AZ - Lori Vallow Daybell charged w/ conspiring to kill ex-husband Charles Vallow and another relative, Brandon Boudreaux, Chandler, Maricopa County #6

[Megnut]

Maybe there needs to be a new or different classification: List killers. They have a list of people to get rid of and methodically work their way down the list. And all the people on the list are known to them. IDK- serial killers to me are all about the ACT of killing, while Lori and Chad (and Melani?) are not about the act but rather about the victims being an obstruction to them in some manner?

Something about serial killing implies a lack of familiarity.

LD could be called a familial serial killer, but I agree, it's targeted. Hit listed. Thst makes it different. Up close and personal.

Family annihilator. Just not all at once.

I can only hope that her self appointed, self importance is stripped from her in prison.

She's an executioner. Nothing terribly unique about her.

A common criminal.

JMO

 

[Cindizzi]

Here’s where Treena Kay said that Melani is the subject of multiple investigations.
June 11, 2025. In her rebuttal after closing arguments in the 2nd Arizona trial:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1932915215890592156

 

[Izzylizzy]

Agree. I am concerned about her potential influence "preaching" to others. I just hope the prisoners are smart enough to see through her delusions and shut her down.

jmopinion

"Lunceford serves as the Relief Society president at the prison. In Latter-day Saint congregations, Relief Society is a class for women 18 and up. Lunceford would coordinate this class in individual units immediately following services and help with activities for the inmates throughout the week.

Finding Faith in prison: How criminals are teaching volunteers to love - East Idaho News

Between eight and 30 women gather in a small chapel for Sunday worship services at the Pocatello Women's Correctional Center. They're all dressed in scrubs, ranging in color from red and orange to brown and green, signifying the unit they've been assigned within the prison. Not every inmate is...

www.eastidahonews.com

This could get real dicey for the prison when it comes to LD.

Religious Rights of Inmates

Prisons must not interfere with a prisoner's religion, a fact noted by LegalMatch. Read here to find your religious rights or call (415) 946 - 3744

www.legalmatch.com

 

[Inthedetails]

Maybe there needs to be a new or different classification: List killers. They have a list of people to get rid of and methodically work their way down the list. And all the people on the list are known to them. IDK- serial killers to me are all about the ACT of killing, while Lori and Chad (and Melani?) are not about the act but rather about the victims being an obstruction to them in some manner?

Good idea and term.

jmo

 

[Inthedetails]

"Lunceford serves as the Relief Society president at the prison. In Latter-day Saint congregations, Relief Society is a class for women 18 and up. Lunceford would coordinate this class in individual units immediately following services and help with activities for the inmates throughout the week.

Finding Faith in prison: How criminals are teaching volunteers to love - East Idaho News

Between eight and 30 women gather in a small chapel for Sunday worship services at the Pocatello Women's Correctional Center. They're all dressed in scrubs, ranging in color from red and orange to brown and green, signifying the unit they've been assigned within the prison. Not every inmate is...

www.eastidahonews.com

This could get real dicey for the prison when it comes to LD.

Religious Rights of Inmates

Prisons must not interfere with a prisoner's religion, a fact noted by LegalMatch. Read here to find your religious rights or call (415) 946 - 3744

www.legalmatch.com

Yes, and Lori already sees herself as the leader among the prisoners - she's the peppy ray of sunshine leading exercises, likely "teaching" about legal issues, perhaps doing haircare. And she loves to preach.

The prisoners are a vulnerable group and she has already started to manipulate them, imo, by stating their cases as "family tragedies." She will exploit their ideas that they are victims of circumstances, not actually criminals.

My hope is that she THINKS she is influential in the population but won't actually be. Fingers crossed.

jmopinion

 

[indicolite22]

Something about serial killing implies a lack of familiarity.

LD could be called a familial serial killer, but I agree, it's targeted. Hit listed. Thst makes it different. Up close and personal.

Family annihilator. Just not all at once.

I can only hope that her self appointed, self importance is stripped from her in prison.

She's an executioner. Nothing terribly unique about her.

A common criminal.

JMO

Serial killers and family annihilators all lack empathy. Somehow I don't imagine Lori sitting in her cell and feeling remorse for what she had done, nor sparing a thought for her victims. Because she couldn't get away with her crimes, she claims a conspiracy against her. She only cares about herself and Chad. Everyone else is expendable to her and used as a tool to get what she wants.
Lori's main motive was money. Serial killers usually kill for pleasure.

 

[Inthedetails]

Anyone have insights on her attraction to Chad? I know he was an author in a genre she liked, but....come on. Chad?

I can't figure that out - would love to hear if anyone has ideas about it. Would she eventually have outgrown that attraction, especially since he doesn't have money?

jmopinion

 

[indicolite22]

Yes, and Lori already sees herself as the leader among the prisoners - she's the peppy ray of sunshine leading exercises, likely "teaching" about legal issues, perhaps doing haircare. And she loves to preach.

The prisoners are a vulnerable group and she has already started to manipulate them, imo, by stating their cases as "family tragedies." She will exploit their ideas that they are victims of circumstances, not actually criminals.

My hope is that she THINKS she is influential in the population but won't actually be. Fingers crossed.

jmopinion

Yesterday she was preaching to the court how all inmates (presumably her followers, whom she calls warriors), not just her, will be set free by divine intervention, and how they will turn their lives around. "Miracles will happen." She's certainly positioning herself as a religious leader.

 

[indicolite22]

Anyone have insights on her attraction to Chad? I know he was an author in a genre she liked, but....come on. Chad?

I can't figure that out - would love to hear if anyone has ideas about it. Would she eventually have outgrown that attraction, especially since he doesn't have money?

jmopinion

Chad, a prophet and a "famous" author, gave her validation - an illusion that her life was important, by making her a co-leader of his religious group. They are both manipulators. She is still operating under the same premise, predicting their eventual victory.

 

[lonetraveler]

"Lunceford serves as the Relief Society president at the prison. In Latter-day Saint congregations, Relief Society is a class for women 18 and up. Lunceford would coordinate this class in individual units immediately following services and help with activities for the inmates throughout the week.

Finding Faith in prison: How criminals are teaching volunteers to love - East Idaho News

Between eight and 30 women gather in a small chapel for Sunday worship services at the Pocatello Women's Correctional Center. They're all dressed in scrubs, ranging in color from red and orange to brown and green, signifying the unit they've been assigned within the prison. Not every inmate is...

www.eastidahonews.com

This could get real dicey for the prison when it comes to LD.

Religious Rights of Inmates

Prisons must not interfere with a prisoner's religion, a fact noted by LegalMatch. Read here to find your religious rights or call (415) 946 - 3744

www.legalmatch.com

I believe that Lori will continue to recruit followers for she and Chad's cult.

 

[lonetraveler]

Yesterday she was preaching to the court how all inmates (presumably her followers, whom she calls warriors), not just her, will be set free by divine intervention, and how they will turn their lives around. "Miracles will happen." She's certainly positioning herself as a religious leader.

 

[Cindizzi]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1949170512846086348

 

[Cindizzi]

From the Sentencing Hearing yesterday. I’m so glad that Kay and Larry won’t have any more Court proceedings to deal with.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1949098492506349679

 

[Love Never Fails]

Maybe there needs to be a new or different classification: List killers. They have a list of people to get rid of and methodically work their way down the list. And all the people on the list are known to them. IDK- serial killers to me are all about the ACT of killing, while Lori and Chad (and Melani?) are not about the act but rather about the victims being an obstruction to them in some manner?

I agree but serial killers sometimes study their victims first.

 

[Love Never Fails]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1949170512846086348

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Yes I believe his death can be attributed to Lori and Chad and maybe Zulema. Somehow. Some way.

 

[Love Never Fails]

Something about serial killing implies a lack of familiarity.

LD could be called a familial serial killer, but I agree, it's targeted. Hit listed. Thst makes it different. Up close and personal.

Family annihilator. Just not all at once.

I can only hope that her self appointed, self importance is stripped from her in prison.

She's an executioner. Nothing terribly unique about her.

A common criminal.

JMO

Most of BK’s victims were on his daily dog catcher route. He studied them and even had decided how to get into their homes. One was his close neighbor.

 

[Love Never Fails]

Chad, a prophet and a "famous" author, gave her validation - an illusion that her life was important, by making her a co-leader of his religious group. They are both manipulators. She is still operating under the same premise, predicting their eventual victory.

He wasn’t Gods Prophet.
He was a false prophet. Used it to get into bed with dumb women.

 

[indicolite22]

A podcaster/youtuber recently visited Chad's prison (due to Kohberger's case) and apparently death row inmates are allowed to socialize within their group and have visitors. He mentioned a few things about Chad. I'm not sure if he has it worse than Lori.

 

[Cindizzi]

 

[Smelly Squirrel]

Some post-sentencing docs have been filed. Below are only for Brandon's case, but the same are filed in Charles's case.



And here are 3 of them. Can't access the PSR which is the one I would most like to see, but maybe somebody in media will get it.