CA - Bakersfield 3: Disappearance of Baylee Despot & murders of James Kulstad & Micah Holsonbake #2

[MrsWells]

No comment on what was in the bag. Haven’t heard anything and it would be inappropriate to speculate. Though I assume there were other items with it that led authorities to believe he was murdered. I’m not sure if an arm by itself is enough to classify as a murder, but it could be.

I’d like to believe BD is still alive. I know that might not sit well with those close to her, so delete if too sensitive. If there is a sex trafficking angle and that’s not just smoke being blown up our you know what, her being alive could be likely. No, I don’t think she met the same fate as MH. But that’s just my opinion. MH was a loose cannon leading up to his disappearance and even if BD knew about what happened, I don’t think she received the same treatment as him. He was way more involved in this than she seems to have been. Her story sounds like she was just with the wrong people, at the wrong place, at the wrong time.

I'm just quoting this because I've been thinking a lot about the whole "human trafficking" angle. I know that when we think of human trafficking, we usually think of people being forced into prostitution, which happens to both female and male victims. Although I think that's totally possible (perhaps even probable) because of SH and her contacts, the followers and comments on her SM, etc., I also think that it seems as if both Baylee and Micah were already being "trafficked".

We know that according to Micah, he was having to put guns together and had been threatened with the possibility of his family being harmed if he didn't comply. That, in itself, falls under the category of human trafficking.

 

[Dobie12]

Out of curiosity, I googled MRQ (spelled out) and found a site called juralindex.com with all kinds of arrest records for MQ. Some in CA and some that say FED. Now, if you also do this search, just be aware there seems to be a MQ in the state of MD but the middle name is different. Not the same person. There looks to be a few more MQ's in the U.S. but for the most part, the site shows him and although you can't see the full record, this site gives you defendant names involved and nature of the crime. But the FED cases I'm not able to make out the crime (except for the one we already know about). Interesting though.

 

[MrsWells]

We have to operate under the notion that WHOEVER called out MQ and said “I know about San Diego” could have been mistaken as there was a MQ convicted of second degree murder in San Diego about 9 or 10 years ago. Not the same MQ in question in this case.

But for those that aren’t up to speed on the MQ involved in this case: United States of America, Plaintiff-appellee, v. MQ, Defendant-appellant, 408 F.3d 337 (7th Cir. 2005)

This part makes my blood boil.

"Between late December 2000 and July 2001, Q purchased 39 firearms from federally licensed dealers in the State of Indiana. The guns cost more than eleven thousand dollars, and at least eleven of them later were recovered at crime scenes in the Detroit and Chicago areas. Gun sale records linked the purchases back to Q."

 

[Dobie12]

This part makes my blood boil.

"Between late December 2000 and July 2001, Q purchased 39 firearms from federally licensed dealers in the State of Indiana. The guns cost more than eleven thousand dollars, and at least eleven of them later were recovered at crime scenes in the Detroit and Chicago areas. Gun sale records linked the purchases back to Q."

Yes, and I've never thought about it this way before, but he knew those would be used in crimes. Most likely for murder at some point. What the heck does that say about him??

 

[MrsWells]

Yes, and I've never thought about it this way before, but he knew those would be used in crimes. Most likely for murder at some point. What the heck does that say about him??

Yep, he knows exactly who wants those guns.

 

[ChasingAmy]

Out of curiosity, I googled MRQ (spelled out) and found a site called juralindex.com with all kinds of arrest records for MQ. Some in CA and some that say FED. Now, if you also do this search, just be aware there seems to be a MQ in the state of MD but the middle name is different. Not the same person. There looks to be a few more MQ's in the U.S. but for the most part, the site shows him and although you can't see the full record, this site gives you defendant names involved and nature of the crime. But the FED cases I'm not able to make out the crime (except for the one we already know about). Interesting though.

There are MQs. It’s a pretty common name. Middle name is going to be the difference maker in MOST cases. Possible shared names but unlikely. He has history all over San Diego County as well as ties to Texas. Killeen area to be specific. But CA I’ve found connection to: San Diego, Santee, El Cajon, Lemon Grove, Chula Vista as well as Las Vegas. More than a few civil suits where he was evicted and basically refused to move out.

 

[MrsWells]

Othr Off
Source: CA Department Of Corrections And Rehabilitation
Source State: California

Personal Details
First Name: M******
Middle Name: R*******
Last Name: Q****
Sex Offender: No

Apr. 5, 2007 - Offense - Othr Off
Offense Date: Apr. 5, 2007
Crime Location: California
Charge Category: Criminal/Traffic
Offense Code: P236
Lookup Code
Offense Description: Othr Off
Case Number: P236_QUEMAT_20070405
Court Name: CA Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation Court

Disposition Date: Jun. 11, 2008

 

[MrsWells]

C. FALSE IMPRISONMENT
1240. Felony False Imprisonment (Pen. Code, §§ 236, 237)

The defendant is charged [in Count ] with false imprisonment by
violence or menace [in violation of Penal Code section 237(a)].
To prove that the defendant is guilty of this crime, the People must
prove that:

1. The defendant intentionally [and unlawfully] (restrained[,]/ [or]
confined[,]/ [or] detained) someone [or caused that person to be
(restrained[,]/ [or] confined[,]/ [or] detained)] by violence or
menace;
AND

2. The defendant made the other person stay or go somewhere
against that person’s will.
Violence means using physical force that is greater than the force
reasonably necessary to restrain someone.
Menace means a verbal or physical threat of harm[, including use of a
deadly weapon]. The threat of harm may be express or implied.
[An act is done against a person’s will if that person does not consent to
the act. In order to consent, a person must act freely and voluntarily
and know the nature of the act.]
[False imprisonment does not require that the person restrained be
confined in jail or prison.]
New January 2006

BENCH NOTES
Instructional Duty
The court has a sua sponte duty to give an instruction defining the elements of the
crime. (People v. Haney (1977) 75 Cal.App.3d 308, 312–313 [142 Cal.Rptr. 186]
[failure to instruct on elements of violence, menace, fraud, or deceit necessary to
establish felony false imprisonment requires reversal].)
Give the bracketed words “and unlawfully” in element 1 on request if there is
evidence that the defendant acted lawfully. The court will need to further define for
the jury when a restraint, detention, or confinement is legal.
Give the bracketed definition of “against a person’s will” on request.
Give the final paragraph on request to inform jurors that false “imprisonment” is

CALCRIM No. 1240. Felony False Imprisonment :: California Criminal Jury Instructions (CALCRIM) (2017) :: Justia

 

[brunetteiq]

Out of curiosity, I googled MRQ (spelled out) and found a site called juralindex.com with all kinds of arrest records for MQ. Some in CA and some that say FED. Now, if you also do this search, just be aware there seems to be a MQ in the state of MD but the middle name is different. Not the same person. There looks to be a few more MQ's in the U.S. but for the most part, the site shows him and although you can't see the full record, this site gives you defendant names involved and nature of the crime. But the FED cases I'm not able to make out the crime (except for the one we already know about). Interesting though.

This is interesting. On the above mentioned site, I saw a bail bond case where they are suing MQ along with a defendant named BT. The last name which is very unique, is the same as MQ's sister in law. The one that is married to his ex wife's brother. They are both here in Bakersfield as well.......

 

[ChasingAmy]

Othr Off
Source: CA Department Of Corrections And Rehabilitation
Source State: California

Personal Details
First Name: M*****
Middle Name: R******
Last Name: Q****
Sex Offender: No

Apr. 5, 2007 - Offense - Othr Off
Offense Date: Apr. 5, 2007
Crime Location: California
Charge Category: Criminal/Traffic
Offense Code: P236
Lookup Code
Offense Description: Othr Off
Case Number: P236_QUEMAT_20070405
Court Name: CA Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation Court

Disposition Date: Jun. 11, 2008

Wheee did you find this?

 

[MrsWells]

Where did you find this?

Paid background info site - and the info lines up with the timeline of arrests/cases from superior court sites. Looks like they kept adding charges after one particular arrest, so they don't each line up exactly.

I'm guessing this is what that woman was talking about when she said she knew about "what happened in San Diego" and he went silent.

 

[MrsWells]

There are MQs all over. It’s a pretty common name. Middle name is going to be the difference maker in MOST cases. Possible shared names but unlikely. He has history all over San Diego County as well as ties to Texas. Killeen area to be specific. But CA I’ve found connection to: San Diego, Santee, El Cajon, Lemon Grove, Chula Vista as well as Las Vegas. More than a few civil suits where he was evicted and basically refused to move out.

A couple of whopper tax liens, too - one for just under $18,000.

 

[Jetta02]

This Midwestern Sloth can't keep up with you Bakersfield Sleuths!!!

Good job you guys/GALS!!

 

[Speak truth]

Paid background info site - and the info lines up with the timeline of arrests/cases from superior court sites. Looks like they kept adding charges after one particular arrest, so they don't each line up exactly.

I'm guessing this is what that woman was talking about when she said she knew about "what happened in San Diego" and he went silent.

Thank you for paying and sharing what you found!! Great information!

 

[Dobie12]

Othr Off
Source: CA Department Of Corrections And Rehabilitation
Source State: California

Personal Details
First Name: M*****
Middle Name: R******
Last Name: Q****
Sex Offender: No

Apr. 5, 2007 - Offense - Othr Off
Offense Date: Apr. 5, 2007
Crime Location: California
Charge Category: Criminal/Traffic
Offense Code: P236
Lookup Code
Offense Description: Othr Off
Case Number: P236_QUEMAT_20070405
Court Name: CA Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation Court

Disposition Date: Jun. 11, 2008

I looked up the offense code (false imprisionment) and see the Charge Category listed as "Criminal/Traffic"
Is this what I think it is: human trafficking?

 

[MrsWells]

Thank you for paying and sharing what you found!! Great information!

No problem, I'm happy to do it. I want those suckers to go down.

 

[MrsWells]

I looked up the offense code (false imprisionment) and see the Charge Category listed as "Criminal/Traffic"
Is this what I think it is: human trafficking?

Yes.

 

[Dobie12]

Yes.

Oh my gosh...
The lowest of the low. This vile man needs to be put away for good.

 

[ChasingAmy]

Yes.

That could be related to his domestic abuse case? I thought I saw someone mention that on here? That doesn’t necessarily just apply to human trafficking. If his girlfriend and him were in an argument and he grabbed her arm and wouldn’t let her leave, he would get that designation. HIGHLY unlikely he would be walking free right now if that specific charge is “human trafficking”

 

[MrsWells]

That’s not what that means. Can’t be spreading that false narrative. That means it was a criminal traffic offense. Not human trafficking.

I wasn't saying "criminal traffic" = human trafficking. I was saying that what she referred to as the "offense code" (I assumed she meant the California penal code I highlighted in bolded red) refers to human trafficking. She also said "false imprisonment", which is a phrase used in that section of the penal code.