CA CA - Emmanuel Haro, 7-months, reported kidnapped 7:30pm from Big 5 parking lot, Yucaipa Blvd, Yucaipa, 14 Aug 2025

[Lucy6226]

I think she would have ended up with a head injury minimum if she was knocked out and landed on the ground. JMO

Agreed, the force needed to knock someone out, she would have cracked her head on something MOO

 

[MsMarple]

Is English her first language?

I got the sense it's not. Personally I would give someone a pass for poor word-choices when/if it's not their first language. But I would still pay attention to things like her providing justifications for her actions and things that won't help solve the case (I smelled he needed a diaper change so I said okay we'll change you/I was getting his diapers out), and those that seem designed to influence the audience into thinking she's a good parent (he was a happy baby) and missing important details, like actually being hit.

IMO

Totally agree. JMO I’d pay more attention to attempted alibi building, ie explaining a little too much about why and what. IOW she goes into great detail about changing the baby’s diaper and how she was knocked unconscious but says very little about whoever hit her.

She even calls them “someone” where we’d expect her to say “him” or “her.” After all she heard the voice and probably got a quick look considering the attacker hit her in the eye. And no, I don’t believe her story.

JMO I also don’t believe Emmanuel died from any natural cause (if he’s dead and it’s likely he is). My opinion only is that one big reason a person is willing to take the risk of hiding a child’s body is to conceal injuries contributing to the death. They’re betting on the body not being found or at least found far enough along to make a COD undetermined. Remember Jesse Wilson? Only bones remained and his adoptive mother couldn’t be charged.
All MOO

 

[Chimera]

“I woke up here on the floor and I didn’t see Emmanuel.”

She said she had a black eye when she woke up.
Dark past of 'kidnapped' tot’s dad - as search team says 'something's not right'

I'm thinking these search teams have had some experience with criminal cases, and can sense when something is wrong ?
Aka, they can 'smell a rat', so to speak.
Because many (although not all) missing cases deal with a crime that happened.
Imo.

 

[Chimera]

Totally agree. JMO I’d pay more attention to attempted alibi building, ie explaining a little too much about why and what. IOW she goes into great detail about changing the baby’s diaper and how she was knocked unconscious but says very little about whoever hit her.

She even calls them “someone” where we’d expect her to say “him” or “her.” After all she heard the voice and probably got a quick look considering the attacker hit her in the eye. And no, I don’t believe her story.

JMO I also don’t believe Emmanuel died from any natural cause (if he’s dead and it’s likely he is). My opinion only is that one big reason a person is willing to take the risk of hiding a child’s body is to conceal injuries contributing to the death. They’re betting on the body not being found or at least found far enough along to make a COD undetermined. Remember Jesse Wilson? Only bones remained and his adoptive mother couldn’t be charged.
All MOO

Bbm.
Great point !
At least the 'attacker's' height, voice, and whether they were male or female.
Imo.

 

[Knox]

Maybe there was indeed a camera that captured the parking lot.

Or, maybe a neighbor's camera that shows the family loading into the vehicle to go to the game, but no baby?

jmopinion

eta: or video someone took at the game that should discrepancies in her story??

I’ve seen mention of a jewelry store across from Big 5. So many other camera opportunities, hard to know. But clearly her story didn’t match whatever evidence LE found.

Wondering how quickly we’ll see an arrest?

 

[ChatteringBirds]

ETA: I watched the video and was remembering a detail incorrectly.

I felt like the mother was telling a fictional story, not reciting an honest memory.

Abusive relationships change you. Someday she will realize what life she could have had if she had left him the first time he showed who he was. All JMO.

 

[Knox]

all I can find that isn't RH's statement about lack of cameras is this:

It's unknown if there were security cameras in the parking lot that captured the alleged kidnapping. At this point, deputies have not put out a description for a potential suspect.
Yucaipa community comes together for vigil for missing 7-month-old boy after 'inconsistencies' found

where mom's statement was:

“Nobody saw nothing, there’s no camera’s here, there’s no lighting.”

meanwhile, a stroll around the parking lot shows adequate lighting. I wonder if the area she parked had lighting that wasn't functioning (you know, coincidentally)

It sounds like she parked in a spot furthest away from the store, with the side of the vehicle she was supposedly changing his diaper on facing away from the front of the store. Can’t get much better than that for camera or other people evasion.

What Mom would do that? It’s against every instinct we have?

 

[Knox]

To me, it seemed off when they asked the "abductor" to return their son "to his parents" rather than saying "to us." I felt like the mother was telling a fictional story, not reciting an honest memory.

Abusive relationships change you. Someday she will realize what life she could have had if she had left him the first time he showed who he was. All JMO.

Yeah it’s called “distancing”. IMO, they hatched this plan to point away from their home.

 

[Soulmagent]

I think she would have ended up with a head injury minimum if she was knocked out and landed on the ground. JMO

So it would be really weird if the injury to her ,was to cover for the baby being missing and her injury actually made her insecure in her thinking patterns so maybe they decided to wait until her head fog lifted to report .
If you ever had a head injury , you know it affects ya. You can feel really f ed. If the rumor reported timeline is correct of when she really got it , I would have say it was a rock off her block. but it did not happen Thursday.
These parents did something. IMO , and I am a great advocate of the vilified , not these ones.

 

[LittleSeaTree]

Curious what everyone thinks about what the parents ages might be? Or do we know and I’ve missed them. I’m horrible at guessing ages, like, very off a lot of the times I try, but here goes: I think she looks substantially older than he does in the few images I’ve seen. And on the older side to be a Mom to such little ones, maybe? Probably neither here nor there, just trying to analyze the dynamic here, I guess. Besides that he’s clearly a controlling abuser. Again, neither here nor there, probably, but I keep going back to it for some reason!

 

[Soulmagent]

Curious what everyone thinks about what the parents ages might be? Or do we know and I’ve missed them. I’m horrible at guessing ages, like, very off a lot of the times I try, but here goes: I think she looks substantially older than he does in the few images I’ve seen. And on the older side to be a Mom to such little ones, maybe? Probably neither here nor there, just trying to analyze the dynamic here, I guess. Besides that he’s clearly a controlling abuser. Again, neither here nor there, probably, but I keep going back to it for some reason!

Whatever the ages turn out to be , I would still bet on emotionally immature.

 

[Ontario Mom]

I’ve seen mention of a jewelry store across from Big 5. So many other camera opportunities, hard to know. But clearly her story didn’t match whatever evidence LE found.

Wondering how quickly we’ll see an arrest?

My guess would be, imminently. As soon as the probable cause affidavit is written. Days? Hours?

 

[ChatteringBirds]

Yeah it’s called “distancing”. IMO, they hatched this plan to point away from their home.

I watched the video a 2nd time and edited the post you quoted. I think I was remembering what was said incorrectly, but I also sensed distancing.

 

[LooksSusToMe]

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[CityKid]

Curious what everyone thinks about what the parents ages might be? Or do we know and I’ve missed them. I’m horrible at guessing ages, like, very off a lot of the times I try, but here goes: I think she looks substantially older than he does in the few images I’ve seen. And on the older side to be a Mom to such little ones, maybe? Probably neither here nor there, just trying to analyze the dynamic here, I guess. Besides that he’s clearly a controlling abuser. Again, neither here nor there, probably, but I keep going back to it for some reason!

Per this link, "Riverside County Superior Court records show that Jake Mitchell Haro has a June 2023 felony conviction for child cruelty from a 2018 arrest in Hemet." I don't know that the records have been published in a WS-approved source, but IMO they might give his age at the time of his arrest?

https://ktla.com/news/local-news/father-of-toddler-missing-in-california-has-felony-child-cruelty-conviction/

 

[Stunned]

Devils Advocate:
I’m new here but I live in the IE and this has been everywhere.
I want to start out by saying I honestly believe the family is involved with Emmanuel’s disappearance and they deserve the full extent of the law pressed down on them if this is true.
Is it possible the baby may have died of SIDS in the night, the parents panicked. They could have assumed if they were to call for medical/police that because of the fathers previous charges that they would not be believed and would be blamed for the child’s death… Then proceeded to hide or get rid of his body and make up this elaborate story to cover up the fact that they disposed of the body. This could explain why they seem so off, disassociated, and like they are hiding something. They feel guilty like his death is their fault and did not want to be blamed. He looks like he had a few medical/physical issues and it’s not out of the realm of possibility that he could have just passed away in his sleep.
I’m not saying this is what happened but it’s a possibility. Don’t come for me just another POV. Either way if they were involved in disposing of him they deserve to be held accountable for their actions. I just hope this case comes to a resolve soon because I have a 2 month old and this situation absolutely terrifies me.

JMO

IMO if it was SIDS BECAUSE of the fathers past, I would have gotten LE involved immediately just to clear him, not hide the body! This case makes no sense! Welcome to WS!

 

[ttjo]

Yeah, because a woman alone in the evening with a baby parks were there is no lighting. A mom who needs to change a diaper does so where there is no lighting.

Not.

jmopinion

I have heard that the trees near the stall she parked in and that patch of bushes that would have been behind her vehicle, have grown up, and kind of obstruct the view of other cameras nearby, Can you see a difference from the google street view and the news footage ?

 

[Soulmagent]

Devils Advocate:
I’m new here but I live in the IE and this has been everywhere.
I want to start out by saying I honestly believe the family is involved with Emmanuel’s disappearance and they deserve the full extent of the law pressed down on them if this is true.
Is it possible the baby may have died of SIDS in the night, the parents panicked. They could have assumed if they were to call for medical/police that because of the fathers previous charges that they would not be believed and would be blamed for the child’s death… Then proceeded to hide or get rid of his body and make up this elaborate story to cover up the fact that they disposed of the body. This could explain why they seem so off, disassociated, and like they are hiding something. They feel guilty like his death is their fault and did not want to be blamed. He looks like he had a few medical/physical issues and it’s not out of the realm of possibility that he could have just passed away in his sleep.
I’m not saying this is what happened but it’s a possibility. Don’t come for me just another POV. Either way if they were involved in disposing of him they deserve to be held accountable for their actions. I just hope this case comes to a resolve soon because I have a 2 month old and this situation absolutely terrifies me.

JMO

No Mandy,
Only people who harbor guilt do things like this . If he died , they too, would be relying on the same experts we do to prove their innocence .
If you wake up in the middle of what could be considered a crime scene and your innocent of any crime or lesser ones. Would you put you self though this crap? Because your baby died overnight ? Most people want to know WHY!

 

[ChatteringBirds]

No one stages a kidnapping because of SIDs. All parents would call for help for SIDs. Let's be realistic. JMO.

 

[ttjo]

“I woke up here on the floor and I didn’t see Emmanuel.”

She said she had a black eye when she woke up.
Dark past of 'kidnapped' tot’s dad - as search team says 'something's not right'

and then she ran around her truck and then went into the store and asked them "have you seen a baby? or anyone with a baby". come on. how about "call 911 someone stole my baby?"
I dont think Id leave the spot, Id just scream, its ridiculous at this point.