CA CA - Emmanuel Haro, 7-months, reported kidnapped 7:30pm from Big 5 parking lot, Yucaipa Blvd, Yucaipa, 14 Aug 2025

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Well, I don't like her or trust her, tbh. But I don't want to see violence, no matter who it is against.

I do think she's in a dangerous position unless she talks and helps put him behind bars.

But without a car and phone, that isolates her more. I hope LE or a lawyer are providing a lifeline for her to easily pick up.

jmopinion
I agree. Plus she is the one IMO more likely to "break" if she is in police custody and feels safe to talk. IMO she may have been giving LE clues when she used the "hola" and claims she saw white....look at HIM.
 
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I Googled "7 month old baby photos" and I was shocked at the difference between those photos, especially their faces, and the photos of Emmanuel. I notice he is never seen smiling, he looks so distant, and his eyes are glassy. Poor baby : (
 
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And the case against the father wouldn't go away if the baby wasn't at that game, which I don't think he was. The father would have to explain his knowledge - and lying - about that. imo

I think the father will turn on the mom, though. jmo

jmopinion
Has there been anything released about who travelled to the game together, if she was seen outside the vehicle at the game and for how long, before leaving to the big 5?
If she was out of the vehicle without the baby, how far away from the vehicle was she? It would be nice to have some context if there are witnesses saying they didnt see the baby at the game. So far I have not heard one person say they saw the baby there, yet somehow people stlll come up with some explanation
 
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Has there been anything released about who travelled to the game together, if she was seen outside the vehicle at the game and for how long, before leaving to the big 5?
If she was out of the vehicle without the baby, how far away from the vehicle was she? It would be nice to have some context if there are witnesses saying they didnt see the baby at the game. So far I have not heard one person say they saw the baby there, yet somehow people stlll come up with some explanation
unfortunately we haven't seen a lot of witnesses speak to the press to give us that information. I am hoping LE know a lot more than we do.
 
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Replying to myself since I cannot edit post. This is the original video with gramma off to the left. About 1:40 you can see her lips moving. Concentrate on her while listening to RH speaking. Am I nuts, or does this come across as scripted?

It certainly does appear as if grandma is mouthing the same words her daughter is saying.
"ready... hola... remember"
 
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It certainly does appear as if grandma is mouthing the same words her daughter is saying.
"ready... hola... remember"
What bothers me is how perfectly synced they seem to be. Makes me wonder if this script was put together well ahead, and if so how involved might she be? That was the day after the claimed abduction and they had overnight to get the story down and insane flyer (IMO) knocked out.
 
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Updates from San Bernardino Sheriff's Dept.


"While Emmanuel’s father has retained an attorney, if the parents choose to work with detectives, we welcome their cooperation as we continue efforts to locate Emmanuel."

Translation: the parents are currently not cooperating with LE to locate their allegedly kidnapped baby. 🤔
 
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What bothers me is how perfectly synced they seem to be. Makes me wonder if this script was put together well ahead, and if so how involved might she be? That was the day after the claimed abduction and they had overnight to get the story down and insane flyer (IMO) knocked out.
In granny's defense, my mother-in-law has the same tendency to mouth what other people are saying when they're speaking. It's a condition called echolalia. Maybe granny had heard the story so many times by this interview it's just the way she responded? It's hard to know why, but she's definitely mouthing the words RH is saying.
 
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Updates from San Bernardino Sheriff's Dept.

from the link:

Our investigators have followed up on the reported sightings of 7-month-old Emmanuel Haro, but he has not yet been located....

We are also aware of the fire reported at a neighbor’s property near the Haro home in Cabazon and have been in contact with the investigators of that incident. At this time, we have no information indicating the fire is related, and we will continue to communicate with fire investigators as their investigation progresses.
 
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Replying to myself since I cannot edit post. This is the original video with gramma off to the left. About 1:40 you can see her lips moving. Concentrate on her while listening to RH speaking. Am I nuts, or does this come across as scripted?

You are not nuts (or you and I both are!!!). The grandma looks to be mouthing RH's words.
 
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In the very first post by the San Bernadino County Sheriff they reported that he's cross-eyed, which is known as Strabismus.
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But we don’t know if there is a root condition or cause of his strabismus. PP was speaking to this I believe
 
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You are not nuts (or you and I both are!!!). The grandma looks to be mouthing RH's words.
I wish that media outlet would release raw video that is not edited to pieces AND maybe has a wider view. Anybody there at the time in theory would have noticed gramma parroting daughter.
 
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Replying to myself since I cannot edit post. This is the original video with gramma off to the left. About 1:40 you can see her lips moving. Concentrate on her while listening to RH speaking. Am I nuts, or does this come across as scripted?


You are not nuts! Wow! I see it too. Is it scripted?
 
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It it *possible* she didn't know about his history.
I think his previous case, and his probation, and legal issues, overlap the time that Rebecca began dating him. She'd have to know about tha history of that criminal abuse.IMO
 
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What is the age difference between the parents?
 
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No we don't -- but we do know that strabismus is a very common eye condition in young children and not generally caused by external factors.

We also know it can be caused by fetal alcohol system and TBI





 
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Given we already know he caused brain damage to an infant I think it’s very much within the realm of appropriate conversation to say it’s likely this infant may have experienced similar abuse resulting in a change in physical functioning
 
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