Bill Cosby charged w/aggravated Sexual Assault/other Rape Allegations *conviction vacated* *civil trial 2022 guilty* #6

[Niner]

Friday, April 20th:
*Trial continues (Day 10) (@ 9am ET) - PA - Andrea Constand (31 at the time) (Dec. 2003-Jan. 2004) - Bill Cosby (65 at time of crime/now 80) accused of 3 counts of aggravated indecent assault charges. Pled not guilty; free on bail. Mistrial in June, 2017. The 12-person jury consists of seven men and five women. Six of the men are white and one is African American. Four of the women are white and one is African American. The six alternates consist of four men and two women.
Defense started their case on 4/18/18.

 

[margarita25]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methaqualone

Link to Wikipedia for Quaaludes or Mandrax (Mandies in the UK)

Still available in some countries eg.South Africa and Mexico.

(I remember then being called "beans" back in the day)

 

[MsJosie]

Did “DR” Harry Milman, expert witness for the defense, testify in BC’s first trial too? Is there anyway to find out which of BC’s lawyers ‘found’ this expert?

I cannot imagine why the defense hired him at $675.00 an hour, to testify with no medical license, he could not answer questions that pertain to the case, who admits his source for written report and testimony were based on looking on the internet, who said he is a ‘toxicologist not a forensic toxicologist’, is not board certified, among his publications he uses a letter to an editor and two books of fiction and coils not answer basic questions.

This did not help BC at all. What were defense attorneys thinking? They should have known the prosecution would investigate the credentials of all experts throughly and ‘grill’ them on their knowledge. This is sad, really sad.

On Ipad so I cannot provide link but google the Daily Mail, April 20, 2018.

 

[jessie]

@ MsJosie Is this the article you're referring to ?? :

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ots-Cosbys-defense-teams-demand-mistrial.html

Expert witness Bill Cosby hopes will help clear him admits his only license is a 'driving license' and got key answer from Google

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Cosby lawyers want jurors to hear from accuser’s confidante

NORRISTOWN, Pa. (AP) — Bill Cosby’s lawyers are scrambling to make sure jurors at his sexual assault retrial hear from accuser Andrea Constand’s confidante before deliberations get underway next week — but they’re having trouble getting the woman to cooperate.

Sheri Williams isn’t responding to subpoena attempts, Cosby’s lawyers said. Now they’re seeking a judge’s permission to read parts of her deposition into the record just as prosecutors did with Cosby’s old testimony.

Judge Steven O’Neill is expected to rule on the request on Friday.

Constand testified at Cosby’s first trial last year that she and Williams were good friends and would speak “at all hours of the day: morning, noon, and night” and were in touch as she went to police in January 2005 with allegations he drugged and molested her about a year earlier...

https://wildabouttrial.com/featured/cosby-lawyers-want-jurors-to-hear-from-accusers-confidante/

 

[MsFacetious]

@ MsJosie Is this the article you're referring to ?? :

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ots-Cosbys-defense-teams-demand-mistrial.html

Expert witness Bill Cosby hopes will help clear him admits his only license is a 'driving license' and got key answer from Google

:thud:

There we have it. Ineffective assistance of counsel.
HOW did he ever get approved as an expert?
What a waste of time for all involved.
Generally credentials are screened by both sides long before trial!

 

[MsJosie]

:thud:

There we have it. Ineffective assistance of counsel.
HOW did he ever get approved as an expert?
What a waste of time for all involved.
Generally credentials are screened by both sides long before trial!

Yes, thank you.....and I was afraid of that but not dutprsied at Cosby and his teams tricks.

Once a man I like and no longer can respect....lost it 10 years ago when at one of his shows....but I never ever thought he would do what he did.

 

[EuTuCroquet?]

(I remember then being called "beans" back in the day)

Kinda OT

Interesting! We called ecstasy “beans” in my day (90s). Maybe it’s due to the evolution of the “magic beans” or “cool beans” phrases over time. I wonder what drug holds that nickname now.

 

[Shiressleuth]

(I remember then being called "beans" back in the day)

( I was too young to know what they were then - just heard the name and never saw any. Uppers and downers were also another common name for stuff I knew nothing about just heard people discussing at concerts etc. I was too busy with my head in school books I guess. :innocent: )

 

[Niner]

Cosby sex assault retrial to go to jury next week: judge
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...l-to-go-to-jury-next-week-judge-idUSKBN1HQ1JU

Judge Steven O’Neill said he anticipated Cosby’s fate would be in the hands of the jury next week. Lawyers said deliberations could begin as early as late Monday in an attempt to reach a unanimous verdict, which eluded the jury in Cosby’s first trial.

 

[Niner]

Monday, April 23rd:
*Trial continues (Day 11) (@ 9am ET) - PA - Andrea Constand (31 at the time) (Dec. 2003-Jan. 2004) - Bill Cosby (65 at time of crime/now 80) accused of 3 counts of aggravated indecent assault charges. Pled not guilty; free on bail. Mistrial in June, 2017. The 12-person jury consists of seven men and five women. Six of the men are white and one is African American. Four of the women are white and one is African American. The six alternates consist of four men and two women.
4/21/18: Judge Steven O’Neill said he anticipated Cosby’s fate would be in the hands of the jury next week. Lawyers said deliberations could begin as early as late Monday.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Cosby defense team lobs attacks in court of public opinion

NORRISTOWN, Pa. (AP) — Jurors weren’t allowed to hear testimony that Bill Cosby’s chief accuser was once hooked on hallucinogenic mushrooms or had her sights set on becoming a millionaire, but that hasn’t stopped the defense from airing the explosive claims about Andrea Constand in the court of public opinion.

With Cosby’s sexual assault retrial heading for deliberations this week, the 80-year-old comedian’s lawyers and publicists are increasingly playing to an audience of millions, not just the 12 people deciding his fate.

They’re hitting at Constand’s credibility in the media with attacks that Judge Steven O’Neill is deeming too prejudicial or irrelevant for court, and they’re holding daily press briefings portraying Cosby as the victim of an overzealous prosecutor and an unjust legal system.

Cosby spokesman Andrew Wyatt has decried Constand’s allegations of drugging and molestation as “fantastical stories” and deemed District Attorney Kevin Steele an “extortionist” for spending taxpayer money on the case...

https://wildabouttrial.com/featured/cosby-defense-team-lobs-attacks-in-court-of-public-opinion/

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Cosby defense blocked from using deposition
Michael R. Sisak, Associated Press

Norristown, Pa. – Jurors in Bill Cosby’s sexual assault retrial won’t hear old deposition testimony from a confidante of his chief accuser, a judge ruled Monday, dealing a blow to his lawyers’ effort to undermine her credibility.

As the trial entered its home stretch, Judge Steven O’Neill said there’s “no persuasive” reason to let Cosby’s lawyers read Sheri Williams’ deposition testimony into the record. The defense wanted to use the testimony from Andrea Constand’s 2005 civil lawsuit against Cosby after failing to reach Williams with a subpoena, but O’Neill rejected the request, saying a prosecutor should have the right to cross-examine her...

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/nation/2018/04/23/bill-cosby-sex-assault-trial/34160919/

 

[Jax49]

[FONT=&quot]https://twitter.com/mdent05/status/988478838446403584[/FONT]

[FONT=&amp]Cosby's defense team has rested its case and will not call Bill Cosby as a witness -- as expected. Closing statements will be held tomorrow morning with deliberations to begin afterwards.

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[Hatfield]

Cosby defense blocked from using deposition
Michael R. Sisak, Associated Press

Norristown, Pa. – Jurors in Bill Cosby’s sexual assault retrial won’t hear old deposition testimony from a confidante of his chief accuser, a judge ruled Monday, dealing a blow to his lawyers’ effort to undermine her credibility.

As the trial entered its home stretch, Judge Steven O’Neill said there’s “no persuasive” reason to let Cosby’s lawyers read Sheri Williams’ deposition testimony into the record. The defense wanted to use the testimony from Andrea Constand’s 2005 civil lawsuit against Cosby after failing to reach Williams with a subpoena, but O’Neill rejected the request, saying a prosecutor should have the right to cross-examine her...

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/nation/2018/04/23/bill-cosby-sex-assault-trial/34160919/

JMO
I agree with this ruling.

The defense had tons of time to get ready for this trial and so long as the witness is still alive then they should have been able to find her and use her if she was still willing to testify in court to whatever it is they wanted.

It tells me that this person got cold feet and does not want to commit perjury on the stand. It sounded like pretty damning testimony if they could have gotten their star witness and something is real fishy about it since they cannot produce the witness.

Its a little different than the judge allowing BCs deposition to be heard. He allowed that because the defendent was obviously not going to take the stand and if the defense wanted to cross examine the deposition from BC all they had to do was put him on the stand.

This is a little different IMO because its a 3rd party witness that is claiming something. So she should have been available if she still wanted to claim something. The prosecution has a right to cross examine any witness testimony usually.

I guess the big question is why was she not available?
Wonder what the real story is about her.

Does anyone think there was any truth to what she was saying on the deposition about hearing Andrea Constand scheming before it happened to try to frame a celebrity for a bunch of money and claim the celebrity took advantage of her?

 

[AlwaysShocked]

As a child of the sixties, I had to laugh when I saw Cosby's defense team talking about anyone 'becoming hooked on" or "addicted to" hallucinogenic mushrooms.". They are not an opioid or opioid-like drug.

I hope this jury convicts.

 

[Niner]

Tuesday, April 24th:
*Trial continues (Day 12) (@ 9am ET) - PA - Andrea Constand (31 at the time) (Dec. 2003-Jan. 2004) - Bill Cosby (65 at time of crime/now 80) accused of 3 counts of aggravated indecent assault charges. Pled not guilty; free on bail. Mistrial in June, 2017. The 12-person jury consists of seven men and five women. Six of the men are white and one is African American. Four of the women are white and one is African American. The six alternates consist of four men and two women.
4/23/18: Cosby's defense team has rested its case and will not call Bill Cosby as a witness -- as expected. Closing statements will be held tomorrow morning (4/24) with deliberations to begin afterwards.


:judge:

 

[jessie]

Cosby lawyers want jurors to hear from accuser’s confidante

NORRISTOWN, Pa. (AP) — Bill Cosby’s lawyers are scrambling to make sure jurors at his sexual assault retrial hear from accuser Andrea Constand’s confidante before deliberations get underway next week — but they’re having trouble getting the woman to cooperate.

Sheri Williams isn’t responding to subpoena attempts, Cosby’s lawyers said.[/U] Now they’re seeking a judge’s permission to read parts of her deposition into the record just as prosecutors did with Cosby’s old testimony.

Judge Steven O’Neill is expected to rule on the request on Friday.

Constand testified at Cosby’s first trial last year that she and Williams were good friends and would speak “at all hours of the day: morning, noon, and night” and were in touch as she went to police in January 2005 with allegations he drugged and molested her about a year earlier...

https://wildabouttrial.com/featured/cosby-lawyers-want-jurors-to-hear-from-accusers-confidante/

See, I can't understand this BBM. If someone is subpoenaed aren't they forced to come to court ? Would 'not responding' be against the law and probably result in imprisonment? I thought a subpoena was enforceable?
Always difficult to compare different law in UK & USA, but be grateful if anyone could explain. How do the jury take into consideration this behaviour?
Have I got this all wrong? TIA

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Cosby jury to decide: Serial rapist or con artist’s mark

NORRISTOWN, Pa. (AP) — The jury that will start deliberating Bill Cosby’s fate on Tuesday has heard the comedian described over the past two weeks both as a “serial rapist” and a con artist’s victim.

They have seen a parade of accusers testify that the man once revered as “America’s Dad” had a secret life of drugging and violating women. And they have heard from a witness who says his chief accuser talked about framing a high-profile person to score a big payday.

Now, seven men and five women who have been kept in a suburban Philadelphia hotel, away from family, friends and daily routines, will get to have their say in the first big celebrity trial of the #MeToo era.

“You now have all of the evidence,” Judge Steven O’Neill told them after Cosby’s side rested on Monday without calling the 80-year-old comedian to the stand. “Try to relax, so that you’re on your game tomorrow.”

Jurors could be in for a marathon...

https://wildabouttrial.com/featured/cosby-jury-to-decide-serial-rapist-or-con-artists-mark/

 

[Niner]

Tuesday, April 24th:
*Trial continues (Day 12) (@ 9am ET) - PA - Andrea Constand (31 at the time) (Dec. 2003-Jan. 2004) - Bill Cosby (65 at time of crime/now 80) accused of 3 counts of aggravated indecent assault charges. Pled not guilty; free on bail. Mistrial in June, 2017. The 12-person jury consists of seven men and five women. Six of the men are white and one is African American. Four of the women are white and one is African American. The six alternates consist of four men and two women. The jury has been sequestered.
4/23/18: Cosby's defense team has rested its case and will not call Bill Cosby as a witness -- as expected. Closing statements will be held tomorrow morning (4/24) with deliberations to begin afterwards.

:judge: