CA CA - Bryce Laspisa, 19, Castaic, 30 Aug 2013 - #8

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  • #61
Thank you for your words of wisdom and knowledge - I very much appreciate them. My son doesn't get out for a couple more years (he also joined at 19) but plans on following in his dad and grandpa's footsteps and become a firefighter.

Thank you to your husband and YOU for your sacrifices and service. It's a family affair :)

Your son's service is appreciated. When war isn't raging (and I mean raging as we always have service members serving in dangerous positions somewhere), our appreciation of our military personnel isn't expressed as often or as loudly.
My husband joined when he was 19 years old. He did it after working an all night factory job while trying to put himself through his first year of college. The draft was still active back then and he had a number, but he enlisted in order to possibly have more influence over his placement. He couldn't work full-time and attend college too so he decided to try to become a pilot (which he accomplished).
Anyway, I didn't meet him until he had already served for sixteen years and spent seventeen additional years along with him as an army wife. Although, not my son, still very daunting times when he was deployed, whisked away quickly, dealt with all kinds of issues related to fellow wives and army life in general.

It's good you brought the subject up, because our soldiers (out of habit - sailors, airmen, etc.) really need the support of citizens behind them. Sometimes they may feel they don't have it. Then, for one person, I don't know . . . perspective is something to think about.

Hang in there though. Upon his return, encourage him to seek out opportunities. Specifically, suggest that he thinks about and applies for any opportunity the service offers that interests him. Other than serving his country, which no one can take away from him, he'll get something (education or skill) in return if he goes after it. Point out that he has to be proactive and put effort into finding out about existing opportunities. That's what my husband did. Today, opportunities exist but not every soldier steps up to claim them.
 
  • #62
Since it was 40 days, maybe he found out he wasn't going to be able to pay the rent. Bryce disappeared August 30th, the end of the month. The rent might have been paid for September. But he would know in September if Bryce's parents weren't paying for October. Thus he said on Twitter he was moving. He might have known on September 1st he wasn't going to get anymore rent out of Bryce's parents until he was found. KWIM?

But how did anyone know he wouldn't show up in a few days? That just seems rather premature to me. Also I would think the apt company would make an exception based on the circumstances for notice? I know when my friend was beat up by her ex-husband the complex she lived in allowed her to break her lease and make the moves she needed to make. (He moved out prior to the incident).

When I bring up OCT. 9th is because that was straight from SD himself on Twitter or FB it's in thread 1 I believe here. He also talked about moving to NY those seem like big plans IMO just after recently moving into this new place. IIRC it was the following week he posted that on one of the social media sites.
 
  • #63
Again I Wonder Why Bryce's ex-roomie say in the media interview that when he found out Bryce was missing he tried to phone him..... he phoned Bryce a few hours after the car crash ...
Bryce was not missing then.....his Mum only found out at 8am about the crash???
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from Dragracerz "I also saw somewhere that nick (his old roommate) said he tried calling Bryce when Bryce was driving home - But Nick actually called late Friday morning, a few hours after the car was discovered crashed"
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Unless Nick heard about Bryce being missing the first time from BL's friends,GF?...but then again Bryce must have only been missing for a few hours the first time...(the time Christian done the 2nd check 4pm-5pm ish until 7.16pm police report).....
surely the word would have been out that Bryce was ok after the wellbeing police check.........maybe his friends forgot to update Nick?
 
  • #64
Can someone answer a simple question? Someone who has been near Castaic lake at night.
I've asked this question at least two times previously.
Are there lights surrounding the lake? Lots of them spotted all around the area of lake and beyond?
 
  • #65
Again I Wonder Why Bryce's ex-roomie say in the media interview that when he found out Bryce was missing he tried to phone him..... he phoned Bryce a few hours after the car crash ...
Bryce was not missing then.....his Mum only found out at 8am about the crash???
Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - CA CA - Bryce Laspisa, 19, Castaic, 30 Aug 2013 - #1

from Dragracerz "I also saw somewhere that nick (his old roommate) said he tried calling Bryce when Bryce was driving home - But Nick actually called late Friday morning, a few hours after the car was discovered crashed"
Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - CA CA - Bryce Laspisa, 19, Castaic, 30 Aug 2013 - #1

Unless Nick heard about Bryce being missing the first time from BL's friends,GF?...but then again Bryce must have only been missing for a few hours the first time...(the time Christian done the 2nd check 4pm-5pm ish until 7.16pm police report).....
surely the word would have been out that Bryce was ok after the wellbeing police check.........maybe his friends forgot to update Nick?

Maybe missing in that he had said he was going back to his apartment when his keys were returned and then was not there? If he said that.
 
  • #66
Bryce's roommate is not a suspect or POI. We will not discuss him as though he is. If you wish to not believe what he has stated in MSM, that's fine but we will not pick it apart here.

Additionally, we need to tighten our focus on Bryce. For the folks that have spent their time and money looking for him, may you be blessed by God for your thoughtfulness. You didn't do it for thanks or for a reward, so please do not complain about it in the thread or express unrealistic expectations from a grieving family.
 
  • #67
Like the whole world? Just the northern hemisphere?
Imo if anybody knows where he is and allows a search to continue that involves resources that could be used elsewhere, isn't a fair and giving person theirself.
That is why, when people suggest that they earnestly believe that B is safe somewhere but just not ready to come out, their statement throws a big kink in the search effort machinery.

If true, I'd resent it if I was spending time and money physically searching.

Woe, I don't really quite know how to respond to that...all I know is the more it is determined where he isn't , the odds increase as to finding where he is. And my personal opinion is that working out from the accident scene may find him.....or perhaps will be instrumental in aiding to increase those odds.

In my very humble opinion, I do think that if anyone has any information that might indicate that Bryce has indeed left the Castaic Lake area, they should make contact with his parents. I believe they can do so through the FB page for Bryce, or some may possibly have other means to do so.
They should do so politely, and present their info in a logical, well thought out manner, and be willing to provide their contact info, and even that of anyone else they know is aware of the same info.
And when and if they do....expect nothing in return, except knowing they 'did the right thing'. Doesn't need to be talked about or alluded to on here, or FB, or any other social forum....just do it .

Now, where is Bryce?
 
  • #68
I apologise wholeheartedly for my last post.....did not mean to pick on anyone.
 
  • #69
But how did anyone know he wouldn't show up in a few days? That just seems rather premature to me. Also I would think the apt company would make an exception based on the circumstances for notice? I know when my friend was beat up by her ex-husband the complex she lived in allowed her to break her lease and make the moves she needed to make. (He moved out prior to the incident).

When I bring up OCT. 9th is because that was straight from SD himself on Twitter or FB it's in thread 1 I believe here. He also talked about moving to NY those seem like big plans IMO just after recently moving into this new place. IIRC it was the following week he posted that on one of the social media sites.

What was the DATE he tweeted that? Was that days after Bryce disappeared??

With Bryce being gone, there were bigger fish for him to fry then going directly back to college. He was missing. He could be injured, he missed several classes at the beginning of the year and would be behind. With Bryce missing everything else is an unknown. I'm sure had he reappeared within weeks, his parents would have wanted him home, not resuming life as usual right after getting back. I don't see them wanting to let him go anywhere to start with, just wanting to spend time with him.

I'd like to know the DAYS you are referring to. Because if I remember correctly it was weeks after Bryce disappeared that his roomie tweeted he was moving. Maybe 3 or 4?
 
  • #70
Can someone answer a simple question? Someone who has been near Castaic lake at night.
I've asked this question at least two times previously.
Are there lights surrounding the lake? Lots of them spotted all around the area of lake and beyond?

Up lake Hughes road and in the lower lagoon area has lights. But there are no lights around the lake itself. However if there is no overcast and the moon is shining you can have pretty good visibility
 
  • #71
What was the DATE he tweeted that? Was that days after Bryce disappeared??

With Bryce being gone, there were bigger fish for him to fry then going directly back to college. He was missing. He could be injured, he missed several classes at the beginning of the year and would be behind. With Bryce missing everything else is an unknown. I'm sure had he reappeared within weeks, his parents would have wanted him home, not resuming life as usual right after getting back. I don't see them wanting to let him go anywhere to start with, just wanting to spend time with him.

I'd like to know the DAYS you are referring to. Because if I remember correctly it was weeks after Bryce disappeared that his roomie tweeted he was moving. Maybe 3 or 4?

Nope don't remember but it was within the first week because at the command post it was discussed. But it was in the first thread and the tweet itself was removed. It was odd so that's why it was brought up. Which I wonder if it was planned before hand and part of what Bryce wanted to talk to his mom about. Maybe moving home was something Bryce wanted to do? Who knows. SD is a POI nor am I insinuating he is. Just saying it seemed odd and trying to figure out how Bryce was feeling up to the point he disappeared. If moving was on the agenda before hand maybe that could be a stresser as well
 
  • #72
Wasn't Bryce's parents just there the weekend before he disappeared to move him in?? So when he disappeared on that Wednesday/Thursday, he'd gone to two classes and in that time you think he and his roomie decided to move already? That's like 3 or 4 days of school. What could happen in those days that changed where he was going to live as he went to college?? Along with getting a new video game, breaking up with his girlfriend twice, taking Vyvanse? Wow. Sounds like he was a busy boy.

Wish I knew the date the roomie posted that on Twitter. I remember it being longer than the first week of Bryce's disappearance.
 
  • #73
Wasn't Bryce's parents just there the weekend before he disappeared to move him in?? So when he disappeared on that Wednesday/Thursday, he'd gone to two classes and in that time you think he and his roomie decided to move already? That's like 3 or 4 days of school. What could happen in those days that changed where he was going to live as he went to college?? Along with getting a new video game, breaking up with his girlfriend twice, taking Vyvanse? Wow. Sounds like he was a busy boy.

Wish I knew the date the roomie posted that on Twitter. I remember it being longer than the first week of Bryce's disappearance.

I don't know if they decided to move I'm just asking a question. Just seems that he had a lot in his plate and that could be an added stresser. But not sure if you are being sarcastic about the video game thing and taking drugs and breaking up with his GF. I would assume buying a video game and taking drugs were not as busy as you portray them to be. School and breaking up with his GF seem to be stressers
 
  • #74
Hey Riverking21, do you have access to a boat to get in upper Castaic Lake or know someone that is on it frequently?

Or anyone reading here for that matter.

I need someone to do a field trip of sorts....check a spot out for me.
 
  • #75
For me and most people I knew, being away at college, living in a dorm, was like heaven. When did college become such a huge source of stress? Especially a two-year school? Where is all of this pressure coming from, parents? Or do they put it on themselves? I got good grades and went to all of my classes, but it is was the most fun time of my life. I wonder if kids are too protected/pampered/fussed over these days and going away becomes a huge shock to them. I mean, we graduated high school and either got a job or went to college. I know the job market is different, but other generations have gone through horrible economic times and yet it seems like young people are often less able to handle things now than ever, at least to me.

Just wondering when college stopped being exciting and fun and instead cause so many students to seem to go into tailspins. (Not saying Bryce went into a "tailspin", just in general and just my opinion.)

JMO
 
  • #76
Hey Riverking21, do you have access to a boat to get in upper Castaic Lake or know someone that is on it frequently?

Or anyone reading here for that matter.

I need someone to do a field trip of sorts....check a spot out for me.

Boats been winterized. We did a lake search after they completed the dive search at the upper lake. What part you looking at? Also there is a Camera system in the water itself just an FYI and it's monitored everyday. I know this because our buddies are the Sheriffs that patrol the lake
 
  • #77
For me and most people I knew, being away at college, living in a dorm, was like heaven. When did college become such a huge source of stress? Especially a two-year school? Where is all of this pressure coming from, parents? Or do they put it on themselves? I got good grades and went to all of my classes, but it is was the most fun time of my life. I wonder if kids are too protected/pampered/fussed over these days and going away becomes a huge shock to them. I mean, we graduated high school and either got a job or went to college. I know the job market is different, but other generations have gone through horrible economic times and yet it seems like young people are often less able to handle things now than ever, at least to me.

Just wondering when college stopped being exciting and fun and instead cause so many students to seem to go into tailspins. (Not saying Bryce went into a "tailspin", just in general and just my opinion.)

JMO

The only thing I can think of is the pressure to finish and once done to actually land a job. Maybe he had some friends who recently graduated and struggled getting work? It's pretty tough out there right now.
 
  • #78
Oh hey Riverking! Winterized?? Isn't that sunny California??
Nope not in the lake , a place on shore. See I like maps and I kinda got this love affair going on with Google Earth ya see. Anywho there is this place along the shore that I keep staring at wondering if our dear Bryce could have made it over. I mean if he was able to be walking along the shore down from his wreck there on Main Ramp rd. that is.
Hun, you know anything about how to look at those little ole coordinates on google map? I sure could use some help from you or your buddies:)


really, I am serious
 
  • #79
http://www.wimp.com/scarything/

Completely off topic, but you can't help but laugh, and I think everyone could use that right now.

So cute!

For me and most people I knew, being away at college, living in a dorm, was like heaven. When did college become such a huge source of stress? Especially a two-year school? Where is all of this pressure coming from, parents? Or do they put it on themselves? I got good grades and went to all of my classes, but it is was the most fun time of my life. I wonder if kids are too protected/pampered/fussed over these days and going away becomes a huge shock to them. I mean, we graduated high school and either got a job or went to college. I know the job market is different, but other generations have gone through horrible economic times and yet it seems like young people are often less able to handle things now than ever, at least to me.

Just wondering when college stopped being exciting and fun and instead cause so many students to seem to go into tailspins. (Not saying Bryce went into a "tailspin", just in general and just my opinion.)

JMO

Apparently, this is a very stressed generation:

“Millennials [those ages 18 to 33] are growing up at a tough time,” Mike Hais, a market researcher and co-author of two books on that generation, including Millennial Momentum, told USA Today. “They were sheltered in many ways, with a lot of high expectations for what they should achieve. Individual failure is difficult to accept when confronted with a sense you’re an important person and expected to achieve.”
Millennial Characteristics

The Millennials, also known as generation Y, are those born after 1982 (Atkinson, 2004).
Howe & Strauss (2000) paints a clear picture of Millennials in the book, Millennials Rising: The Next Generation. At 39%, this cohort is more ethnically diverse than either the Boomer or Generation X (Weston, 2006). Household income is higher, driven in large part by the fact that both parents are working. Families are smaller, with a median of one sibling and parents who waited until they were older to start having children. Millennial parents are also more educated. The percentage of parents holding a degree increased from 26% in 1973 to 42.5% in 1998 (Howe & Strauss, 2000). Millennials are unlike any previous generation of youth to hit the American scene in that they are more numerous and affluent, better educated and more ethnically diverse (Howe & Strauss, 2000). They demonstrate positive social habits that older Americans have often not associated with youth, such as habits of teamwork, achievement, modesty, and good conduct. However, with all these positive attributes, the Millennials also have distinct negative attributes that impact their stressors and coping mechanisms, such as being over scheduled, heavily monitored, and pressured to excel academically (McGlynn, 2008).

High Achievement

The Millennials face a great deal of stress regarding their education. According to Howe and Strauss (2000), the Millennials are the first generation since 1945 to face a more stringent set of academic standards than the generation before it. Students know they have to succeed in high school if they want to get into college or university, a fact that is often reinforced by parents, the media, and the school system. Going to college is no longer reserved for the elite, it is the norm. Today 64% of women and 60% of men go to college after graduating from high school and 85% attend fulltime (NAS, 2006). Furthermore, Millennial students report the two greatest worries are grades and college admission compared to AIDS and violent crime 10 years ago or nuclear war 20 years ago (Howe & Strauss, 2000).


Millennials and Stress

Millennial students are challenged by the transition to college. The adaptation to a new social situation with the sudden loss of supervision or structure can leave one floundering (Missouri AHEAD, 2007). This sudden change removes most of their stress coping mechanisms they previously relied upon. Combine these challenges with the Millennial's search for identity, autonomy, and purpose, creates an incredible amount of pressure and stress (Donnelly et al, 2001).

Conclusions: Coping mechanisms and lifestyle habits currently employed by the millennial college students are not only ineffective for alleviating stress, but also putting these students at risk for low stress tolerance.

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/article/College-Student-Journal/297135954.html
(WAY more at link).
 
  • #80
Oh hey Riverking! Winterized?? Isn't that sunny California??
Nope not in the lake , a place on shore. See I like maps and I kinda got this love affair going on with Google Earth ya see. Anywho there is this place along the shore that I keep staring at wondering if our dear Bryce could have made it over. I mean if he was able to be walking along the shore down from his wreck there on Main Ramp rd. that is.
Hun, you know anything about how to look at those little ole coordinates on google map? I sure could use some help from you or your buddies:)


really, I am serious

Yes but it's still considered high desert here so it does get cold so once the season is over I drain everything and tuck it away in blankets in the garage.

Is it the lower lake or upper lake? We did a shoreline search on the lake had a couple of hikers that checked a few spots. Where on the lake are you looking?
 
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