CA CA - Emmanuel Haro, 7-months, reported kidnapped 7:30pm from Big 5 parking lot, Yucaipa Blvd, Yucaipa, 14 Aug 2025 *Arrest* #2

[Inthedetails]

When you adopt someone, you are legally responsible for the child. I am unsure what you are trying to say. If a married couple adopts a child, both are legally responsible (for life) in the same way biological parents are.

Were they foster children instead?

Anyway, in none of the US states is this true. If it's a legal adoption - but are saying it wasn't? If it wasn't an adoption, let's use a different term.

Two of JH's children were adopted by a cousin of his ex-wife. JH is no longer legally the father because his children were adopted by somebody else.

jmopinion

 

[anyoldtime48]

Not directed at you, and this falls at random because I have seen it a lot in this thread…. It doesn’t sit right with me that women are getting blamed for letting these men into their lives. These men are GOOD at what they do. They love bomb and mirror and manipulate. They lie about every detail of their pasts and make themselves the victim. By the time their targets begin to see cracks… it is way too late.

Professional con artists, narcissists, abusers… men who need women to take care of them financially— that’s who is to blame. Not the women who choose to trust and have open hearts.

Not saying Rebecca is 100% a victim because she did some deplorable things too. But I truly believe Jake lied about his past and conned her.

BBM.

You pretty much covered it. Classic narcissist routine. Some sadly are better at it and some of their victims wake up more quickly and can get out safely, or with a better chance. Based on what we know of his past behavior, she might have been living under threats of "I will end you" and/or "I will blame you and nobody will believe a word you say."

Which makes it all the harder to know who to believe when we don't know the people.

 

[steff13]

When you adopt someone, you are legally responsible for the child. I am unsure what you are trying to say. If a married couple adopts a child, both are legally responsible (for life) in the same way biological parents are.

Were they foster children instead?

Anyway, in none of the US states is this true. If it's a legal adoption - but are saying it wasn't? If it wasn't an adoption, let's use a different term.

His children were adopted by another couple. Thus, he likely had no financial obligation to them any longer, because legally they were no longer his children. The adoptive family are now responsible for them.

 

[anyoldtime48]

When you adopt someone, you are legally responsible for the child. I am unsure what you are trying to say. If a married couple adopts a child, both are legally responsible (for life) in the same way biological parents are.

Were they foster children instead?

Anyway, in none of the US states is this true. If it's a legal adoption - but are saying it wasn't? If it wasn't an adoption, let's use a different term.

Both of Jake's children with previous wife, the 10-week old daughter left with only 3% brain function from Jake's physical abuse, and the older son who was born with fetal alcohol syndrome were legally adopted by the cousin of that wife.

 

[Inthedetails]

They live in a desert area that has plots of land with houses that are not necessarily up to code, as many were built before some codes were in place, plus it is Riverside COUNTY. County is looser re housing codes. "Poverty" would be what their income was. State of the home has many factors including attitude and care in addition to if fixing it up was affordable.

I travel though there on a regular basis. IMO, horrible area to live. But I don't like Banning, either.

It seems isolated to me, a place for abuse to go unnoticed by people outside the family. I really do think the "homebody" description more likely meant "isolated" rather than an affection for home.

(Yes, I know abuse can happen anywhere.)

jmopinion

 

[lonetraveler]

The state of the home in the posted photo from today makes me think they're living in poverty. Does anyone know if they are? I know a neighbors home just burned down because people living in an RV on the property caught it on fire. They live in a rough area?

Because if so, and if they're low income, who is paying for this lawyer?

Most likely the tax payers.

 

[Arkay]

Not directed at you, and this falls at random because I have seen it a lot in this thread…. It doesn’t sit right with me that women are getting blamed for letting these men into their lives. These men are GOOD at what they do. They love bomb and mirror and manipulate. They lie about every detail of their pasts and make themselves the victim. By the time their targets begin to see cracks… it is way too late.

Professional con artists, narcissists, abusers… men who need women to take care of them financially— that’s who is to blame. Not the women who choose to trust and have open hearts.

Not saying Rebecca is 100% a victim because she did some deplorable things too. But I truly believe Jake lied about his past and conned her.

I agree with this premise, except for one thing.

It’s entirely possible that the husband told RH some roaring fibs about what happened to his son and daughter with his other wives. The blame would in fact be on the mother of the boy with Fetal Alcohol Syndrome, and he could’ve persuaded RH that he was unjustly accused and imprisoned and never hurt his ten-week old daughter, and she believed him.

My caveat, though, is once this happened to her OWN son, Emmanuel, she should not be covering up for him, if that’s the case. Or of course since they were both arrested for murder, that’s now a moot point as she seems to have partnered in this atrocity.

My daughter’s first husband was horrible, (not violent though) and we all begged her not to marry him, but she believed him about everything. Two years later, when she had a 5-month old daughter, she left him and they moved in with me for three years.

It took becoming a mother to see that she needed to get herself and my granddaughter away from him.

I truly wish, no matter how RH succumbed to his blandishment and tricks, she would’ve taken Emmanuel anywhere else, even if it was to a shelter or placing him in a group home.

I would give her some grace but only up until she saw he was abusing her own little baby. Which IMO is what happened. We’ve yet to discover who did what, but two murder charges is a big clue.


ETA: I wonder if having a brother who murdered his wife desensitized RH to violence in some way? Sort of acclimated to family violence?

Yet I still maintain that she needed to remove Emmanuel from that situation. I know it’s difficult and dangerous, but that tiny boy should have been her main priority.



JMO

 

[kid_a]

When you adopt someone, you are legally responsible for the child. I am unsure what you are trying to say. If a married couple adopts a child, both are legally responsible (for life) in the same way biological parents are.

Were they foster children instead?

Anyway, in none of the US states is this true. If it's a legal adoption - but are saying it wasn't? If it wasn't an adoption, let's use a different term.

No, what they meant was that his parental rights were terminated and the children were adopted by his ex wife's cousin. So, he no longer had any legal responsibility to them.

 

[fred&edna]

Yet the Mr and Missus were able to donate $300 to a well-known fundraising site in late July 2025 ... it had been set up for a young man who died from fentynal ingestion. The deceased man's name is not given on the fundraising website ... I thought the name was there earlier. Nonetheless that $300 was a very generous donation from a family (with two young children) that appears to be money challenged.

wow. generous.

i guess jh has a big heart

jmo with a big eyeroll

 

[10ofRods]

Cabazon is about 90 miles east of L.A. in an unincorporated area of Riverside County. It’s pure desert out there. Yucaipa is about 30 miles from Cabazon.

It's hell out there. Very poor. Very hard place to live. Not an excuse, just context. VI cery little law enforcement, nearly non-existent social services and most residents are struggling with their own existence, not well attuned to what's going on next door, IMO. Yucaipa is a little better, maybe, but my family members from Yucaipa moved away long ago, as soon as they could.

It's 104F in Yucaipa as I type this and 110F in Cabazon.

I can't even imagine what's it like without A/C, especially for children and A/C is super expensive out that way.

IMO

 

[10ofRods]

No, what they meant was that his parental rights were terminated and the children were adopted by his ex wife's cousin. So, he no longer had any legal responsibility to them.

Ah, gotcha. That was not clear to me.

Anyway, my view on what should happen to him next probably violates ToS here. No outcome here will ever constitute justice, to me.

So the ex wife relinquished custody as well (good for her!)

(I'm adopted, perhaps more sensitive than some about phrasing).

 

[Allabouttrial]

I think the presser info. is fake news as I can't find anything.

 

[anyoldtime48]

Ah, the perp walk.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1500678770926937

 

[anyoldtime48]

I think the presser info. is fake news as I can't find anything.

I feel that pain. and nothing on the Sheriff's FB page either.

 

[Izzylizzy]

 

[LooksSusToMe]

It's hell out there. Very poor. Very hard place to live. Not an excuse, just context. VI cery little law enforcement, nearly non-existent social services and most residents are struggling with their own existence, not well attuned to what's going on next door, IMO. Yucaipa is a little better, maybe, but my family members from Yucaipa moved away long ago, as soon as they could.

It's 104F in Yucaipa as I type this and 110F in Cabazon.

I can't even imagine what's it like without A/C, especially for children and A/C is super expensive out that way.

IMO

Yucaipa is an actual city with like 50,000 people. I have a friend who lives there. It's hot AF there too, but it's not as desolate as Cabazon which is not an incorporated city and less than 3,000 residents.

 

[10ofRods]

I thinks so.
They may have decided to first arrest the parents before informing the public that they found Emmanuel.
I gather if they did find the baby the 2 lawyers would have been informed?
imo

Hmm. Maybe the lawyers would be informed. I would think it would be LE>legal parents first (even if parents are in custody and under legal suspicion). There is no obligation to inform the public right away (probably best done through the courts and strict legal controls).

I am assuming that even without a body, that they have enough evidence to bring charges against the parents and arrest them. I also would bet quite a bit that one of the parents cracked during a pre-arrest interview and gave lots of information that led to the indictment (and possibly, to their own indictment).

I assume the lawyers are public defenders and that the usual protocol for handing over evidence will be followed (usually goes to the PD at the same time the Court receives it, though there are certainly exceptions).

A lot of women do not realize how strict the laws are (in many states) regarding complicity in abuse.

 

[keek]

Ah, the perp walk.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1500678770926937

He’s shackled

 

[JaimeInLA]

Ah, the perp walk.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1500678770926937

Omg! Not him wincing and acting all uncomfortable! Suck it up you whiny man child !!

 

[BlaiseFinlay]

i didn't suggest we throw surviving children to the street. emmanuel was not protected in this case. and a society that allows repeat child abuse, torture and death at the hands of parent is certainly something i think about. it's the totality of this entire situation which seems to allow monsters to control society... financially and morally. i doubt anyone even suggested jh pay for anything he did... and there's something very wrong with that.

i'm sorry you missed my point. my point was that monsters should be held accountable for the damage they cause to others.... and at the minimum financial accountability for the lifelong harm inflicted on a baby.

There's this thing called... restitution.
jmo

Child support for children removed by CPS and restitution are both standard. This isn’t a societal problem — can’t speak to whether he was held financially accountable in this case, but generally speaking, those systems are in place. And as someone else mentioned, the child support obligation would end with adoption. But even if restitution wasn’t ordered, the parents on behalf of the daughter could civilly sue him for damages. Of course, he has to have money to take it.