CA- Body (IDd as Celeste Rivas Hernandez) found in vehicle at Hollywood tow yard, abandoned Tesla registered to singer D4vd – 8 September 2025 #2

[john's mom]

That branch of molecular psychiatry is very new. So far, I don't think the people who are expert at it are doing forensics with it - but I do believe that by the end of my lifetime, it will find medical and forensic uses. Just being able to look for markers of human growth hormone somewhere in bones would be a big deal.

Interesting question about life after death. I usually defer to my husband (who is a philosopher) on such topics, but I personally do believe that some souls/spirits continue to interact sensitively with our material world. I believe people who have recovered from near death experiences, as well as the experiences of the world's shamans. I've heard some incredible stories in my life. One of the mainstays of undergrad anthropology is teaching Magic, Witchcraft and Religion and so it's been a lifelong interest (and of course my students sometimes have really inexplicable experiences).

It's not completely off topic, in my opinion, given the nature of our discussions here on WS. We deal with death and dying every day. I am not a primary researcher any longer, in any of these topics, but my earliest professional job was in medical/psychiatric research - our tools back then were so limited!

Thanks for your detailed information. It’s very interesting and much appreciated and understandable.

 

[katydid23]

It feels like the suspect might get away with this for lack of solid evidence.

They won't likely ever have an exact time of death. Or even an exact Cause of Death. Without those 2 things, they cannot prove there was a homicide. And how are they going to prove who placed her in the trunk.

I think if there were videos showing something incriminating at the house, we would know about them already because there would be arrests. The same with the rumours about the Tesla having internal cameras which would record the body being placed in the frunk. If that was true, someone would be charged already, imo.

Is there a possibility they are putting this case forth in a Grand Jury now?

 

[lastkiss]

That branch of molecular psychiatry is very new. So far, I don't think the people who are expert at it are doing forensics with it - but I do believe that by the end of my lifetime, it will find medical and forensic uses. Just being able to look for markers of human growth hormone somewhere in bones would be a big deal.

Interesting question about life after death. I usually defer to my husband (who is a philosopher) on such topics, but I personally do believe that some souls/spirits continue to interact sensitively with our material world. I believe people who have recovered from near death experiences, as well as the experiences of the world's shamans. I've heard some incredible stories in my life. One of the mainstays of undergrad anthropology is teaching Magic, Witchcraft and Religion and so it's been a lifelong interest (and of course my students sometimes have really inexplicable experiences).

It's not completely off topic, in my opinion, given the nature of our discussions here on WS. We deal with death and dying every day. I am not a primary researcher any longer, in any of these topics, but my earliest professional job was in medical/psychiatric research - our tools back then were so limited!

An anthropologist and a philosopher, the conversations in your home must get very interesting indeed

Thank you for sharing this with me. Forensic science fascinates me, though as an ND person I sadly have never had the concentration span to study for a profession.

For the record I do too. Believe in the spirit as a seperate entity to the physical. Although I have never experienced anything myself I too have heard stories from people I know and trust which cannot be explained with our current knowledge.

We are more than the sum of our parts.

Thanks again

 

[lastkiss]

That branch of molecular psychiatry is very new. So far, I don't think the people who are expert at it are doing forensics with it - but I do believe that by the end of my lifetime, it will find medical and forensic uses. Just being able to look for markers of human growth hormone somewhere in bones would be a big deal.

Interesting question about life after death. I usually defer to my husband (who is a philosopher) on such topics, but I personally do believe that some souls/spirits continue to interact sensitively with our material world. I believe people who have recovered from near death experiences, as well as the experiences of the world's shamans. I've heard some incredible stories in my life. One of the mainstays of undergrad anthropology is teaching Magic, Witchcraft and Religion and so it's been a lifelong interest (and of course my students sometimes have really inexplicable experiences).

It's not completely off topic, in my opinion, given the nature of our discussions here on WS. We deal with death and dying every day. I am not a primary researcher any longer, in any of these topics, but my earliest professional job was in medical/psychiatric research - our tools back then were so limited!

Sorry can I just clarify one more thing I forgot to add in my last response. The markers for human growth hormones. Am I right in thinking this would enable you to better age remains? Would there be any other uses for it maybe?

Thanks again.

 

[Telltale]

It feels like the suspect might get away with this for lack of solid evidence.

They won't likely ever have an exact time of death. Or even an exact Cause of Death. Without those 2 things, they cannot prove there was a homicide. And how are they going to prove who placed her in the trunk.

I think if there were videos showing something incriminating at the house, we would know about them already because there would be arrests. The same with the rumours about the Tesla having internal cameras which would record the body being placed in the frunk. If that was true, someone would be charged already, imo.

Is there a possibility they are putting this case forth in a Grand Jury now?

My concern is that time might have unfortunately been on the suspects side on this one.

They probably are pretty confident on what day she died, because (I imagine) within the coroners estimated timeframe, the Tesla registered the frunk opening and closing, likely for the last time.

With D4vds very public tour schedule, they know whether he was in L.A when she died.

Beyond that though, if, as we suspect, she was put in the car over a month before the body was found, then that's going to unfortunately limit CCTV opportunities. In my experience, most (not all) commercial, professional private and local government continuous CCTV overwrites itself monthly (unless saved.) For video doorbells it can be 1-7 days. Otherwise activated CCTV can last longer (depending how often it's triggered.) High Def video files are big and systems have only so much memory capacity.

In the same way, I doubt the parked Tesla stores security CCTV footage long if at all, unless the car registers interfere/damage. If the perps had the keys, (or hopefully used the app) I doubt any recording made were saved a month later. (Happy to be corrected by someone more familiar with this Tesla. I am guessing)

TLDR, there could have been cameras all over that would have captured any movements too, from and around that Tesla. Does not mean that footage still exists unfortunately.

I hope they went straight to where the car was towed from and asked for/pulled all footage from cameras on the street, but investigation delays, processing the Tesla data etc or just time already elapsed might mean they missed the chance to save that evidence.

DNA will be another factor. D4vd can likely explain away DNA in his car and even on Celeste who was in his car a month. May be much harder to explain anyone else's they find.

Speculation obviously.

 

[arielilane]

Timestamp 0:00
So, what's going on?

Um, I heard like some like gunshots.

Okay. How close to your residence were

they?

They were like right outside my house

and I think someone's dead.

We've talked about how D4vd's parents

seem to be the victims of a swatting

incident as police investigate the death

of a young girl found in the singer's

car. But right now, we have the audio of

the person calling in that apparent fake

report to D4vd's parents' home. And as

we think about, is D4vd being targeted?

Is someone framing or harassing him? Was

this person hiding their voice on the

call? Let's find out when we bring on a

forensic audio expert. Welcome to

Sidebar, presented by Law and Crime. I'm

Jesse Weber.

Okay, so we're exploring another

strange, weird aspect of this whole

investigation into the death of

14-year-old Celeste Rivas Hernandez. As

we know, her body was found in the trunk

of a car out in LA that was registered

to viral singer 20-year-old D4vd. Her

decomposed body was found in this car

that was towed to a Hollywood tow yard.

And as we have covered extensively right

now, there are no arrests. There are no

named or identified suspects or persons

of interest.


Timestamp 8:13
Let me just back up one second. Putting

aside from the fact of, you know, the

source of it, where it came from, the

fact it was published on, you know, the

internet, now everybody hears it. Just

to be clear about something, when you're

listening to that recording, are you

suggesting a it is a real life person

using a piece of technology to mask

their true voice or is this AI

generated?

Well, it could be either, but just from

my experience and, you know, 30 years of

doing this, it sounded like a voice

changer to me. And the reason why it

sounded like a voice changer is because

it all had to do with pitch. And for

those of you at home, real simple, pitch

is how high or how low your voice can

go. And that's real easy to change.


Law & Crime's Jesse Weber @jessecordweber examines a suspicious 911 call related to singer D4vd’s swatting incident, amid scrutiny over dismembered remains found in a Tesla registered to him.

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[10ofRods]

I am very hopeful that this case will be solved, probably through the interrogation room. Whether there will ever be a trial and conviction, not so sure, but I am guessing *some* charges will be brought.

I wanted to mention that "Shhh" tattoo (which apparently both CRH and D4vd have? Have I got that right?)

Anyway, it's the kind of thing that I can see him trying to remind her, many times. Saying "Shhh" to her when she is talking and revealing that she is actually an 11-12-13 year old with no parents or family. Out roaming around in the pop music underground. They make a vow together to never mention her age or for her to stop chattering so much, and she can't keep it, so they get the tattoos.

She was 11 and he was 16 when they began to cohabit, from my memory. I think she was 10 when she first encountered him online. My impression of today's youth (most of my students are 18-21) is that they seem really young, mentally. Especially when compared to historic accounts 16 year olds in the 1930's. So many of my family members were on their own or married by 16 or 17. The handwriting of today's late teens often looks quite childlike. So many people I knew moved out and were on their own at 18 (including me).

In short, these two were both kids when they met. She was still 14 when she disappeared from view (possibly as early as July, maybe even earlier). Had she become too much of a liability for him? While he claims to still think like a 13 year old, at 20, he likely was beginning to understand the idea of "consequences." Somebody, somewhere (perhaps his brother) know way way more details about their interpersonal dynamics and about the reasons that Celeste was found dead in the trunk of D4vd's Tesla.

IMO

 

[flowershop]

RIP Celeste.

https://www.newsnationnow.com/crime/celeste-rivas-hernandez-funeral/

 

[HinterlandObserver]

Timestamp 0:00
So, what's going on?

Um, I heard like some like gunshots.

Okay. How close to your residence were

they?

They were like right outside my house

and I think someone's dead.

We've talked about how D4vd's parents

seem to be the victims of a swatting

incident as police investigate the death

of a young girl found in the singer's

car. But right now, we have the audio of

the person calling in that apparent fake

report to D4vd's parents' home. And as

we think about, is D4vd being targeted?

Is someone framing or harassing him? Was

this person hiding their voice on the

call? Let's find out when we bring on a

forensic audio expert. Welcome to

Sidebar, presented by Law and Crime. I'm

Jesse Weber.

Okay, so we're exploring another

strange, weird aspect of this whole

investigation into the death of

14-year-old Celeste Rivas Hernandez. As

we know, her body was found in the trunk

of a car out in LA that was registered

to viral singer 20-year-old D4vd. Her

decomposed body was found in this car

that was towed to a Hollywood tow yard.

And as we have covered extensively right

now, there are no arrests. There are no

named or identified suspects or persons

of interest.


Timestamp 8:13
Let me just back up one second. Putting

aside from the fact of, you know, the

source of it, where it came from, the

fact it was published on, you know, the

internet, now everybody hears it. Just

to be clear about something, when you're

listening to that recording, are you

suggesting a it is a real life person

using a piece of technology to mask

their true voice or is this AI

generated?

Well, it could be either, but just from

my experience and, you know, 30 years of

doing this, it sounded like a voice

changer to me. And the reason why it

sounded like a voice changer is because

it all had to do with pitch. And for

those of you at home, real simple, pitch

is how high or how low your voice can

go. And that's real easy to change.


Law & Crime's Jesse Weber @jessecordweber examines a suspicious 911 call related to singer D4vd’s swatting incident, amid scrutiny over dismembered remains found in a Tesla registered to him.

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If I was police I would be checking out who the neighbours were.. if one would need access to the property to make a fake SWAT call to police. Wouldn't be ironic if they shared a name with a person of interest in the case. Could even be a female with that pitch changer. IMOO.

 

[10ofRods]

My concern is that time might have unfortunately been on the suspects side on this one.

They probably are pretty confident on what day she died, because (I imagine) within the coroners estimated timeframe, the Tesla registered the frunk opening and closing, likely for the last time.

With D4vds very public tour schedule, they know whether he was in L.A when she died.

Beyond that though, if, as we suspect, she was put in the car over a month before the body was found, then that's going to unfortunately limit CCTV opportunities. In my experience, most (not all) commercial, professional private and local government continuous CCTV overwrites itself monthly (unless saved.) For video doorbells it can be 1-7 days. Otherwise activated CCTV can last longer (depending how often it's triggered.) High Def video files are big and systems have only so much memory capacity.

In the same way, I doubt the parked Tesla stores security CCTV footage long if at all, unless the car registers interfere/damage. If the perps had the keys, (or hopefully used the app) I doubt any recording made were saved a month later. (Happy to be corrected by someone more familiar with this Tesla. I am guessing)

TLDR, there could have been cameras all over that would have captured any movements too, from and around that Tesla. Does not mean that footage still exists unfortunately.

I hope they went straight to where the car was towed from and asked for/pulled all footage from cameras on the street, but investigation delays, processing the Tesla data etc or just time already elapsed might mean they missed the chance to save that evidence.

DNA will be another factor. D4vd can likely explain away DNA in his car and even on Celeste who was in his car a month. May be much harder to explain anyone else's they find.

Speculation obviously.

Oh, I wish I shared your confidence on them getting to Day Of for her death. I think they certainly have it narrowed down to a window, but I think the window could be as long as a week or 10 days. A lot depends on what they can get from the Tesla's computer. And, as you say, the cameras in the neighborhood.

The snag comes from trying to decide whether, if they have an idea of when the trunk was last opened (or even video of a body sized bundle being put into the trunk) that this indicates day of death. She could have been hidden elsewhere for some time. All kinds of things could have occurred between her time of death and her disposition into the trunk. That being said, she certainly wouldn't have been in a closet in the house or anything like that - but she could have been in a now-disappeared fridge or freezer somewhere in that house.

I personally do not think they have any video of the body being carried to the Tesla (there'd have been arrests by now, IMO - unless of course, someone has talked and they're protecting that person so far).

If they have multiple "trunk opening" events over a period of time, how would they know which of those times was the body disposition time? She could have been in that trunk during a period in which the Tesla was moved several times, as horrific as that sounds. There's a lot to unravel and many different forensic personnel have to be involved and all the data correlated. She could have been killed/died elsewhere and transported home in the Tesla (explaining why the house wasn't declared a crime scene).

If her placement into the trunk took place more than 30 days before her body was found, many home security systems will have written over the data.

I think it's even possible that the perpetrators knew this and kept moving the car, to avoid tickets, cops and towing, until the 30 days were up.

All SPECULATION and therefore, JMO.

 

[mickey2942]

An anthropologist and a philosopher, the conversations in your home must get very interesting indeed

Thank you for sharing this with me. Forensic science fascinates me, though as an ND person I sadly have never had the concentration span to study for a profession.

For the record I do too. Believe in the spirit as a seperate entity to the physical. Although I have never experienced anything myself I too have heard stories from people I know and trust which cannot be explained with our current knowledge.

We are more than the sum of our parts.

Thanks again

This has always fascinated me, how random dead bodies are found, as if the spirit is somehow still around the body, pulling a person to find it. An example of this is Caylee Anthony, her body was in a swamp, off a road, and Ray Kronk happened to stop at that exact spot, and have to relive himself right there? The likelihood of that happening is infinitesimal.

Same with this, how was Celeste's body found on this date? Not before, but was found. Something created a situation that Celeste's body was found. I have been in tow yards, most are extremely rank, with a myriad of smells, usually they are located next to highways. And the vehicle was there a few days before anyone identified a smell at that car.

Anyway, just a weird theory...

 

[Telltale]

Oh, I wish I shared your confidence on them getting to Day Of for her death. I think they certainly have it narrowed down to a window, but I think the window could be as long as a week or 10 days. A lot depends on what they can get from the Tesla's computer. And, as you say, the cameras in the neighborhood.

The snag comes from trying to decide whether, if they have an idea of when the trunk was last opened (or even video of a body sized bundle being put into the trunk) that this indicates day of death. She could have been hidden elsewhere for some time. All kinds of things could have occurred between her time of death and her disposition into the trunk. That being said, she certainly wouldn't have been in a closet in the house or anything like that - but she could have been in a now-disappeared fridge or freezer somewhere in that house.

I personally do not think they have any video of the body being carried to the Tesla (there'd have been arrests by now, IMO - unless of course, someone has talked and they're protecting that person so far).

If they have multiple "trunk opening" events over a period of time, how would they know which of those times was the body disposition time? She could have been in that trunk during a period in which the Tesla was moved several times, as horrific as that sounds. There's a lot to unravel and many different forensic personnel have to be involved and all the data correlated. She could have been killed/died elsewhere and transported home in the Tesla (explaining why the house wasn't declared a crime scene).

If her placement into the trunk took place more than 30 days before her body was found, many home security systems will have written over the data.

I think it's even possible that the perpetrators knew this and kept moving the car, to avoid tickets, cops and towing, until the 30 days were up.

All SPECULATION and therefore, JMO.

They cannot be perfectly sure of course, at least not unless they have proof of life up to the day that included last time the trunk was opened.

The reason I think she was put in there the day she died - and it was the last time that trunk was opened, is because it's a crappy risky place to stash a body longterm. It screams panicked temporary solution/buying time.

If she been in a freezer, then why would they move her from there to the hot frunk of a street parked car? She's far more likely to be found and (assuming her death is connected to D4vd,) it still linked directly to him. Nobody is going to move an already decomposing body to a street parked car - even if she was intact, the smell issue would be too obvious.

I think it will be the last time anyone interacted with that car is because reopening the frunk on the street, or driving around with expired regs and a dead body would be insane. Only reason to risk it would be to dump the body. Which nobody did.

I suspect the car has been shuffled around occasionally since it's regs expired in January (prompted by the two February tickets). Maybe some of his (or her) dumbass friends were driving it occasionally. (Doesn't seem like he was.) Either, Celeste died/was killed out somewhere, they'd driven it too, they put her in the frunk, drove it back, dumped it and ran. Or she died/was killed in the house and D4vd/whoever had a very limited window to deal with it. House had too much traffic to leave her inside, and the car was the closest lockable place nobody would disturb for a while.

Either way, I feel like it wasn't moved at all after she was put in it. The Tesla was reported as abandoned on the 27th August. According to Steve Fischer neighbours said it had been in that spot at least a month and there were no parking restrictions on the road.

Speculation obviously

 

[Lusitana]

The fact that no statement has been released on his behalf makes me think that there is at least some culpability on his side, even if he didn't murder her.

 

[arielilane]

The fact that no statement has been released on his behalf makes me think that there is at least some culpability on his side, even if he didn't murder her.

It is interesting that no comment has been made at this time. I dont know what to think about that. Probably best not to say anything. jmo