GUILTY Bali - Sheila von Wiese Mack, 62, found dead in suitcase, 12 Aug 2014 #1

[Curious Me]

Was this her biological child?

Yes, an article said she had this only child, the daughter, when she was 43 yrs. old.

Interview starts pg 5.
http://www.caxtonclub.org/reading/2013/may13.pdf

 

[Linda7NJ]

"She ended up becoming an editor for Studs Terkel, as well. “Of course he had his radio show at WFMT, and he had an assistant there, Sydney Lewis. But he had me editing his published interviews, and he’d often invite me along when he was going to see someone interesting.” One day, Terkel off-handedly said that he thought she should consider the unusual University of Chicago PhD program that goes by the name “Committee on Social Thought.” In particular, Terkel said she should study with Saul Bellow. She demurred, saying that it sounded intimidating. “Just go talk to him,” Terkel said. Dutifully, she went. When Bellow appeared, he asked her why she was there. She said it was because Terkel had sent her. “Well, then,” Bellow said, “if he sent you, I guess we should take you on.” Thus began ten years of study with Bellow. “It was an extraordinary time. We studied the books Bellow wanted to study, which included authors Joyce, Fitzgerald, Dickens, and Balzac. Of course I also read all of his own books, but we never discussed them.” In Hyde Park she Photograph by Robert McCamant met and married the musician James Mack.

“He had a big house in Oak Park where he’d lived with his previous wife, so it just seemed sensible to move there.” Among a variety of musical activities, Mack was director of music at Rockefeller Chapel at the U of C. At age 43, she had her daughter."

http://www.caxtonclub.org/reading/2013/may13.pdf

Yeah, but that really definitive.
As an adoptive mom, I often say the same.

 

[Linda7NJ]

Not that it matters...I was just wondering...

 

[otto]

Not that it matters...I was just wondering...

I'm curious too. This is the victim's husband:

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2006-08-16/news/0608160239_1_mr-mack-classical-music-jazz

 

[Curious Me]

Those two used Sheila's credit card without her permission just last month. Sounds like they were after her money, and most likely, her daughter had absolutely no love or respect for her mother. Why, oh why, take her, and him, on a luxury vacation?!! The mother was hoping to resolve the relationship with her daughter, and instead the mother ends up dead in a suitcase. It's too sad.

"The Chicago Sun-Times reports that just three weeks ago the young couple allegedly used Mrs Mack's credit card without her permission to party at a city hotel. Schaefer was arrested on suspicion of disorderly conduct after he 'began getting loud and waving arms,' according to police records."


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...tcase-outside-5-star-hotel.html#ixzz3AL5mmQ5e
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[Curious Me]

I'm curious too. This is the victim's husband:

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2006-08-16/news/0608160239_1_mr-mack-classical-music-jazz

So, the daughter, Heather, was 11 yrs. old when her father died. Does anyone have a picture of her father or a link with a picture?

Otto, thanks for this link. The father sounds like a wonderful person. He had four other daughters and a son from his other marriages. They'd be part of his will upon his death, I'd imagine.

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2006-08-16/news/0608160239_1_mr-mack-classical-music-jazz

 

[LaborDayRN]

He seems like a nice kid. What happened?!

?? I must have missed something..........

 

[otto]

It sounds like Sheila wanted to spend a really nice 10 day vacation with her daughter, and that the boyfriend showed up unexpectedly ... although her daughter was expecting him. He probably expected to stay in the room with them, which Sheila wouldn't agree to - for obvious reasons. It also seems like murder was planned but, as with some premeditated murder, getting rid of the body wasn't properly sorted out. Tragic.

 

[Oddsocks]

?? I must have missed something..........

I've seen a lot worse Facebook pages than his. That's all

 

[MsAnais]

Well this is alarming :facepalm:

Heather Mack was laughing and joking as she was led from one room to another the police lockup on Thursday, smiling and saying "Britney Spears" at one point, and later, "Oh my God" as she laughed, apparently at the media attention.

http://www.smh.com.au/world/bali-po...ed-in-bali-20140814-103xzv.html#ixzz3ALkWKxoi

 

[MsAnais]

A bit more info on the argument:

On Tuesday morning - the day of the death - police say the group had publicly argued over who would pay the hotel bill. Mrs Mack was heard saying she had paid for Mr Schaeffer’s flights to Bali, so the couple should pay for the hotel.

http://www.smh.com.au/world/bali-po...ed-in-bali-20140814-103xzv.html#ixzz3ALkkLSYX

 

[Curious Me]

See, this is what I mean about me being curious. :smile:
On his fb, he put her name with <333 after it.
According to the Urban Dictionary, it could mean half evil, or half the anti-Christ, a semi-Christ,
or I love you. Which is it?

Who paid for his plane ticket to Bali? He knew he was going, and getting his passport on August 6th.
I wish he didn't show up. I get the feeling the daughter dragged him into a bad situation pitting him against her Mother.

 

[MsAnais]

See, this is what I mean about me being curious. :smile:
On his fb, he put her name with <333 after it.
According to the Urban Dictionary, it could mean half evil, or half the anti-Christ, a semi-Christ,
or I love you. Which is it?

Who paid for his plane ticket to Bali? He knew he was going and getting his passport on August 6th.
I wish he didn't show up. I get the feeling the daughter dragged him into a bad situation pitting him against her Mother.

Mrs Mack paid for his plane ticket (see my post just above yours) :seeya:

 

[Curious Me]

Mrs Mack paid for his plane ticket (see my post just above yours) :seeya:

:thud: Oh!!! Thanks. What a shame this turned out so ugly.

 

[SouthAussie]

"They will be questioned for &#8220;deliberately causing someone&#8217;s death&#8221; which, in Bali, carries a 15-year sentence.

They do not yet have a murder weapon, but suspect that broken glass in Mrs Mack&#8217;s room, number 616, suggests it was a heavy glass object.

.... Mr Djoko said hotel gardeners also found three suitcases full of the family&#8217;s belongings hidden in the garden. When they opened the suitcases they found a number of blood-soaked hotel towels that had apparently been used to try to clean up the blood in the room."


http://www.smh.com.au/world/bali-po...ed-in-bali-20140814-103xzv.html#ixzz3AMVDYVpC

 

[SouthAussie]

So they tried to access Sheila's hotel safety deposit box, presumably for valuables and passports, but were not allowed to do that as per Sheila's instructions .. so they fled to the airport and tried to get their passports replaced, but were told to go to the US Embassy. So they then went to a hotel near the airport, and slept.

They were booked to leave on Thursday, but asked to check out immediately ....

..... the couple then told reception staff that they would not pay the bill because Heather&#8217;s mother would pay when she checked out later. They also demanded that hotel staff open a safety deposit box at reception and give them the contents.

The staff refused both requests. Mr Djoko said Mrs Mack had left clear instructions that only she should be able to open the safe, which staff believed contained her jewellery.

They went directly to Ngurah Rai airport and the immigration counter, saying they had lost their passports and needed new ones to fly out. Mr Djoko speculated that their passports were also locked inside the safety deposit box at the hotel. But immigration staff told them they would need to report the loss to the US consulate.

http://www.smh.com.au/world/bali-po...ed-in-bali-20140814-103xzv.html#ixzz3AMWEZ7GQ

 

[SouthAussie]

The teen was pictured smoking and smiling Wednesday while in custody

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...dy-stuffed-suitcase-outside-5-star-hotel.html

 

[katydid23]

"They will be questioned for “deliberately causing someone’s death” which, in Bali, carries a 15-year sentence.

They do not yet have a murder weapon, but suspect that broken glass in Mrs Mack’s room, number 616, suggests it was a heavy glass object.

.... Mr Djoko said hotel gardeners also found three suitcases full of the family’s belongings hidden in the garden. When they opened the suitcases they found a number of blood-soaked hotel towels that had apparently been used to try to clean up the blood in the room."


http://www.smh.com.au/world/bali-po...ed-in-bali-20140814-103xzv.html#ixzz3AMVDYVpC

Wow. only 15 yrs? If I ever decide to kill someone I guess I should take them on a trip to Bali first....

 

[SouthAussie]

Wow. only 15 yrs? If I ever decide to kill someone I guess I should take them on a trip to Bali first....

Yes ... you get much, much worse for drugs in Bali. We have recently had Aussies facing the death penalty there for smuggling drugs into/out of Bali.

One Aussie girl was given 20 years there for smuggling pot into the country .. though she got out in 9 years after much legal wrangling, intervention and publicity.

 

[katydid23]

The teen was pictured smoking and smiling Wednesday while in custody

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...dy-stuffed-suitcase-outside-5-star-hotel.html

Wow. A couple of EINSTEINS I see. :doh: