Keep talking Goody. Why did she feel the need to take off the socks in the first place? To mix up the blood trail with her bare feet? I thought about something else. What if she was holding the kids down and he was the one stabbing them, or the other way around? Would that still make the cast off blood pattern on her gown? Another thing she COULD have said is that while Darin was giving cpr, the blood sprayed on her night gown. Too bad she wasn't any where near the kids to be able to try to use this lie. Now, I know I am just spouting out theories that have NO fact or basis to them. I am just trying to figure out WHY they thought she needed to trash the socks....and what else MIGHT have been down that drain! AGAIN...all this post is BS...I am just letting my mind think of stuff...whether it has any basis or not.:laugh:
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Ok beesy....I agree it was a risk not worth taking. So WHY the need to take the socks off IF she was wearing them on her feet....or do you believe they were never on her feet to start with? I like the biting theory. That might be it. The sock has always been a thing that I couldn't figure out. Not that is matters in the way of her being innocent or guilty. I still want yall to throw out any and every theory that went through yalls mind....whether it makes sense or not. The thing is......no matter what tale we spin...not all of the evidence fits. I guess that is why I keep digging for more.:banghead:
Ok...My husband just got in. He said he most certainly WOULD NOT ask for anyone to open up a clean out drain to look for old evidence. If he was going to open it up for any reason it would be to stuff me and my crazy theory AZZ down it never to be found!deandaniellws said:
Can you believe that!?!?! :loser: And, that there is no way possible anything could be left there. I guess that takes care of that doesn't it? P.S....If I go missing...yall will know where to send the cops to look for me ok?:crazy:I need to know more before I can have any strong theories on what actually happened, but.....The way i see it is has to be one of two things.....#1: she really was emotionally fragile and flipped out, lost control just long enough to murder Devon which resulted in a big struggle with Darin as he tried to disarm her, causing the bruises and the various little cuts and pricks, etc. They calmed down and talked about what to do. Little Damon may have slept thru it all. It may sound crazy, but maybe they just couldn't bear for Damon to have to go thru life without his brother. As they talked it out, they came to the decision that it would look better if all three who slept downstairs were attacked so while he slept, Damon was stabbed. The stabbing didn't have the same enthusiasm behind it as Devon's did so Damon didn't die. Instead he crawled toward the kitchen, where he was stabbed again at some point.deandaniellws said:Yeah...that makes more sense that what I was thinking so I will go with that. Ok...maybe she took them off to mix the blood trail up after she cut her own throat? Thinking it would be better looking for the cops to see? I don't know. Give me a run down on what you think happened and why. You too Goody! I want to know what yall are thinking between the taking off of the socks and the time the cops arrived.
I don't think Darin was upstairs that night. I think he put the baby to bed and came back downstairs to continue arguing with Darlie or talking, depending on whatever events I may not be aware of. I think he knew either what was going down or did know soon after Devon was attacked. I don't see a lot of rage in these killings. There could be some anger though in Devon's murder. Overall, it seems more methodical and deliberate than frenzied and out of control to me.
Now if the arguing did not happen and that is all a creation by the family to protect Darlie, then I feel there is only one other real possibility left. They both knew about it. They both planned it. They were looking for a way to put them in the spotlight, make them rich and famous, give them financial freedom to take all those trips Darin said they deserved. Susan Smith's case and several cases in Texas brought book deals and movie rights to media attention. They were both risk takers and enthrepeanuers who had not experienced failure yet. The shop had been successful for them in a very short time. And while it was looking like it wouldn't last, it gave them a taste for the good life. It gave them a taste of what they could do together if they were willing to take risks. Maybe it is as simple as them just making a choice...the kids in exchange for a life that they felt was better for the family as a whole. Maybe they just told themselves that the kids would understand, that they would forgive them. After all, they would be going to a wonderful place. The Routiers' version of the 70 virgins. So they threw a plan together and executed it swiftly that night with Darlie doing most of the dirty work and Darin doing most of the staging and evidence dumping. Their choice of weapons would have been very limited. They almost had to go with the knive found in the home to avoid being linked to medication or a gun, etc.
I can't go into much more detail because all this thinking is making my brain convulse. LOL! Suffice it to say that theory number 2 would have to include a belief that they would come out sympathetic heroes who were forced into a horrific circumstance not of their own doing, and that they would show the world how they made lemonade out of it amidst all the donations and community support. Eventually they would vacation in Europe where the world's greatest plastic surgeon would fix the scar so that it could never be seen again. Darlie would have her beauty back and the two of them would make it all up by doting on Drake. So dramatic, so gothic novelish, so soap opera-ish. And who knows? Once the book deals and movies were done being made on the story, Darlie would find the doors open for a new Hollywood career for herself with the ever loyal Darin in tow.
So I wish I knew who Darlie was. i suspect she may have been dreamy and fanciful. But was she also a frightened, secretly haunted young woman who broke under all the pressure or is she a cold blooded, so focused on herself manipulator that she would sell out her children for a chance at stardom or celebrity status and the good life? And I haven't even gotten to Darin yet.:waitasec:
Find any holes?
hahahahhahahahhaha. Sorry about that, but at least you asked. But remind hiim that they have dug up bodies in the grave for 30 years that have not decomposed nearly as much as estimated and were able to do testing that nailed the killer. So I am not so sure he is right about nothing being there at this stage. If I had to put money on it, I would agree with him, but shoot anything is possible. Where is his sense of adventure???????deandaniellws said:Ok...My husband just got in. He said he most certainly WOULD NOT ask for anyone to open up a clean out drain to look for old evidence. If he was going to open it up for any reason it would be to stuff me and my crazy theory AZZ down it never to be found!
Sounds good to me Goody. I also think the long term chance of money might have been the cause. Also, I heard that she still wanted to try for a girl. Maybe they couldn't afford 4 children. I am just talking away with no basis...of course. I would also like to find out more about Darin. Good, bad, true, unture, ect...we have heard a lot about Darlie...and very little about Darin. I do also think that he was involved with the plan. Of course, that is just a gut feeling as I can see that nothing at all, except the inadmissible polygraph, tie him to anything in the crime.:banghead: But what about the socks? Why even take off the socks?
If they were both involved and they did dump something down the sewer, it is obvious that something about the socks was a threat. Maybe she saw the blood on the socks. Maybe the other sock had a lot more blood on it. It is all speculation so it doesn't really matter. It is obvious by the clean up they found started and stopped that the crime scene was getting away from her. Maybe fear was the only motivator. Probably not a dumb move to get rid of anything that had blood on it that was not part of her shirt. Blood experts can work some miracles sometimes. Lucky Darin. Too bad Darlie couldn't have gone shirtless. :woohoo:deandaniellws said:
Darin did say that she was holding the wounds closed as he blew air into Devon's mouth. That was an effort to say the blood did exactly what you suggested. However, I do believe they can tell the difference between cast off blood and blood flying out of a chest thru the air.deandaniellws said:
Ask you husband, Pam, if he could show us what the main sewer line out there at an alley in a subdivision built in the early 90's would look like. Are there any alcoves or jagged areas where a sock or shirt could get hung up?
Maybe they didn't like the splatter pattern on one of the socks? Maybe the other one looked different than the one that missed the street drain? I can't believe they didn't realize that luminol would show cleaned up blood! Of course, maybe they aren't gory people who read and watch crime stuff. I have always been fascinated by crimes. Not in the committing of them...but how forensics can figure out all the stuff and how it most likely happened. I find that REAL interesting. If I was young....just starting out in life, I would get my degree in that. They have a new branch at Sam Houston opening up in forensic studies.Goody said:
Ok. I will. He has gone to help a friend take a tractor back now. LOL....He is working harder now than he ever did before he retired. PS...He laughs at us so hard sometimes. He thinks we are funny studying all these cases.Goody said:
I think I would too....at least somewhere between law and forensics, depending on other aspects of my life at the time, I suppose. I find it all interesting.deandaniellws said:Maybe they didn't like the splatter pattern on one of the socks? Maybe the other one looked different than the one that missed the street drain? I can't believe they didn't realize that luminol would show cleaned up blood! Of course, maybe they aren't gory people who read and watch crime stuff. I have always been fascinated by crimes. Not in the committing of them...but how forensics can figure out all the stuff and how it most likely happened. I find that REAL interesting. If I was young....just starting out in life, I would get my degree in that. They have a new branch at Sam Houston opening up in forensic studies.
I get the same here. Ribbed all the time by my son and TJ. They think I could find something more constructive to do with my time. They are probably right but it is hard to quit once you get the habit. hahahahahdeandaniellws said:Ok. I will. He has gone to help a friend take a tractor back now. LOL....He is working harder now than he ever did before he retired. PS...He laughs at us so hard sometimes. He thinks we are funny studying all these cases.
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