Deceased/Not Found CA - Heidi Planck, 39, left son’s football game in Downey, dog found in Los Angeles, 17 Oct 2021 #4

[Ducky123]

And there is a cannabis farm biz registered to a H + F addresses

Farm-level stuff is definitely shadier than what CuraLeaf is. CuraLeaf is a publically traded company and would have a staff of lawyers handling their business and registrations (and contracts, which is why I don’t see HP being involved in the finder’s fee contract dispute). A farm registered at H+F means there’s no business address and it could be like a growing weed on a patio kinda farm. Or it could be a legit one. Very California JMO of course

 

[SuperScout]

Farm-level stuff is definitely shadier than what CuraLeaf is. CuraLeaf is a publically traded company and would have a staff of lawyers handling their business and registrations (and contracts, which is why I don’t see HP being involved in the finder’s fee contract dispute). A farm registered at H+F means there’s no business address and it could be like a growing weed on a patio kinda farm. Or it could be a legit one. Very California JMO of course

Well, her name is on the Arcadian incorp filings

 

[Ducky123]

Well, her name is on the Arcadian incorp filings

Right, but I just mean if both companies are entering into a consulting agreement related to a several hundred million dollar deal and no one had a lawyer look it over…this is the least of their problems. Ha. But I’m just saying that unless HP was responsible for drafting a contract by herself, I don’t understand why she would be blamed for any of this. The case also settled.

 

[itscosmic]

It's not just a cannabis farm registered to H&F. Looks like there are cannabis investors registered to the 40th floor as well. Lots of cannabis connections in the building. I would agree that the super rich are not living at H&F, but very possible they are using apartments as offices for their startups, etc.

Unfortunately, the cannabis industry is still the wild west because of federal regulations, so it can still be quite shady.

 

[SuperScout]

Right, but I just mean if both companies are entering into a consulting agreement related to a several hundred million dollar deal and no one had a lawyer look it over…this is the least of their problems. Ha. But I’m just saying that unless HP was responsible for drafting a contract by herself, I don’t understand why she would be blamed for any of this. The case also settled.

Not blamed....maybe a message being sent

 

[JnRyan]

So far as I know, JW is the only one publicly saying JS is still being investigated. JW also said the SEC called him recently. He also said some of HP's friends have been called by the SEC. I am not sure I believe that or if they got calls, I'm not so sure it was really the SEC.

While this is entirely JMO, I expect LE may have expected a crime scene partly based on things JW said. He's been pretty blunt about saying publicly that what happened to HP relates to her working for JS. I don't know why he seems so sure of that. But given what he's said publicly, no telling what he's said to LE privately.

JMO

Simple enough to prove. The SEC does interviews over the phone. But there is an SEC form the interviewer is required to send to the person being interviewed after the call. None of these reporters have asked JW or her friends to produce the form. Not very good 'investigative' journalism.

 

[Satchie]

Good point. But what would have been overly suspicious on the 29th that wasn’t when he made the report. What further info/evidence did they have 29th as opposed to days before? That’s what I was trying to nail down!

It was recently revealed that October 29 was the day the case was transferred to LA Robbery & Homicide Division. That same day they must have obtained a search warrant to enter her home and seize evidence, including electronics.

Purely my opinion, but in a place like LA, homicide division officers don't forcibly enter a private home, univited by the occupant, without first drawing their guns. IMO, they don't huddle and discuss 'no one's inviting us in, should we draw our guns? What's your opinion, Rod? Judy, you want to weigh in on the scenario that there might be some crazed murderer waiting to ambush us?" No, I think they draw their guns every time, just in case.

Also IMO, homicide division don't take over the investigation of a missing person case without some verifiable, police-worthy evidence that it is very, very likely a homicide case. They don't have the resources to waste on people who have decided to go missing or have miscommunicated, or have committed suicide, no matter how anxious friends and family might be. There are thousands of missing persons cases, but IMO homicide division doesn't get involved until there is strong evidence of foul play.

IMO, LE got footage or other evidence from H&F building that we don't know about, which made it a priority for homicide division to search her home and seize all her communications, because that's where homicide detectives start.

JMO.

I would add IMO, much of the apparent 'narrative' on here comes from news media who are just repeating what JW has told them. IMO he has his own spin that it all revolves around JS, and has been pushing that angle, as have others.

However, influencing the press, particularly scandal sheets, is one thing, influencing LE is another. In my opinion, LA homicide detectives know what they're doing and aren't swayed by the opinions of ex-spouses, even when they are somewhat successful hairdressers.

 

[StarRemy8]

See the article I link in post #623 - they say three times that the investigation is 'current.' Not 'over' in 2018/9.

Don't get me wrong...I love DM and while they can be a great source as sometimes they get stories first or have great pics etc., as far as getting facts straight they are wrong a lot of the time. And they tend to sensationalize everything and border tabloidish reporting...things like "SEC investigating her boss for 43million" "Psychotic behavior, mental illness and drug abuse history" "fraudster boss with connections to Hunter Biden and Gambino crime family" - these are all clickbait and exaggerated headlines, not 100% factual.

There is nothing on the SEC site that says anything other than that they chose to civilly sue JS as opposed to press criminal charges and his "punishment" was to pay back the monies he had stolen which was decided in 2019. He challenged that by trying to get the civil suit dismissed but SEC denied that motion in 2020 saying they had enough evidence that he was deceptive and involved with a certain amount of the money being stolen and used personally and that it still had to be paid back.

But there is nothing further going on we know of and nowhere else saying anything is active other than JW and news that picks up on that and other outlets repeating those claims. So until I have proof/evidence from SEC or serious sources other than JW's mouth and news like DM and The Sun etc. (who also have apparently interviewed him) I am just not believing that is the case MOO.

 

[cvaldez1975]

I would 100% ask in a nosy way lol. If your friend (who has a license and a car) asks you to pick them up from a random apartment complex, how can you not ask?? Like not even a little bit curious? You definitely may be right that the friend might know but chose not to share at that time. But then why bring it up at all to the media?

I don’t remember the last time I followed a case that had so much confusing, contradictory, poorly reported information. I wish most of the reporting didn’t come from the daily mail and the sun.

honestly at the time she was prob hoping she was ok somewhere and didnt want to "put her business out there" on the news.

 

[Satchie]

Interesting to me how both the Sun and Daily Mail have this reported, but NOT the MSM in the USA. Could it be that there is a certain subject they do not want to have in the discussion?

Exactly, mainstream media care about their reputation as credible news sources, while the Fail and Sun don't.
The Daily Mail has ‘mastered the art of running stories that aren’t true’, Wikipedia founder Jimmy Wales says
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/05/19/daily-mail-jimmy-wales-fake-news-wikipedia-wikitribune.html

 

[NCWatcher]

Good point. But what would have been overly suspicious on the 29th that wasn’t when he made the report. What further info/evidence did they have 29th as opposed to days before? That’s what I was trying to nail down!

Seems to me the main evidentiary thing that was different by the 29th vs the 20th when JW made the report was finding the dog and the H&F connection. Not sure exactly what day JW got Seven back but he said he started going through the phone the 25th and found the messages from the dog-finders pretty quickly. So my guess is it had to do with something at the H&F and I do think JW's continued talking about danger from JS. I'm not saying his talking was enough to sway LE by itself but along with other stuff....

JMO

 

[cvaldez1975]

JW said Heidi got monthly bonuses of $1,500. I’m not going to lie, it crossed my mind that those “bonuses” were from escorting or something similar, and not her day job. Jmo

but if they were earned that way, wouldnt it be cash? i surely wouldnt claim that on an income and expense declaration.

 

[StarRemy8]

I think the raid thing has been overblown. The media has just said sources say they were expecting to come into a crime scene. But who’s to say the sources are nosy neighbors? It’s probably standard procedure for them in this situation to have their guns drawn. I’m not sure though why that particular unit is involved. It could be because of her work and related investigations.

I guess the only thing that would make sense is that between the 20th MP report and 29th raid they were aware that dog was at H+F and obtained a search warrant and found evidence at the building to get the higher up division to take over case. I guess what I am confused about is timeline bc for some reason I thought it took quite a bit of time from LE finding out her dog was in H+F to actually getting the warrant they were requesting but maybe it was quicker or we were led to think it was taking longer than it did?

Do we know when we first heard about her dog being found at the building, like the actual date it was first reported where we heard the name of the building? Or when it was reported that the building was being "uncooperative" until LE produced a warrant? I don't think we know when they got the actual warrant though either way right?

 

[Meligator]

Yes, the raid on her home is very unusual. They must have had probable cause of a crime in order to get a search warrant.... we just don't know if that probable cause relates to the crime of her murder or some other crime (not accusing her of a crime, just that he home may have contained evidence of some crime). I mean even JW removing her electronic devices from her home might be considered a crime of theft I suppose.... could be lots of things.

 

[Gobstopper]

An $11M finders fee. That was disputed.

I think this could anger some people who had to pay $11 M and the cannabis industry seems prime for organized crime involvement. Just seems this tangled web is more complicated and high level than it appears. MOO

 

[Gobstopper]

Right, but I just mean if both companies are entering into a consulting agreement related to a several hundred million dollar deal and no one had a lawyer look it over…this is the least of their problems. Ha. But I’m just saying that unless HP was responsible for drafting a contract by herself, I don’t understand why she would be blamed for any of this. The case also settled.

But what if HP was seen to have an indirect connection to the SEC and deemed to be a betrayer? Just MOO

 

[Gobstopper]

An $11M finders fee. That was disputed.

These investors are a huge source of revenue and if they continue to be investors in subsequent ventures, will a finders fee continue to be sought? Investors are everything to a business. MOO

 

[Curiosa20]

An $11M finders fee. That was disputed.

Heidi is listed as a member - one of 3- of that particular LLc. It’s the only one she is on like that- the rest she just filed paperwork and used the home address.
Interesting.

 

[Satchie]

I guess the only thing that would make sense is that between the 20th MP report and 29th raid they were aware that dog was at H+F and obtained a search warrant and found evidence at the building to get the higher up division to take over case. I guess what I am confused about is timeline bc for some reason I thought it took quite a bit of time from LE finding out her dog was in H+F to actually getting the warrant they were requesting but maybe it was quicker or we were led to think it was taking longer than it did?

Do we know when we first heard about her dog being found at the building, like the actual date it was first reported where we heard the name of the building? Or when it was reported that the building was being "uncooperative" until LE produced a warrant? I don't think we know when they got the actual warrant though either way right?

There is a timeline thread if you want to check dates.

IMO, when the address was given to JW so he could pick up the dog, he/friends immediately went there and asked to search for her car/get video footage, and security told them no chance, only police with a warrant.

For some reason, there was a fairly, IMO, emotional reaction by the friends, I will try to be kind and say they were only trying to help, as we all know from reading Nancy Drew that we need to take immediate action to rescue our friends, even when they've been missing for a few days.

Anyway, later, when the media was interested, this horrifying response by building security was relayed to them, and it was printed, and reprinted, and reprinted, to fill up the content of news articles, because there wasn't much else to write. And some readers were equally alarmed and repeated it over and over again, for days.

Meanwhile, I expect, LE wrote up their search warrant, served it, the head office okayed it, and they got on with examining the evidence, ignoring all the amateur detectives exclaiming to each other how awful it was, that nasty building, tsk, tsk.

JMO

 

[Curiosa20]

An $11M finders fee. That was disputed.

Heidi is listed as a member - one of 3- of that particular LLc. It’s the only one she is on like that- the rest she just filed paperwork and used the home address.
Interesting.

An $11M finders fee. That was disputed.

And settled later

There is a timeline thread if you want to check dates.

IMO, when the address was given to JW so he could pick up the dog, he/friends immediately went there and asked to search for her car/get video footage, and security told them no chance, only police with a warrant.

For some reason, there was a fairly, IMO, emotional reaction by the friends, I will try to be kind and say they were only trying to help, as we all know from reading Nancy Drew that we need to take immediate action to rescue our friends, even when they've been missing for a few days.

Anyway, later, when the media was interested, this horrifying response by building security was relayed to them, and it was printed, and reprinted, and reprinted, to fill up the content of news articles, because there wasn't much else to write. And some readers were equally alarmed and repeated it over and over again, for days.

Meanwhile, I expect, LE wrote up their search warrant, served it, the head office okayed it, and they got on with examining the evidence, ignoring all the amateur detectives exclaiming to each other how awful it was, that nasty building, tsk, tsk.

Tsk, tsk.
It would have helped if JW didn’t wait 10 days to speak with the media, upon the media’s initiative when the MP bulletin went out. Her friends were seemingly held back… Nancy Drew would be dismayed.