CA CA - Emmanuel Haro, 7-months, reported kidnapped 7:30pm from Big 5 parking lot, Yucaipa Blvd, Yucaipa, 14 Aug 2025 *Arrest* #2

[keek]

Very curious what evidence they have to come right out and charge with murder (with malice!) without the baby found.

jmopinion

Extra horrified me. She was charged with that but we have to see if he is as well. She's def a mentally unstable person, of course, but wonder mental state all along. IMO

 

[Dawookie]

Did Vincent Hughes, JH's lawyer, admit here that JH is guilty of the horrific abuse that was done to his 10 week old daughter that he blamed his wife Vanessa for?

“Jake has a criminal past,” Hughes said. “We’re not running from that, but the facts of that case are a lot different than the facts of this case. And one crime doesn’t mean that you’ve committed every other crime known to man, especially to take your own child.”

“They just want their son back, they want people to put in the same effort that they’re using to question them to go out and search for Emmanuel,” Hughes told The Times.'

Parents of missing baby Emmanuel Haro faked kidnapping, now accused of murder, officials say

The parents of missing baby Emmanuel Haro were arrested Friday on suspicion of murder, more than a week after his mother claimed he was abducted, San Bernardino County Sheriff’s officials said.

www.latimes.com

And this is why some people don't have respect some lawyers. That comment, IMO, comes across as trying to downplay what he did to his daughter and how horribly injured she was. He literally almost killed his daughter just a few short years ago, not really that much of a stretch to say he'd kill his own son in this case.

 

[fred&edna]

i have no idea who the 'sources' might be.... but a source says a large amount of blood found on carpet in the home.

self reporting as i don't know if this is an approved source.

 

[Arkay]

Oh, right, the husband’s defense attorney says “they just want their son back.”

When the truth is more like they wanted to give him back to God or otherwise just be rid of him.

They certainly didn’t want him. This family has violence in its veins, IMO.

 

[PNW]

Not directed at you, and this falls at random because I have seen it a lot in this thread…. It doesn’t sit right with me that women are getting blamed for letting these men into their lives. These men are GOOD at what they do. They love bomb and mirror and manipulate. They lie about every detail of their pasts and make themselves the victim. By the time their targets begin to see cracks… it is way too late.

Professional con artists, narcissists, abusers… men who need women to take care of them financially— that’s who is to blame. Not the women who choose to trust and have open hearts.

Not saying Rebecca is 100% a victim because she did some deplorable things too. But I truly believe Jake lied about his past and conned her.

Nah, both are to blame. As a grown adult, male and female, you have to not be naive. Trusting and having an open heart is not an excuse for being dumb.

 

[LadyL]

This is what confuses me. If she fell down and got up right away, although I know she said “everything went white,” wouldn’t she still be within sight and earshot to know at least SOMETHING about which direction the “kidnapper” fled? Or any detail at all? She wasn’t unconscious.

And yes, that black eye would not have looked like that immediately.





I feel terrible for RH if she is, as is possible, a victim of DV. I understand women in these situations feel trapped and afraid to leave. That black eye is not new.

BUT your child in danger should be the inflection point. Scary as it is if you’re a victim of DV, she was capable of making choices. Especially since she was now freely able to tell LE.

Emmanuel could not make choices. Neither could his ten-week old half sister.

This as I understand is often the point when a battered woman, if she is, draws the line if her children are being assaulted. This baby had absolutely no means of defense.

JMO

everything went white? I missed most of the last thread and trying to catch up
isn't that weird? I've lost consciousness plenty of times and I always say everything went black

 

[lonetraveler]

i have no idea who the 'sources' might be.... but a source says a large amount of blood found on carpet in the home.

self reporting as i don't know if this is an approved source.

OMG

 

[Sillybilly]

Is JLR Investigates an approved site?

NOooooo ... but thanks for asking

 

[BlaiseFinlay]

Not directed at you, and this falls at random because I have seen it a lot in this thread…. It doesn’t sit right with me that women are getting blamed for letting these men into their lives. These men are GOOD at what they do. They love bomb and mirror and manipulate. They lie about every detail of their pasts and make themselves the victim. By the time their targets begin to see cracks… it is way too late.

Professional con artists, narcissists, abusers… men who need women to take care of them financially— that’s who is to blame. Not the women who choose to trust and have open hearts.

Not saying Rebecca is 100% a victim because she did some deplorable things too. But I truly believe Jake lied about his past and conned her.

I both agree and disagree. It’s nuanced. But just want to say first and foremost that in all events, nothing absolves JH from any blame — I never view blame as a zero sum game.

Getting into the weeds of your point…it’s complicated. Full disclosure, I stayed with and went back to an abusive partner many times. Some of those times, it was influenced by him blackmailing me, so I get a little bit of a pass there. Other times, it was just for emotional reasons. And this is abuse I experienced first hand, so I had full knowledge of the abuse. Is any of his subsequent abuse towards me my fault? No. Was I responsible for my decision to stay in the relationship, putting me in that position? Yes. Does that make me unworthy of sympathy for what I endured? I don’t think so — human are flawed and I think it’s normal to still sympathize with people who are in bad situations as a result of decisions they made (e.g. someone with a bad diet who has a heart attack) — but whether you’re deserving of someone else’s sympathy I don’t think it’s an objective determination.

I also have another personal anecdote relevant to your post. My ex-boyfriend left me for someone who I later learned was accused of physically abusing her ex-boyfriend, and there was a permanent restraining order against her prohibiting contact with her ex-boyfriend and his children — granted by a judge after a full trial. I mentioned it to him (the motivation for doing so was obviously complicated, but at least part of it was out of genuine care), and it turns out he already knew about it. He said the ex-boyfriend had lied (apparently so well that he convinced a female judge, I might add…the other witnesses must have lied too). I think he’s a damn fool. (But as acknowledged above, the same could fairly be said of me.)

To be fair, one very important difference between my ex and RH is that my ex is a lawyer. Based on some of the things he said, I’m not even convinced he read the whole court file, but I’m not sure whether that makes it better or worse. It’s not necessarily fair to assume that RH had reasonably easy access to information about the charges against JH independent of what he told her.

That said, I think you have a duty to protect your children, so I will hold parents to a higher standard. It’s one thing to decide to take the risk for yourself, but it’s quite another to decide to take that risk on behalf of your child (or future child).

 

[PNW]

I am aware Yucaipa is an actual city (although by California standards, not particularly large). It is a decent place to live (although very hot). To have to move outside of Yucaipa to some place like Cabazon is a big deal.

As I mentioned I have family who used to live there. Struggled, managed to move to Riverside and then elsewhere. I have been there.

Again, not trying to excuse anyone, but I can imagine a woman who didn't know how to do due diligence in figuring out what a bad man she was marrying/getting involved with. I also wonder whether both parents were asked to submit to voluntary drug testing (during the pre-arrest interview process) and what LE learned from that, if anything.

At her big age she didn’t know how to do due diligence with a man she was getting involved with? I doubt that. I think she knew and didn’t care. People are sure falling for her act.

 

[Izzylizzy]

And this is why some people don't have respect some lawyers. That comment, IMO, comes across as trying to downplay what he did to his daughter and how horribly injured she was. He literally almost killed his daughter just a few short years ago, not really that much of a stretch to say he'd kill his own son in this case.

Hear! Hear! for your comments.

He did kill any life his daughter had in this world leaving her paralyzed, blind, with a feeding tube and 3% of brain activity.
She can not speak.
And he plead guilty to all he did to his daughter and was sentenced to 180 days in jail and 48 months of probation . (SCREAM)

Oh, least we not forget those mandatory parenting classes which must have made the DA & judge secure in their signing off on his and VH's guilty plea sentences.

He was arrested in 2018 for almost killing his daughter and it took until 2023 for his guilty plea.
In the meantime while he was free along came RH and their now 2 yr old daughter that thankfully the state removed from the house of horrors.

imo

 

[Megnut]

i have no idea who the 'sources' might be.... but a source says a large amount of blood found on carpet in the home.

self reporting as i don't know if this is an approved source.

"They... believe the father murdered him. At home. Large amount of blood on the carpet....


Then coverage breaks to the mother describing hearing Hola and next being in the floor....

That poor baby.

JMO

 

[diggndeeperstill]

I just get an error message with the link. Screenshot?

Sorry… I left off some…

Case search

 

[LadyL]

More pictures of poor Emmanuel I see more I think he already had some brain damage before he went missing. His so called father should not be allowed to step his foot outside prison for the rest of his life for maiming his other child (3% of brain function, dear God, that's horrifying). Yet here we are. I wonder, is the judge that sentenced him able to look at his own face in the mirror now?

California has the death penalty correct? I found this:

In March 2025, Los Angeles County's District Attorney Nathan Hochman announced that prosecutors would once again be permitted to seek the death penalty in "the most egregious" cases, marking a significant shift in the county's approach to capital punishment. This decision comes after a period during which the previous DA, George Gascón, had halted the pursuit of death sentences. The new policy allows for the consideration of mitigating factors in death penalty cases, indicating a nuanced approach to capital punishment in the county.
Newsweek

sorry to all if this was covered already - I'm on page one of this thread trying to catch up

 

[whitelilac]

Did I hear correctly in that News Nation podcast that they threw out all the baby's clothes, and his photos?

 

[Megnut]

All the baby's photos were removed the home, his clothes all thrown out.... raising the question of how long he's been dead.

Lord.

JMO

 

[LadyL]

I agree with you about the pictures. I saw one in particular where if I didn't know he was alive in that picture I would have thought he was dead.

Even if RH had "fallen" in the video, how does the attorney think the baby was kidnapped if there was no one else in the video?

[bbm]

exactly!

 

[Arkay]

Did I hear correctly in that News Nation podcast that they threw out all the baby's clothes, and his photos?

All the baby's photos were removed the home, his clothes all thrown out.... raising the question of how long he's been dead.

Lord.

JMO

Oh no!
I haven’t yet watched any newscasts or TV news about this.

Where do you suppose they found the (very few) pictures we have already seen of Emmanuel?

 

[Jw192]

"numerous interviews have been conducted, search warrants have been served, digital and electronic evidence has been collected and closely analysed"
"Based on the evidence retrieved, it is believed Emmanuel is deceased and the search to recover his remains is ongoing"

Well whatever they've found is enough to lay Malice Murder charges on the both of them. The electronic part sticks out to me, what have they found on their phones/devices? Very likely the brainiac pair thought that just deleting messages/web searches was enough.

*Not sure I'm allowed to do a FB link but this is from official LE

ETA - Just seen the blood report and the throwing out of the clothing... MONSTERS THE PAIR OF THEM.

 

[Toniab329]

When I see him, all I think is he killed a 7 month old BABY and permanently a disabled 10 week old BABY. His own children.

I couldn't care for her any less either, for the record. We just don't know as much yet about her. For him, we know 7 months and 10 weeks.

jmopinion

I don't have children. Didn't want them. I'm sure there are many rewards to having them, but the idea of a really loud, tiny human being so needy and dependent on me makes every cell in my body cringe.

That said, the only thing that makes those cells cringe harder is the idea of physically harming that loud, tiny human. Or hurting ANY small/vulnerable being. I can barely tap my cat's butt when he's being bad, how can you hurt children, at least 2 of them, that severely?

I think I follow these cases just so I don't forget that humans are horrible creatures. Yes, there's a lot of good in the world, but for the most part, we suck.

Thanks for reading my pessimistic rant. I'm going to have a glass of wine and listen to music, that always helps.