CA CA - Emmanuel Haro, 7-months, reported kidnapped 7:30pm from Big 5 parking lot, Yucaipa Blvd, Yucaipa, 14 Aug 2025

[detective.moon]

The surname seems to be German. I know folks have been speculating about English possibly being the mother's second language. Are they from a German speaking country perhaps? Not really relevant to anything. Except that it makes the fact she is blaming the supposed kidnapping on a mysterious Mexican seem even more Papini-esque (as opposed to it being the case of a Latina throwing other immigrants under the bus to cover up her own wrongdoing.)

fwiw i think her english sounds more as if it’s influenced by spanish than german to me. jmo as someone who speaks a little bit of both.

 

[Skigh]

I thought it said 180 days work release program, not just jail?

ETA
Jake Haro was sentenced to 180 days in the sheriff’s work-release program, given a suspended four-year prison sentence and was ordered to attend a child abuser treatment program. Vanessa Haro was sentenced to 120 days in the work-release program and ordered to attend the child abuser treatment program.

He should have been sentenced to 180 years ,not days. What ever sentence given ,he should have been prohibited from being left unsupervised with young children

 

[ttjo]

These classes aren’t intended for this level of abuse though, it’s expected these parents go to jail,

Well thats good to know that its a different class. These ones sound like they have no outcome measures and are almost like comm service hours and once you complete you get your kids back, ( just going through the motions)
There has to be a reason for the suspended sentence, some kind of rationale.

 

[Gigglingtoes]

This article says that both parents were charged

I just want to share something because I think it might give people a different mindset about these situations and abusers.

I have a friend who worked nights and she had a baby. The dad has night duty and she had daytime. The baby was a newbornabout 3-4 mos old being. One night after getting off work, the baby would not stop crying. She tried everything to calm her and figure out what was wrong but she felt the crying had become more so lately and wanted to make sure she was okay.

She took her to the hospital feeling that she was doing the right thing as a mom trying to help her baby and the doctors xrays etc and found that her daughters legs and ribs etc all were in different stages of healing. Her bones had been being broken since she went back to work. Then when faced with this accusation of abuse, she couldn’t fathom and after denying it- her kids dad denied it. Where did that leave police? Punishing them both. They could not PROVE which parent it was she was devastated and lost her job and car trying to make all the appointments they made for her plan to get her daughter back and all the classes she had to take but she did it. Worst part? Dude still was able to have custody bc again, they couldn’t prove who it was. We all knew it was him but yeah. I could see Vanessa not knowing the same as my friend. It’s possible. Babies can’t talk.

 

[303gmf]

He should have been sentenced to 180 years ,not days. What ever sentence given ,he should have been prohibited from being left unsupervised with young children

Or the ability to impregnate!!

 

[TMich6811]

Well thats good to know that its a different class. These ones sound like they have no outcome measures and are almost like comm service hours and once you complete you get your kids back, ( just going through the motions)
There has to be a reason for the suspended sentence, some kind of rationale. Maybe they couldnt prove it wasnt an accident?

I can’t speak for the state, but typically what happens is that there’s a range of intervention provided. So on one end of the spectrum, There are basic parenting classes and on the other end of the spectrum there is full removal with supervised visits. In between there are things like parenting at different levels, counseling, anger management etc and the therapist and staff and provide high-level intervention typically in the home

ETA but none of that should have been relevant here because it should at surface appearance been handled differently.

 

[ttjo]

I just want to share something because I think it might give people a different mindset about these situations and abusers.

I have a friend who worked nights and she had a baby. The dad has night duty and she had daytime. The baby was a newbornabout 3-4 mos old being. One night after getting off work, the baby would not stop crying. She tried everything to calm her and figure out what was wrong but she felt the crying had become more so lately and wanted to make sure she was okay.

She took her to the hospital feeling that she was doing the right thing as a mom trying to help her baby and the doctors xrays etc and found that her daughters legs and ribs etc all were in different stages of healing. Her bones had been being broken since she went back to work. Then when faced with this accusation of abuse, she couldn’t fathom and after denying it- her kids dad denied it. Where did that leave police? Punishing them both. They could not PROVE with parent it was she was devastated and lost her job and car trying to make all the appointments they made for her plan to get her daughter back and all the classes she had to take but she did it. Worst part? Dude still was able to have custody bc again, they couldn’t prove who it was. We all knew it was him but yeah. I could see Vanessa not knowing the same as my friend. It’s possible. Babies can’t talk.

yes, something like ths makes sense to me, b/c they couldnt prove who did it.
I know of a case where 5 guys surrounded a young man in vancouver he was stabbed and died, it was all captured on video surveillance, but b/c they couldnt prove who delivered the fatal stab, they all got charged with a much lesser offence.
maybe this was similar to the case @giggling toes mentioned, couldnt prove which one did it and both were charged, that, at least provides some explanation.

 

[katydid23]

He should have been sentenced to 180 years ,not days. What ever sentence given ,he should have been prohibited from being left unsupervised with young children

Agreed. So how is it that Haro had 6 children living in his home, when poor Emmanuel 'went missing?' He should not have been anywhere near children, let alone living with 6 of them under his care.

I do not believe his 'story' about dropping his 10 week old baby " onto the kitchen sink partition" while bathing, resulting in broken ribs, etc. Why would you be holding a baby up high over that partition when bathing her? It makes no sense.

And if it did happen [which I doubt]----why didn't he call for help? Surely you'd know that a tiny infant would need medical care if they were dropped onto a porcelain partition?

 

[TMich6811]

I just want to share something because I think it might give people a different mindset about these situations and abusers.

I have a friend who worked nights and she had a baby. The dad has night duty and she had daytime. The baby was a newbornabout 3-4 mos old being. One night after getting off work, the baby would not stop crying. She tried everything to calm her and figure out what was wrong but she felt the crying had become more so lately and wanted to make sure she was okay.

She took her to the hospital feeling that she was doing the right thing as a mom trying to help her baby and the doctors xrays etc and found that her daughters legs and ribs etc all were in different stages of healing. Her bones had been being broken since she went back to work. Then when faced with this accusation of abuse, she couldn’t fathom and after denying it- her kids dad denied it. Where did that leave police? Punishing them both. They could not PROVE which parent it was she was devastated and lost her job and car trying to make all the appointments they made for her plan to get her daughter back and all the classes she had to take but she did it. Worst part? Dude still was able to have custody bc again, they couldn’t prove who it was. We all knew it was him but yeah. I could see Vanessa not knowing the same as my friend. It’s possible. Babies can’t talk.

Definitely a possibility, I agree. I’m team I’ll give her benefit of the doubt when I know more and more details of that case come out

 

[Cardgame]

I just want to share something because I think it might give people a different mindset about these situations and abusers.

I have a friend who worked nights and she had a baby. The dad has night duty and she had daytime. The baby was a newbornabout 3-4 mos old being. One night after getting off work, the baby would not stop crying. She tried everything to calm her and figure out what was wrong but she felt the crying had become more so lately and wanted to make sure she was okay.

She took her to the hospital feeling that she was doing the right thing as a mom trying to help her baby and the doctors xrays etc and found that her daughters legs and ribs etc all were in different stages of healing. Her bones had been being broken since she went back to work. Then when faced with this accusation of abuse, she couldn’t fathom and after denying it- her kids dad denied it. Where did that leave police? Punishing them both. They could not PROVE which parent it was she was devastated and lost her job and car trying to make all the appointments they made for her plan to get her daughter back and all the classes she had to take but she did it. Worst part? Dude still was able to have custody bc again, they couldn’t prove who it was. We all knew it was him but yeah. I could see Vanessa not knowing the same as my friend. It’s possible. Babies can’t talk.

Yes I was thinking that could be similar in the case of Jake haro and his ex partner. He accused her, it was hard to prove, and the fact that the baby also had malnutrition perhaps made the judge suspect the mother and/or both had been neglectful.

Seems like a reason for neither of them to have access to the baby though, not a lighter sentence for both. But maybe they go down the middle when they can't prove. Or maybe they pled guilty and that made it seem like they were full of regret and determined to do better and that lessened the sentence.

 

[kid_a]

These classes aren’t intended for this level of abuse though, it’s expected these parents go to jail, and while we reunification exists , generally these should be one and done situations. these classes are meant for parent who hit because they don’t understand discipline or need resources or minor intervention not cause brain damage in an infant

CPS is a big giant bag of failure in every single state, but they were not intended to handle people like this. Jail was meant to. Knowing what we know about CPS workers, I have no doubt that they probably dropped the ball in this case just like every other case, but the judge and DA should have charges against against them as far as I’m concerned, and until we start holding people legally accountable for doing things like this, it doesn’t change

Having had personal experience with CPS in Socal (as one of the many children they failed to protect), I would venture to say that they're among the most useless in the country. See: Gabriel Fernandez and Anthony Avalos.

 

[Gigglingtoes]

Yes I was thinking that could be similar in the case of Jake haro and his ex partner. He accused her, it was hard to prove, and the fact that the baby also had malnutrition perhaps made the judge suspect the mother and/or both had been neglectful.

Seems like a reason for neither of them to have access to the baby though, not a lighter sentence for both. But maybe they go down the middle when they can't prove. Or maybe they pled guilty and that made it seem like they were full of regret and determined to do better and that lessened the sentence.

I have a feeling this wrecked Vanessa’s life for a while and is why you don’t see her popping up. Getting reunited with your child after that abuse takes a lot of work and the emotional aspect and feeling that everyone is judging you impacts your mental health. Not to mention the severe guilt. I think if she speaks we will see this was part of her life she never wants to relive. Imo

 

[TMich6811]

Having had personal experience with CPS in Socal (as one of the many children they failed to protect), I would venture to say that they're among the most useless in the country. See: Gabriel Fernandez and Anthony Avalos.

Agreed. Their known incompetence is top of the iceberg - it’s so much worse than the public will ever know. By far the worst system I’ve ever seen

 

[Soulmagent]

Definitely a possibility, I agree. I’m team I’ll give her benefit of the doubt when I know more and more details of that case come out

Becky knew .
No benefits for her.

 

[Skigh]

I have a feeling this wrecked Vanessa’s life for a while and is why you don’t see her popping up. Getting reunited with your child after that abuse takes a lot of work and the emotional aspect and feeling that everyone is judging you impacts your mental health. Not to mention the severe guilt. I think if she speaks we will see this was part of her life she never wants to relive. Imo

I am not yet ready to give her a pass. She must have noticed her baby being in pain and bruises on her body.

 

[kid_a]

I am not yet ready to give her a pass. She must have noticed her baby being in pain and bruises on her body.

This. Babies let you know if they're in pain or uncomfortable! My baby screams if the temperature of her bassinet is off. Her baby definitely would have been screaming in pain in a way that no mother (or human being with a soul) could ignore.

 

[TMich6811]

I am not yet ready to give her a pass. She must have noticed her baby being in pain and bruises on her body.

And it wasn’t a 1 time event

 

[Gigglingtoes]

I am not yet ready to give her a pass. She must have noticed her baby being in pain and bruises on her body.

I’m not saying give her a pass. I’m just sharing another view.

 

[Breezyflavor]

Please don't post personal pictures in an effort to illustrate the point you're trying to make. It'll derail the thread and people might focus on your pictures and not the topic of the thread

 

[Izzylizzy]

And yet he still found someone who would have more children with him!! I wonder if Rebecca or any of her family knew about the abuse and how serious it was?

How the $&?! Is this guy not in PRISON? How?!!!!!

Since RH already had 4 children when she met Jake I gather the pickings were real slim for her to find a husband.

It was reported that their 2 yr old daughter is now in state custody, thankfully.

Has anything been reported on the age of the other 4 kids, their father(s) and where they are now?
imo