Malesherbes
Former Member
Do we know the cops didn't get tests from her? I mean what if they were interested in a DUI? I have a hard time believing the cops didn't follow through on this-
I don't know if they are in one place on here. But the ones I know of are Tenn., S.C., Ga. and Mass.
That atty. did not sugar coat one thing about that Crystal and its a good thing. When someone is telling you not to associate with a sex offender and you disbelieve the highly educated atty. Something is very wrong with you. I always felt strange about CP, why didn't she have custody? Well we know now, drugs. She chose them over her children.
Another thing that bothers me, What is this Haleighbug name I hate it, why the bug part? Is that suppose to be cute? I think it's undignified. jmo
I wish they would find this poor child.
That atty. did not sugar coat one thing about that Crystal and its a good thing. When someone is telling you not to associate with a sex offender and you disbelieve the highly educated atty. Something is very wrong with you. I always felt strange about CP, why didn't she have custody? Well we know now, drugs. She chose them over her children.
Another thing that bothers me, What is this Haleighbug name I hate it, why the bug part? Is that suppose to be cute? I think it's undignified. jmo
I wish they would find this poor child.
I truly believe it is a nickname..Ya know a cute term of endearment...You may think it is undiginfied.. Personally, I think its a sweet little nickname.... I used to call my youngest Meggaroni and even Meglet...
Oh, and what SO was CS warned against, may I ask, and who is CP?
That atty. did not sugar coat one thing about that Crystal and its a good thing. When someone is telling you not to associate with a sex offender and you disbelieve the highly educated atty. Something is very wrong with you. I always felt strange about CP, why didn't she have custody? Well we know now, drugs. She chose them over her children.
Another thing that bothers me, What is this Haleighbug name I hate it, why the bug part? Is that suppose to be cute? I think it's undignified. jmo
I wish they would find this poor child.
No offense to you, but it was not "supposed", it WAS started by a SO. You can Google it, see his name and his record, all the facts are there.She wasn't warned about a sex offender. The person that was in contact with Crystal and Marie was a Moderator at a forum. This particular forum about Haleigh, was supposed to be started by a sex offender. It helps when you listen to KP own words or read TJ Harts interview with her.
In all fairness...her ex-attorney would say anything at this juncture. A complaint was filed against her and she responded. There doesn't really have to be any truth to what she says. The burdon of proof has to be on the complainant. I've read here in this forum much more than I've posted...but I have to say no one and I mean no one knows what KP promised CS. I'm sure she promised a lot. IIRC she stated as much in early interviews. Let's remember she filed the motions. If she believed there was no merit to them then she should have advised her client of that. Instead, IMO she no doubt promised her the moon...and came up way short of delivering. JMHOI find it ironic that the Father of Haleigh, who, imo, is the only parent that gave a crap about her, stood up and raised her and her brother, supported, clothed, fed, took them to the Dr., made sure she went to school and that both were clean and well groomed, is villified by some.
While the Mother who, gave up custody, couldn't be bothered to get out of bed to take her child to the Dr., couldn't be bothered to show up the her custody hearing, told a lie about the hearing, made false abuse claims against the Father, continued to use cocaine while pregnant with her second child, did not pay child support, who was more concerned about getting her support order modified than she was her missing child, is placed on a pedestal and made out to be the "better parent." Ridiculous. All MOO.
PS- IMO it's tacky for an attorney to take to the airwaves and speak about an ex-client.
PS-IMO it's pretty tacky when an attorney takes to the airwaves to say anything about an ex-client.
And the same people who have sainted CS have nothing to say about the facts presented about CS by her own attorney, I guess because there is no defense of these things, IMO. But RC is still treated as a horrible person and no one has any proof he did anything he as been accused of. MOO.
Why Flossie? I am asking a very honest question I hope you read no disrespect in my question.
Well I just have to consider the source. I personally have never trusted KP, just my opinion of her when she came in guns a-blazing. I know there are plenty of rumors that Crystal might be using drugs but I personally don't think it would be fair to believe the rumors without proof. KP is a proven liar and it would further her cause more to make claims against Crystal. Just my honest opinion there you know that.
No offense to you, but it was not "supposed", it WAS started by a SO. You can Google it, see his name and his record, all the facts are there.
No offense, but did you read the letter from the Bar to CS? Apparently in their investigation, KP submitted enough evidence against the things that CS is claiming that they dismissed the complaint. She was accused by CS of not using due diligence when filing the support modification, to which KP gave all the reasons she could not file a frivolous claim. I don't think KP had any need to make up things about CS, I think the reality was more than enough, IMO.In all fairness...her ex-attorney would say anything at this juncture. A complaint was filed against her and she responded. There doesn't really have to be any truth to what she says. The burdon of proof has to be on the complainant. I've read here in this forum much more than I've posted...but I have to say no one and I mean no one knows what CP promised CS. I'm sure she promised a lot. IIRC she stated as much in early interviews. Let's remember she filed the motions. If she believed there was no merit to them then she should have advised her client of that. Instead, IMO she no doubt promised her the moon...and came up way short of delivering. JMHO
I find it ironic that the Father of Haleigh, who, imo, is the only parent that gave a crap about her, stood up and raised her and her brother, supported, clothed, fed, took them to the Dr., made sure she went to school and that both were clean and well groomed, is villified by some.
While the Mother who, gave up custody, couldn't be bothered to get out of bed to take her child to the Dr., couldn't be bothered to show up the her custody hearing, told a lie about the hearing, made false abuse claims against the Father, continued to use cocaine while pregnant with her second child, did not pay child support, who was more concerned about getting her support order modified than she was her missing child, is placed on a pedestal and made out to be the "better parent." Ridiculous. All MOO.
And the same people who have sainted CS have nothing to say about the facts presented about CS by her own attorney, I guess because there is no defense of these things, IMO. But RC is still treated as a horrible person and no one has any proof he did anything he as been accused of. MOO.
You know what elle? I haven't gotten any further into this thread than the post of yours I'm quoting AND will log off after posting this as I can't stomach this tonight. So far you have the only posts that I've read that really seem to have HaLeigh at heart. No disrespect to ANYONE cause I can't read any further tonight :sick: so I'm sure there are many others that have posted that do too. That said....IMVHO it seems for SO MANY that this whole nightmare..you know 'the fact that Haleigh is missing, gone..disappeared into thin air' (it seems) has become about Ron vs Crystal or Crystal vs Ron, whichever....
I've maintained from the beginning that BOTH were probably still using drugs (just a matter of to what extent)...for those who don't understand it, count your blessings, because it's a LIFESTYLE! ..and one that once someones in it, it doesn't change often, quickly or easily!
Regardless, it's MHO that the drug use of these "parents" had nothing to do with HaLeighs disappearance except for perhaps state of mind while under the influence AND that Ron and Misty know exactly what happened to HaLeigh AND that Crystal and company had nothing to do with it. ALL MY OPINION....She MAY be just as bad as I believe Ron to be concerning drug use, she MAY NOT have really cared about getting custody of HaLeigh, she MAY HAVE been responsible for HaLeigh missing Drs. appts because she overslept, etc. I have NO idea and to be honest I don't care because I don't believe that she had anything to do with HaLeigh not being at home on this cold damp night tucked tightly into her bed. THAT'S what I care about!..
elle, obviously none of the above was directed towards you, I guess I just started ranting a little and didn't mean to..Have a Good Night..
eta~.question~.what do Art Harris and Kim P have in common? ..People pick and choose based on their self serving interests which comments and statements are "true" and disregard the rest... I'm just not sure how that works? :waitasec:
For that person from the bar to insert all that in that letter you know they had to see the proof. Not a fan of Kim at all, but she did say that she provided evidence for everything alleged in the complaint and it was open records, so maybe someone will get what is available.
I'm not responding to what CS did...I'm responding to what KP said. Hypothetically, she could have said anything. The burden of proof was on CS and she didn't meet it. It's very difficult for an "ordinary" person to get a lawyer sanctioned. Now if one attorney brings a complaint against another...that's a different story.No offense, but did you read the letter from the Bar to CS? Apparently in their investigation, KP submitted enough evidence against the things that CS is claiming that they dismissed the complaint. She was accused by CS of not using due diligence when filing the support modification, to which KP gave all the reasons she could not file a frivolous claim. I don't think KP had any need to make up things about CS, I think the reality was more than enough, IMO.
I think in the beginning, before KP knew the extent of CS's problems, she believed she could get custody of Jr. but as she grew to know CS she realized that was not going to be possible. I am NO KP fan, but that is not her fault. IMO.