CA - Christopher Dorner kills 4 in tri-county rampage, Feb 2013 - #1

[Lois Lane]

Property records show that the mother of a former Los Angeles police officer who's the target of a manhunt on a Southern California mountain owns a parcel of land there.

San Bernardino County records show the 2-acre undeveloped parcel, about 35 miles west of Big Bear Lake, is under the name of Christopher Dorner's mother, Nancy.

http://www.wkyt.com/news/national/h...-murder-to-Calif-mountain-town-190493991.html

 

[i.b.nora]

"San Bernardino County records show the 2-acre undeveloped parcel, about 35 miles west of Big Bear Lake, is under the name of Christopher Dorner's mother, Nancy.

County sheriff's spokeswoman Cindy Bachman says authorities are aware of the land and have visited it several times.

She says there's been no sign of Dorner in the area."

http://www.wkyt.com/news/national/h...0493991.html?mobile=yes&device=ipad&site=full

 

[HMSHood]

Christopher Dorner sounds like an injustice collector. All that bottled up anger.

I suspect he is a psychopath.

 

[i.b.nora]

Jinx.

 

[jjenny]

A blog about stolen SA-7s with photos. :shiver:
http://brown-moses.blogspot.com/2012/11/videos-show-complete-complete-sa-7.html
It seems extremely unlikely that Syrian terrorists would allow any of their stolen missiles to disappear. Dorner is bsing unless he personally created one.

I don't know where he could have gotten it. He claims to have it. I wouldn't just assume he is bsing because that could be a big mistake.

 

[LinasK]

"San Bernardino County records show the 2-acre undeveloped parcel, about 35 miles west of Big Bear Lake, is under the name of Christopher Dorner's mother, Nancy.

County sheriff's spokeswoman Cindy Bachman says authorities are aware of the land and have visited it several times.

She says there's been no sign of Dorner in the area."

http://www.wkyt.com/news/national/h...0493991.html?mobile=yes&device=ipad&site=full

Would this be the property in Arrowbear that they've been talking about??

 

[Lois Lane]

Jinx.

:bananalama:

 

[jjenny]

No, but you gave me a thought- he could've held someone hostage to stay at their place...

He certainly could.

 

[i.b.nora]

Would this be the property in Arrowbear that they've been talking about??

I think so.

 

[HMSHood]

Former Police Psychologist Analyzes Christopher Dorner’s Manifesto
http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/loc...-Christopher-Dorners-Manifesto-190306351.html

“It’s hard to put a label on this without knowing him, but what we know is we have a man who is completely out of control who has given up on life, whose self-esteem is tiny. He’s trying to cover it up. [He has] been extraordinarily disappointed and hurt, in his mind, by life,” Dr. Mantell told NBC 7.

For 10 years, Dr. Mantell was the chief psychologist for the San Diego Police Department and then later for all law enforcement in the county.

According to Dr. Mantell, the seeds of anger appear to have been festering inside Dorner for a long time.

“Ultimately, anger is built around the belief that you must treat me the way I insist. So, if I come to you and complain about something, you must take that seriously. After all, I have a good name,” explained Mantell.

“When they don’t, that starts to build anger and when it becomes a psychiatric illness, which is what I believe we are seeing here, that is the kind of demand, insistence and expectation – D.I.E. to the max,” he added.

Interesting analysis. Based on it, he fits the profile of a mass murderer, someone who is smoldering with rage. He shares traits most likely similar to Seung-Hui Cho, James Holmes, and Adam Lanza as they are driven by revenge and bottle up their anger as they feel persecuted. I would not be surprised if he also shares traits similar to Casey Anthony, Lori Drew, and Diane Downs as he has low self-esteem.

 

[AngelWings444]

CARP!!! Listen to scanner. Sighting of Dorner!!!

ETA: Possible.

 

[Hejlena]

Could be this undeveloped two acre parcel of land belonging to mom has been being developed to suit CD's needs. Bunkers? traps?

Also, manifesto my ash. There is nothing heroic or noble about what CD is doing/has done. His writings and history IMO smack of borderline personality disorder. I am not fooled or impressed by his persuasive writing skills. He got smacked around a little by life, so now he's on a killing spree? Folk hero my ash. IMO, CD has been simmering his entire life and is now embroiled in a full-blown narcissistic rage.

 

[Essbee]

CARP!!! Listen to scanner. Sighting of Dorner!!!

ETA: Possible.

Can you tell us where??

 

[AngelWings444]

Can you tell us where??

Link to scanner thread. We can't post stuff up here, from there.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=8831982&posted=1#post8831982

 

[LinasK]

Can you tell us where??

He's still in Big Bear, as I suspected!

 

[HMSHood]

Could be this undeveloped two acre parcel of land belonging to mom has been being developed to suit CD's needs. Bunkers? traps?

Also, manifesto my ash. There is nothing heroic or noble about what CD is doing/has done. His writings and history IMO smack of borderline personality disorder. I am not fooled or impressed by his persuasive writing skills. He got smacked around a little by life, so now he's on a killing spree? Folk hero my ash. IMO, CD has been simmering his entire life and is now embroiled in a full-blown narcissistic rage.

I think you are onto something with Christopher Dorner having Borderline Personality Disorder.

Christopher Dorner was "disturbed" and "twisted," former cop's ex-girlfriend says
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162...d-and-twisted-former-cops-ex-girlfriend-says/

Court documents show an ex-girlfriend of a former Los Angeles police officer suspected of three murders called him "severely emotionally and mentally disturbed" after the two split in 2006.

Documents obtained by The Associated Press on Friday show ex-officer Christopher Dorner unsuccessfully requested a restraining order against his ex-girlfriend after she posted his badge number on a website called Dontdatehimgirl.com.

In the posting, Ariana Williams calls Dorner "twisted" and "super paranoid" and warns other women on the website not to date him.

The manifesto also shows signs of Paranoid Personality Disorder as he harbors grudges. Borderline Personality Disorder can be characterized by paranoia and is a form of narcissism.

Borderline Personality Disorder
A pervasive pattern of instability of interpersonal relationships, self-image, and affects, and marked impulsivity beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following:
(1) frantic efforts to avoid real or imagined abandonment.
Note: Do not include suicidal or self-mutilating behavior covered in Criterion 5.
(2) a pattern of unstable and intense interpersonal relationships characterized by alternating between extremes of idealization and devaluation
(3) identity disturbance: markedly and persistently unstable self-image or sense of self
(4) impulsivity in at least two areas that are potentially self-damaging (e.g., spending, sex, Substance Abuse, reckless driving, binge eating).
Note: Do not include suicidal or self-mutilating behavior covered in Criterion 5.
(5) recurrent suicidal behavior, gestures, or threats, or self-mutilating behavior
(6) affective instability due to a marked reactivity of mood (e.g., intense episodic dysphoria, irritability, or anxiety usually lasting a few hours and only rarely more than a few days)
(7) chronic feelings of emptiness
(8) inappropriate, intense anger or difficulty controlling anger (e.g., frequent displays of temper, constant anger, recurrent physical fights)
(9) transient, stress-related paranoid ideation or severe dissociative symptoms

http://behavenet.com/borderline-personality-disorder

Real Life Examples: Casey Anthony, Lori Drew, Susan Smith


Paranoid Personality Disorder
A pervasive distrust and suspiciousness of others such that their motives are interpreted as malevolent, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by four (or more) of the following:

(1) suspects, without sufficient basis, that others are exploiting, harming, or deceiving him or her
(2) is preoccupied with unjustified doubts about the loyalty or trustworthiness of friends or associates
(3) is reluctant to confide in others because of unwarranted fear that the information will be used maliciously against him or her
(4) reads hidden demeaning or threatening meanings into benign remarks or events
(5) persistently bears grudges, i.e., is unforgiving of insults, injuries, or slights
(6) perceives attacks on his or her character or reputation that are not apparent to others and is quick to react angrily or to counterattack
(7) has recurrent suspicions, without justification, regarding fidelity of spouse or sexual partner

http://www.behavenet.com/paranoid-personality-disorder

Real Life Examples: Osama bin Laden, Charles Manson, Seung-Hui Cho

 

[Hejlena]

I thought I heard in the beginning of this something about Dorner firing from a "shoulder-type" weapon...I remember because immediately my imagination produced for my enjoyment an image of Dormer's finger on one of those walkie talkie things used to call for backup. It was even going, "pew pew". Such a vivid memory- I'm off to find the link. Wait omg I'm looking for a link--I'm no longer a lurker.

 

[katydid23]

No, but you gave me a thought- he could've held someone hostage to stay at their place...

That worries me as well. I think LE is trying to 'clear' every cabin. So they are going door to door and talking to everyone in each home. Hopefully they could pick up on something that was not right---like a killer hiding in the bedroom with a gun to your spouses head.

 

[Hejlena]

Dorner now named as suspect in Corona shooting; grazed one officer. His truck was followed "at a safe distance"; he exited vehicle and fired with a "shoulder-type" weapon and police returned fire. Still at large. No reason to believe he has changed vehicles. LAPD spokesperson: "This situation is unprecedented." KTLA confirms wallet and badge found in San Diego at Lindbergh Field.

Fired from a "shoulder-type weapon. Couldn't be the same as what we're discussing now, right?

 

[Kaliste]

This is something I've been thinking about today. So many people seem to view him a some kind of bada$$ vigilante hero. I worry about copycats, i worry about people reaching out to him and aiding in his war against LAPD, I worry about this growing into some kind of people vs government. The not knowing where this guy is coupled with scared cops is making me anxious. Hope that makes sense, I just needed to get those thoughts out of my head.