CA CA - Emmanuel Haro, 7-months, reported kidnapped 7:30pm from Big 5 parking lot, Yucaipa Blvd, Yucaipa, 14 Aug 2025 *Arrest* #2

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  • #761
wait the incident was on the 23rd? werent they arrested yesterday?

The incident would be dated the date the report was filed not the date the abuse occurred
 
  • #762
Hear! Hear!

If it was JH who murdered baby Emmanuel and RH had absolutely nothing to do with it I ask myself did RH not have one opportunity before she did her "hola" to grab her daughter and get to authorities via however and tell them her husband murdered their son?

We have no idea when baby Emmanuel was last alive and no idea what torture he experienced leading up to and including his death.
LE finding him and the results of an autopsy will hopefully give a much clearer picture of the circumstances that caused BE's death at the hands of his parent(s).

No mercy for RH.

IMO
That's what he does though. With the little 10 week old he blamed it on his then wife (now ex). With Emmanuel, through his attorney, he was sooooo cooperative. Pretty sure he is or was going to try to do the same thing. What is the common denominator in those two cases?? HIM Don't get me wrong by doing nothing the two wives were just as guilty.
 
  • #763
That's what he does though. With the little 10 week old he blamed it on his then wife (now ex). With Emmanuel, through his attorney, he was sooooo cooperative. Pretty sure he is or was going to try to do the same thing. What is the common denominator in those two cases?? HIM

How do we know his ex wife isn’t the one who inflicted the abuse? Or some of it?
 
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The incident would be dated the date the report was filed not the date the abuse occurred
see we need a chart. ( sorry i shouldnt joke about this)
was wondering about that when I realized today was the 23rd.
It does sound like its about the 2 yr old, after an examination was completed.
 
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How do we know his ex wife isn’t the one who inflicted the abuse? Or some of it?
We don’t, and it must be noted she is also the mother of his son with apparently documented FAS.

But JH sure does seem to be the common denominator here.
 
  • #767
True, they pointed fingers at each other.

We know she has to have ignored it. They said that baby would have been a mess.
 
  • #768
We don’t, and it must be noted she is also the mother of his son with apparently documented FAS.

But JH sure does seem to be the common denominator here.

Oh I think he’s horrific
I’m just not giving an out to someone else convicted of childabuse knowing what she would have seen in that infant
 
  • #769
I think the first wife is potentially the only decent parent among them. Remember, we don't know what the situation is with RH and her first set of kids. Are they in contact? If not, why not?
 
  • #770
How do we know his ex wife isn’t the one who inflicted the abuse? Or some of it?
That is a fair statement. I do think with a second incident now though it's going to be harder for me to give him the benefit of the doubt. And I do feel the wives played their part in this.
 
  • #771
We know she has to have ignored it. They said that baby would have been a mess.
She was and, sad to say, is. She has 3% brain function among a long list of other things wrong. :(
 
  • #772
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Weren't they at the same facility initially? She's in Riverside, he's now in Banning.
 
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He was moved at some point after his arrest from Presley to Larry D. Smith

Dunno anything about these but assume it’s just a population thing?

I see Larry d smith has a substance program
 
  • #775

Deputies say the Haros are also at the center of other reports of abuse.

Riverside County sheriff's deputies say they responded to a call of child abuse at a home in the 23000 block of Cottonwood Avenue in Moreno Valley on Thursday afternoon. They confirmed the investigation is related to the Haros.

Deputies said the investigation into the alleged abuse is ongoing. No further details were released.


Wow, what do we think this could be about?
Interesting that the DCS office is also on Cottonwood Ave.
IMO.
 
  • #776
I don’t feel one is any more guilty than the other. They both lived in the house with Emmanuel. They were both aware of what happened (no matter who did what). Neither called for help. Both went along with the cover-up and lied through their teeth. One or the other of them could have come clean at any time, but they are both sticking to this ridiculous scenario. I have zero sympathy for either one of them and if one turns on the other and gets a plea deal, I hope the judge throws it out and nails both of their butts to the wall.
I don't have sympathy for either of them, but I don't believe both are equally guilty if only one of them hurt the baby. We don't know the power dynamic within their household, so I'm not yet comfortable assuming they were both in favor of committing the act. I do agree with you that they are both responsible for the cover up. JMO.
 
  • #777
Dunno anything about these but assume it’s just a population thing?

I see Larry d smith has a substance program
I guess it is just really hard to know. Could be a population/staffing situation for sure. But how knows?
 
  • #778
Thanks for posting this! So in one of those documents it states JH was arrested on June 27, 2024 with a felony charge of "convicted felon and narcotic addict own or possess a firearm". He plead not guilty to that charge and not guilty to "Prohibited person own/possess a firearm".

Do i interpret this as JH being addicted to narcotics and therefore cannot own or possess a firearm? Is this why he was arrested?
He's a convicted felon on probation and can't own (etc) a firearm.
He had a firearm and ammo.
I think the "addicted narcotics" part is that Felons (JH) and those addicted to narcotics also can't own a firearm, JH is the felon who was arrested under that law.

I don't remember reading anything mentioned about alcohol and/or drugs in his probation restrictions.
 
  • #779
I’ve been playing with words in my head to describe what these normalized abusive situations look like.

Say you have a great great grandmother who has a giant mole on her face, and everyone with her DNA has it too. Some dna combo make it smaller but everyone has it a little. Nobody notices the moles anymore because everyone has them

That’s what starts to happen with abuse in these situations where we see so many extreme crimes within a family/extended family. Everyone sees the abuse/crime but no one notices it anymore because it’s normal

Absolutely.

I wrote somewhere earlier in this thread that IMO they’ve become acclimated and/or desensitized to the violence and frequent untimely deaths.

It’s their normal.

Take just RH—your brother is a killer. Your husband has beaten one of his children to within 3% of being alive. Your husband’s former wife may well have played a role in it.

You have a nephew, IIRC, who ODed.


Now today there’s some mention of this couple somehow involved in a separate child abuse case.

Yet you go into this marriage knowing that your husband was arrested for child cruelty.

Then you do an unconvincing imitation of a grieving mother with an instantly preposterous story.

It’s like violence is this family's crest.

JMO

ETA: just saw yours, @peppermintmocha. DBM means “deleted by me,” when you wish to delete something you wrote.
You have an hour to edit any post you’ve written.

Oh and just in case, ETA is “edited to add.”
 
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He's a convicted felon on probation and can't own (etc) a firearm.
He had a firearm and ammo.
I think the "addicted narcotics" part is that Felons (JH) and those addicted to narcotics also can't own a firearm, JH is the felon who was arrested under that law.

I don't remember reading anything mentioned about alcohol and/or drugs in his probation restrictions.
Where please did you see his probation restrictions?
 
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