI side note- I may not be able to be on here today. < sigh >. Hate to not see it in real time, but will catch up on posting when I can!


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[Campizi67]

Just thinking.....I believe LVD's family, including her parents and some siblings, followed her lead and avoided crossing her because her husband made a lot of money, and the family was well aware of it. In families where one member has access to significant financial resources, they often gain respect and influence, regardless of their actions or mental state. It seems like the perception of money tied to LVD gave her undue control and sway within the family, no matter how concerning her behavior was.

Other than this, I can’t figure out why some family members turned a blind eye to her actions.

 

[Megnut]

"The evidence will show she's the only one charged in this case...."

Who else does she think should be? AlexC is dead. T is dead.

Watching her go after Detective Duncan for not investigating the death more thoroughly was fascinating. We're all thinking it, but honestly it just would have exposed the conspiracy sooner.

If CV's death was just an unfortunate 'family tragedy', what were those 47 minutes for?

I think a better way to say it is that LVD herself is a family tragedy, the source and summit of needless drama, including multiple murders.

JMO

 

[Megnut]

LVD probably does so well in prison because she's primed for a cult following. Dark leadership. Twisted charisma.

Whatever social power/prowess she might have, she could have chosen to use it for good.

She chose evil.

JMO

 

[aafromaa]

Hopefully Treena Ray keeps driving home to the jury LVD's "callous indifference" to the death of CV and calls it just that.

I don’t think it was callous indifference. I think she showed callous delight at his death

 

[Diddian]

"The evidence will show she's the only one charged in this case...."

Who else does she think should be? AlexC is dead. T is dead.

Watching her go after Detective Duncan for not investigating the death more thoroughly was fascinating. We're all thinking it, but honestly it just would have exposed the conspiracy sooner.

If CV's death was just an unfortunate 'family tragedy', what were those 47 minutes for?

I think a better way to say it is that LVD herself is a family tragedy, the source and summit of needless drama, including multiple murders.

JMO

Being fully aware of all parties involved, and serving a life sentence for her role in the conspiracy to murder Tammy, maybe LVD is mystified that Chad wasn’t charged for his role in the conspiracy to murder Charles.

 

[Tricia]

Just thinking.....I believe LVD's family, including her parents and some siblings, followed her lead and avoided crossing her because her husband made a lot of money, and the family was well aware of it. In families where one member has access to significant financial resources, they often gain respect and influence, regardless of their actions or mental state. It seems like the perception of money tied to LVD gave her undue control and sway within the family, no matter how concerning her behavior was.

Other than this, I can’t figure out why some family members turned a blind eye to her actions.

You're right. I had forgotten about the money issue. Unless Chad Daybell or Lori decides to tell the truth (and that will never happen), we will be left with a ton of questions.

 

[Megnut]

Being fully aware of all parties involved, and serving a life sentence for her role in the conspiracy to murder Tammy, maybe LVD is mystified that Chad wasn’t charged for his role in the conspiracy to murder Charles.

Or more like, she's mystified because she found some magic mushrooms.

I can't stand, for one, how she refers to CV as "her husband". Yes, technically it was true, but in a very strained, estranged way. He ceased being useful to her. It's just his money hadn't.

It mystifies ME how she can continue to think so highly of herself.

JMO

 

[Megnut]

Refresher: LVD's opening  performance statement

Fake crying, no tears at 9 m

 

[aafromaa]

I admit I have watched only a little bit of this trial.

What I watched was the "don't flatter yourself" comment from the witness.

What is the consensus here as to how effective or not effective Lori has has been?

Is she acting as bat sh&^ crazy as in the small segment of witness questioning I saw?

What evidence was presented that she may have killed her husband?

Hey Justice101 !

The one you saw of her questioning Nancy Jo was perhaps her accurate representation of herself - as the narcissist we all know she is. When we thought she might actually ask Nancy Jo after the break what CV had said about her was probably the most exciting moment of the trial. But alas the judge warned her she could be opening doors she didn’t want to and apparently her advisory council talked her off that ledge during the break and she did not ask that question whey they returned.

I didn’t see much of the last day of testimony myself but have read that her cross of the detective was also a bit fiery.

As for her overall effectiveness as her own council - well she fell woefully short in preparation for trial regarding subpoenaing witnesses and making timely submissions so it was pretty evident that she was in over her head before the first day of testimony. Her cross examination of witnesses throughout seemed to be to make her own little points regarding how she wanted people to perceive her rather than having any real legal impact for the jury to consider.

Her opening has been the only time she’s really been able to get in anything about what she wants the jury to believe happened and she did it by constantly saying “the evidence will show” but then offered no evidence or testimony. My thoughts were she had been studying Jose Biaz’s opening statement in the Casey Anthony trial and providing a narrative without ever really intending to provide evidence or testimony to show anything she said in her narrative.

But she has had her moment in the spotlight which is all I think she ever really hoped to achieve in representing herself so in that she probably considers it a win - because she is a narcissist and can’t really see anything she does as wrong.

ETA: Regarding evidence against her - state had to show from that it was not self defense - the 2nd shot while he was laying on the floor will have a lot of weight with the jury on that one. AC spending the night when he lived only a few minutes away & was supposed to have Adam stay with him that night. Staging of the crime scene - bat near wrong hand of CV and delay in 911 call for over 40 min & AC’s head wound not consistent with being hit by a bat. Texts and timelines. It’s hard for me to say if what was before this jury is enough because I recall so much from the Idaho trials that was not presented here but I think when state does closing and puts it all together for the jury there will be no room for doubt.

 

[Izzylizzy]

This is from Justin Lims FB 1 May 2020.

I was referencing ZP's testimony at CD's trai.
State's exhibit 8-M
JJ& TR

@1:31:00

 

[Tricia]

Has it been made official that Lori will not testify? I'm assuming since nothing has been said that she is not going to testify and she will officially rest today in front of the jury.

 

[Cindizzi]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1914372440093868357

 

[Cindizzi]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1914373147563876589

 

[Cindizzi]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1914373486203597242

 

[Diddian]

Or more like, she's mystified because she found some magic mushrooms.

I can't stand, for one, how she refers to CV as "her husband". Yes, technically it was true, but in a very strained, estranged way. He ceased being useful to her. It's just his money hadn't.

It mystified ME how she can continue to think so highly of herself.

JMO

It grates on me every time she refers to CV as “my husband” too. Seems she should have lost that privilege on July 11, 2019 (if not the first time she bedded Chad under the roof CV was paying for).

I still wonder what happened and when to start all this. I think LVD always had the capacity for it, but that the trip toward doomsday and conspired killing must have started with some kind of spark. Not a psychotic break, but a serious loss of narcissistic supply, like she realized CV loved her like a human being rather than adored her like a goddess.

Maybe he admitted he wasn’t fond of the green chili chicken enchiladas she served at least 10 times a year.