CA CA - Emmanuel Haro, 7-months, reported kidnapped 7:30pm from Big 5 parking lot, Yucaipa Blvd, Yucaipa, 14 Aug 2025

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<modsnip>… just my personal opinion on this case. I first saw it on social media and of course came straight here. Watching the press interview she and her husband gave, I was left with a feeling of dread as they just didn’t seem authentic. In viewing Emmanuel’s photos, it appears to me that there could be some sort of health condition. If that’s true, does that perhaps leave room for the theory that they were not able or willing to give him any ongoing medical care? Again, just my personal thoughts. <modsnip>
I thought he is blind looking at the first picture released but he’s not according to their PC.

The only “health issue” they have discussed is “crossed eyes” or strabismus. Otherwise they have said Emmanuel is “healthy, he played, he smiled.” In the video recorded at their PC.

My grson has strabismus, we patched him 2 hours a day, he has worn glasses since he was 11 mos old, he had surgery at around 5 yrs & will be having another soon. Since this starts very early babies develop the same as other babies. Not all kids w/ strabismus need surgery.
 
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I thought he is blind looking at the first picture released but he’s not according to their PC.

The only “health issue” they have discussed is “crossed eyes” or strabismus. Otherwise they have said Emmanuel is “healthy, he played, he smiled.” In the video recorded at their PC.

My grson has strabismus, we patched him 2 hours a day, he has worn glasses since he was 11 mos old, he had surgery at around 5 yrs & will be having another soon. Since this starts very early babies develop the same as other babies. Not all kids w/ strabismus need surgery.
I see. Thank you abyquinn 😊
 
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I think the initial picture made it look like he had a craniofacial abnormality (frontal bossing, low set ears?) but it was just a weird angle causing an illusion. Some of the other pictures look totally typical.
 
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The public never does. I am a little surprised though to hear there were cadaver dogs (according to what the grandmother told the media) in Cabazon yesterday and not a single media report from any of the southern CA MSM outlets - showing the house & police activity there. That's something you'd think they'd be all over.

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It’s Interesting. As she’s telling the story, her husband had his eyes on her like a hawk. With the exception of one brief pinch between the eyes. To force tears out perhaps?

I think it’s pretty clear here. We will find out exactly what happened soon enough.

However, this is still incredibly sad nonetheless. And far too common of a story these days.
 
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I think the initial picture made it look like he had a craniofacial abnormality (frontal bossing, low set ears?) but it was just a weird angle causing an illusion. Some of the other pictures look totally typical.
One thing we haven't seen in any pictures that have been released is a smiling Emmanuel :(
IMO.
 
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If she was in a dom violence/safety situation. why, when she has an opportunity to speak with police does she clam up?
We know she has chosen to stay through past domestic violence incidents. There are always various reasons. Could be financial. Could be that she thought she could protect her children better if she were there. Could be emotional. Could be she thought she’d be killed if she left. Could be a combination of the above. But given that past decision, she could reasonably fear being seen as complicit in the abuse that resulted in her child’s death. Not to mention that she’s already lied.

I can’t emphasize enough how terrifying of a position women in abusive relationships with kids are in. The possibility of their children getting unsupervised visits with the abuser is very real (if not probable, especially if the abuse to date has only been directed to the mother — but as we can see in this case, even after a conviction for child cruelty, it appears he still had custody of those children). And there is the very real risk of getting killed yourself if you leave.

All MOO. Not offered as defense of any action or inaction, just as possible explanation.
 
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One thing we haven't seen in any pictures that have been released is a smiling Emmanuel :(
IMO.
There's hardly been any photos at all! Very strange and sad really. It gives me the feeling that he wasn't wanted...JMO.
 
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"I noticed a smell from my baby so I wanted to change him before going into the store," she said. "I took him out of the car seat and I laid him on the chair. I had his diapers here and someone said, 'Hola.' I couldn’t turn and I don’t remember nothing. I got up from the floor and didn’t see my child. Someone took him from me."




Deputies were called just before 7:47 p.m. Thursday to the 34000 block of Yucaipa Boulevard outside a Big 5 Sporting Goods, where Rebecca Haro reported she had been attacked by a stranger while changing her son’s diaper next to her car.




The child’s mother, Rebecca Haro of Cabazon, initially told San Bernardino County Sheriff’s investigators that she was changing the baby’s diaper by her vehicle Thursday night, Aug. 14, outside a Big 5 store in Yucaipa when she was assaulted and knocked unconscious by an unknown male. When she awoke, the child was gone, she said.




She said she had to go to a Big 5 store to buy a mouth guard for her stepson. When she arrived in the parking lot, she said, she realized the baby's diaper needed to be changed, so she laid him down in the back of her truck when she was attacked from behind.

 
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There's hardly been any photos at all! Very strange and sad really. It gives me the feeling that he wasn't wanted...JMO.
Yep and the missing person flyer isn’t even a photo that shows any amount of his face like they grabbed whatever and threw on there to satisfy the expectation of making flyers and announcing him missing

It’s gross. I know we are seeing dad bad with his aggressive history but surely if mom was better she had pics that would have even better supported this story

Not even family posting other pics. I truly wonder how much he was seen or involved in anything in the regular anyway
 
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We know she has chosen to stay through past domestic violence incidents. There are always various reasons. Could be financial. Could be that she thought she could protect her children better if she were there. Could be emotional. Could be she thought she’d be killed if she left. Could be a combination of the above. But given that past decision, she could reasonably fear being seen as complicit in the abuse that resulted in her child’s death. Not to mention that she’s already lied.

I can’t emphasize enough how terrifying of a position women in abusive relationships with kids are in. The possibility of their children getting unsupervised visits with the abuser is very real (if not probable, especially if the abuse to date has only been directed to the mother — but as we can see in this case, even after a conviction for child cruelty, it appears he still had custody of those children). And there is the very real risk of getting killed yourself if you leave.

All MOO. Not offered as defense of any action or inaction, just as possible explanation.
I'm confused. How is it this a known thing? Were they married when he was charged in the child cruelty case 7 years ago? Also, how do we know he had custody of the children? I haven't seen anything in MSM media that mentions either of those things.
 
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It's troubling that LE haven't yet found the baby. Because if the couple have made up this story - which seems so far fetched and easily disproved - then it's hard to imagine they would successfully hide a body? I suppose it may depend on how long they've had to plan 😞
This is always my first thought.

Though sadly, what I’ve come to learn from cases I follow is that if timed right with trash pickup, dumpsters are a pretty effective method of disposal, and certainly easy to think of and execute with a baby.

As I recall, in the Sam Haskell case, they only ever found the one bag with part of his wife’s body in it, because a witness found it before the trash was picked up. They never found the bodies of her parents, or the rest of her body.

I remember following on here a search in another case where they did search for and find a baby’s body in a landfill, after the trash had already been picked up, but I believe they knew the exact (recent) time and location of where the trash was dumped in the landfill, and it still took extensive manpower.
 
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We know she has chosen to stay through past domestic violence incidents. There are always various reasons. Could be financial. Could be that she thought she could protect her children better if she were there. Could be emotional. Could be she thought she’d be killed if she left. Could be a combination of the above. But given that past decision, she could reasonably fear being seen as complicit in the abuse that resulted in her child’s death. Not to mention that she’s already lied.

I can’t emphasize enough how terrifying of a position women in abusive relationships with kids are in. The possibility of their children getting unsupervised visits with the abuser is very real (if not probable, especially if the abuse to date has only been directed to the mother — but as we can see in this case, even after a conviction for child cruelty, it appears he still had custody of those children). And there is the very real risk of getting killed yourself if you leave.

All MOO. Not offered as defense of any action or inaction, just as possible explanation.

I'm confused. How is it this a known thing? Were they married when he was charged in the child cruelty case 7 years ago? Also, how do we know he had custody of the children? I haven't seen anything in MSM media that mentions either of those things.

I'm guessing Blaise was thinking the mother was the same woman from the previous case but she was not. Surprisingly, that woman was the one they met at the park to watch the sons play football.

I'm looking for the news source that reported the 2 year old was removed from the Haro home so please forgive me if I missed it.
 
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I'm guessing Blaise was thinking the mother was the same woman from the previous case but she was not. Surprisingly, that woman was the one they met at the park to watch the sons play football.

I'm looking for the news source that reported the 2 year old was removed from the Haro home so please forgive me if I missed it.
This case just gets more and more confusing. Can you please share where the bolded info is coming from?

The 2 yr old being removed from the home came from an interview with the grandmother. The link has been posted here but here it is again:
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(she makes that comment at 2:26 in the interview)
 
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I'm confused. How is it this a known thing? Were they married when he was charged in the child cruelty case 7 years ago? Also, how do we know he had custody of the children? I haven't seen anything in MSM media that mentions either of those things.
As to your first question, you’re right, it’s not actually known, I’m making some inferences and my wording could have been improved.

While I don’t know when they married, the conviction was only two years ago and he was sentenced to 180 days in jail. It’s almost certain she knew of the conviction. So at a minimum, I am comfortable saying (but still MOO of course), that we know that she has decided to be in a relationship where her husband committed domestic violence against his child in the past. Even though that particular incident may have preceded her, it’s still an active decision she is making to raise children with someone she knows has previously committed domestic violence against his child (and to such an extent that he was convicted and sentenced to jail).

The rest is inference. It’s been reported that he has an upcoming hearing for a probation violation. I don’t know what that violation was, but it seems there is evidence he hasn’t followed the guidelines set out by the court in response to that domestic violence incident. I think the likelihood someone who commits that level of violence against their child will display violence at other times is high. I think anyone willing to overlook that history in a partner, and parent for their children, is themselves in a vulnerable position for whatever reason, making them more likely to become the victim of abuse. And then a child abuser’s son goes missing and his wife has a black eye, and the wife is caught making inconsistent statements. Based on all the above, MOO, the likelihood there was no behavior that could be described as domestic violence displayed by him towards either her or any of their 5 children during the course of their relationship is low (so low that I considered it a given).
(Foul play 'can't be ruled out' as cops hunt for missing baby Emmanuel Haro)

Regarding your second question, it has not been reported that they live separately. So more accurately, we have no reason to think he doesn’t have custody. The very fact they appear to have more than one child together indicates he didn’t lose custody of subsequent children. That’s why I said it “appeared” he had custody. In this context, I was referring to the children they had together.
 
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grandma (Rebecca's mother) confirms parents are no longer cooperating with LE, have lawyered up and refused polygraph. Rebecca's 2 year old has been removed (what about the other kids?). LE is as the home digging up the property. The grandmother insists neither parent would have harmed Emmanuel.
Oh noooooo!!
 
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Has the family set up a place for donations to fund the search yet?
 
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Has the family set up a place for donations to fund the search yet?
I haven't seen any news on that. Sure seems to be a common things these days though so, it won't surprise me if it happens.
 
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