CA- Body (IDd as Celeste Rivas Hernandez) found in vehicle at Hollywood tow yard, abandoned Tesla registered to singer D4vd – 8 September 2025 #2

  • #441
From my understanding, freezing a body effectively prevents/stops decomposition. You could keep it in a freezer for years and it would be (almost) perfectly preserved. So if Celeste was really found both 'partially frozen' AND 'severely decomposed', with a smell strong enough to alert the workers at the tow yard, that seems to imply her body was only put in a freezer weeks after her death, only to then be taken out and put in the Tesla shortly before it was found. Or am I missing something here?
 
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  • #443
Oh sheeet nevermind then.

Damn, I dismissed the idea she'd been frozen, because if you were organised and motivated enough to process and freeze/store her body for weeks/months. Why the heII would you then take her out of wherever she was and stash her in your car, parked on your street, outside your house. While you ponced off on a multi month tour?

We know they had, at absolute minimum, 10+ hours between the car being parked in its final location and the tour bus leaving. They really couldn't fit in disposing of her? Or at least hiding her somewhere less public before they left?

I really need to know the reasoning (if any) behind her being left in the Tesla, or what went sideways with their plan, because at this point I got nothing.

MOO
Yikes on the most recent revelations…… And reading the latest, IMO perhaps someone with the most to loose in this matter had either requested or suggested to another / other individual(s) what to do. And perhaps someone either refused, balked, or did not do as instructed.

And not at all directed at you specifically @Telltale …… and as others have indicated or alluded, trying to ascribe logic or rationale behavior or motivation in such cases is not typically practical.

Will be interesting to see how this develops. And whether one or more individuals is charged, and when and with what. And then to see what transpires and how. Some might have to decide whether they want to be a suspect, defendant, or witness for the prosecution. IANAL. MOO
 
  • #444
Does anyone know if a medical examiner can detect that a body was previously frozen after it has completely thawed to room temperature?

From what I’ve read, it seems this fact was mentioned for the purpose of explaining why the medical examiner will be unable to determine cause of death, rather than for the purpose of helping to establish a timeline.

In which case, I wonder if someone just used the tense “were” when they should have instead used “had been” (with respect to the frozen body parts)? Still would leave a lot of unanswered questions, but it would leave open the timeline of when she was put in the car. Would a still partially frozen body even smell?
 
  • #445
Does anyone know if a medical examiner can detect that a body was previously frozen after it has completely thawed to room temperature?

From what I’ve read, it seems this fact was mentioned for the purpose of explaining why the medical examiner will be unable to determine cause of death, rather than for the purpose of helping to establish a timeline.

In which case, I wonder if someone just used the tense “were” when they should have instead used “had been” (with respect to the frozen body parts)? Still would leave a lot of unanswered questions, but it would leave open the timeline of when she was put in the car. Would a still partially frozen body even smell?
Yes, they can tell, because ice crystals form in tissues and create damage that can be seen under a microscope.

MOO
 
  • #446
Yes, they can tell, because ice crystals form in tissues and create damage that can be seen under a microscope.

MOO

Would that tissue damage hinder the determination of cause of death?
 
  • #447
Comment only, this poor girl! So young and mom where was she? Dad? I get runaway and I did runaway too. Bad Family. But this is so awful.. OD? or some crazy stuff. What happened!
 
  • #448
In which case, I wonder if someone just used the tense “were” when they should have instead used “had been” (with respect to the frozen body parts)?

After re-reading the article on TMZ, I'm actually not sure if it's saying the body was still partially frozen when it was found, OR that it had been frozen at some point after death, long before it was found. It could be because English is not my first language, but the wording really isn't clear to me:

'Celeste Rivas's body had been frozen (...) the medical examiner received the body in horrendous condition ... it was decapitated, and, while the torso was intact, the limbs had been removed and cut into multiple pieces. We're told all of the body parts were "partially frozen" ... and had, apparently, been thawing out while sitting in the trunk of D4vd's Tesla.'
 
  • #449
They won't be able to figure out the cause of death so DAB and associate/s will go with the accidental overdose and panic defense and only get charged with desecrating a corpse and/or preventing a lawful burial or whatever the equivalent charges are in the US. JMT/JMO
 
  • #450
They won't be able to figure out the cause of death so DAB and associate/s will go with the accidental overdose and panic defense and only get charged with desecrating a corpse and/or preventing a lawful burial or whatever the equivalent charges are in the US. JMT/JMO
Team David have hired the best possible legal team for this... from what has been released to the public so far (frozen at one point, spring drive to Santa Barbara, toxicology and autopsy coming up inconclusive, no bloody weapon announced, no dna link announced).... then this is entirely possible and I wouldn't be surprised if this is what it all boils down to.

The role of TMZ in this is very interesting.

2 months ago... they were throwing around terms like "torso" and "human remains". And then they gradually downplayed that description and started saying "body".

As for frozen/partially frozen....
I think the idea is it was frozen at one point and ME office figured that part out, which allowd LE to push back the possible date of actual death to months ago. Not weeks ago. It was sweltering in LA for most of July / August 2025 especially in the Hollywood Hills when the car was moved on July 29th. The pieces of her body could not be frozen when discovered in September in the car. MOO
 
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The freezing not so much, the dismemberment absolutely.
To be honest, the decomposition is probably going to be the biggest factor, especially if her death was not caused by something that left sign on her bones. Something like suffocation, for example.

The dismemberment, if not done just for the fun of it, was probably to portion her into small enough pieces to fit in the freezer, then the car trunk. Bodies in rigor and bodies that are frozen are both rigid and unwieldy.

MOO
 
  • #453
Any chance CRH was forced into a freezer of some type while still alive, causing her death? speculation, imo.
Nov 23, 2025
More than two months after the body of 14-year-old Celeste Rivas Hernandez was discovered partially dismembered in a vehicle, new details reveal her body was reportedly found partially frozen.
 
  • #454
They won't be able to figure out the cause of death so DAB and associate/s will go with the accidental overdose and panic defense and only get charged with desecrating a corpse and/or preventing a lawful burial or whatever the equivalent charges are in the US. JMT/JMO
I think that they'll still have tissue suitable for tox testing. They had enough to identify a tattoo.

Remember that they were able to do tox testing on Tylee Ryan, and her body was almost completely burned and fragmented.

Celeste's body has not been dismembered anywhere as severely as Tylee's, and yes, while it did decompose in a hot car, it potentially spent months frozen before that, so it isn't as decomposed as it would be had it been in the car the whole time.

MOO
 
  • #455
After re-reading the article on TMZ, I'm actually not sure if it's saying the body was still partially frozen when it was found, OR that it had been frozen at some point after death, long before it was found. It could be because English is not my first language, but the wording really isn't clear to me:

'Celeste Rivas's body had been frozen (...) the medical examiner received the body in horrendous condition ... it was decapitated, and, while the torso was intact, the limbs had been removed and cut into multiple pieces. We're told all of the body parts were "partially frozen" ... and had, apparently, been thawing out while sitting in the trunk of D4vd's Tesla.'
English is my only language and I'm understanding it the same way. It seems it was partially frozen when found. Because I don't think they'd have a way of knowing if it was partially frozen, and then taken out of the freezer before fully frozen. I could be wrong but doubt science has a way of knowing if meat had only been partially frozen, and not completely frozen before removal from the freezer.
 
  • #456
After re-reading the article on TMZ, I'm actually not sure if it's saying the body was still partially frozen when it was found, OR that it had been frozen at some point after death, long before it was found. It could be because English is not my first language, but the wording really isn't clear to me:

'Celeste Rivas's body had been frozen (...) the medical examiner received the body in horrendous condition ... it was decapitated, and, while the torso was intact, the limbs had been removed and cut into multiple pieces. We're told all of the body parts were "partially frozen" ... and had, apparently, been thawing out while sitting in the trunk of D4vd's Tesla.'
One thing that came to mind about her body being partially frozen (when found, I'm assuming)... is that that would be the reason no on noticed the smell of death when passing by the car parked on the street, and perhaps it was also the reason they periodically moved the car. 1) to not get it towed, and 2) to periodically run the AC to keep the temp lowered and slow down the thawing.

I can't confirm that as I don't have a fine and detailed timeline of the car movements and other pieces of the puzzle (where d4vd was at various times). But it sure would be interesting to know.
 
  • #457
English is my only language and I'm understanding it the same way. It seems it was partially frozen when found. Because I don't think they'd have a way of knowing if it was partially frozen, and then taken out of the freezer before fully frozen. I could be wrong but doubt science has a way of knowing if meat had only been partially frozen, and not completely frozen before removal from the freezer.
They would - by tissue damage.

Water in tissue freezes and creates ice crystals that damage the tissues when they form, because ice expands.

If that tissue damage was only in the outer layers of her tissues, then they'd be able to guess her body wasn't fully frozen.

MOO
 
  • #458
I think now is a good time to revisit the size of the Model Y frunk.

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A : 35 cm or 13.8 inches

B: 70 cm or 27.6 inches

C: 43 cm or 16.9 inches

D: 91 cm or 35.8 inches

E: 35 cm or 13.8 inches

 
  • #459
Wow. I'm speechless at the recent updates. Nothing in this case makes sense. If accidental OD why the dismemberment? They could of just dumped her somewhere and claimed she'd been living on streets and OD'd and had nothing to do with DAB.

IMO this is definitely a homicide. I think DAB had enough of celeste and tried to break up with her and I wonder if she threatened to tell everyone the true nature of their relationship so he had to get rid of her and sadly he knew no one would come looking for her. From the video of her rowing with neighbours I get the feeling she probably quite fiery and would not have gone quietly...teenage girls emotions can be extremely heightened.

The freezing part is baffling, to keep her for that many months in pieces in a freezer is horrific. I can't get my head around the parts being partially frozen when found in tow yard, as after that many weeks surely she would of thawed by then?

I think the SB trip was an attempt to bury her somewhere remote but for some reason that plan was abandoned. Maybe they remembered about the tracking of the Tesla and if police looked into it, would've led them straight to where she was buried.

The PI SF mentioned there being "farm equipment that you could use to get rid of a body" being found at the house. I hate that I'm even writing this about a 13 year old girl (I really hope she is resting in peace now) but I wonder if the freezing was to make less mess if using farm equipment (maybe meat grinder) as the blood & tissues would be frozen solid... But then why leave her in the trunk on the side of the road?

I think more than one person involved, possibly several others and they are all making bad decisions and not really knowing what to do with her. One thing I do know is that celeste deserves justice 100%. I also think her being found the day after what should have been her birthday is very poignant.

RIP Celeste, you deserved so much better than this
 
  • #460
Wow. I'm speechless at the recent updates. Nothing in this case makes sense. If accidental OD why the dismemberment?
My simple answer? Because gore was like p or n to him. His words, not mine! Found if you search his reddit r/d4vd for the words p or n and gore and look for the post that just says 'wow...' in the header... then you've found it.
 

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