Deceased/Not Found CA - Heidi Planck, 39, left son’s football game in Downey, dog found in Los Angeles, 17 Oct 2021 #5

  • #681
Given that this is from Dec. 9, I don't see it as 'current' status....

That's quite true. But the original post saying the LAPD was asking for "volunteers" to search the landfill stated the information came from "the most recent" LA Magazine. The Dec 9 issue appears to be the most recent issue reporting on HP. If you have something more recent please post!

My point was simply that it appears to me Homicide was seeking volunteers from within the Dept, not from the general public. Asking for the public's help just wouldn't be done IMO because of chain of evidence concerns. Also people could get hurt in a landfill. The searching there isn't at all like grid searches in fields where members of the public might be used.
JMO
 
  • #682
I have no evidence of this, just speculation, but wondering if possibly HP was acting as a whistleblower for the SEC—she would stand to potentially make a lot of money that way (portion of recovered funds). Was she a whistleblower in Galanis case? Not sure about her involvement at time of charges, but his settlement might explain where some of her money came from possible.
 
  • #683
I have no evidence of this, just speculation, but wondering if possibly HP was acting as a whistleblower for the SEC—she would stand to potentially make a lot of money that way (portion of recovered funds). Was she a whistleblower in Galanis case? Not sure about her involvement at time of charges, but his settlement might explain where some of her money came from possible.

He pled guilty to the charges.

JG, 49, pled guilty to three counts of conspiracy to commit securities fraud, each carrying a maximum sentence of five years in prison and a maximum fine of $250,000 or twice the gross gain or loss from the offense; two counts of securities fraud, each of which carries a maximum sentence of 20 years in prison and a maximum fine of $5,000,000 or twice the gross gain or loss from the offense; one count of investment adviser fraud, which carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison and a maximum fine of $10,000 or twice the gross gain or loss from the offense; and one count of conspiracy to commit investment adviser fraud, which carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison and a maximum fine of $10,000 or twice the gross gain or loss from the offense.

Jason Galanis Pleads Guilty In Manhattan Federal Court To Multiple Fraudulent Schemes

... sentenced to 189 months [15.75 years] in prison for his participation ...
In addition to the prison term, JG, 50, was sentenced to three years of supervised release. JG was also ordered to forfeit $80,869,117.10, as well as his interest in properties in New York and Los Angeles, and to make restitution in the amount of $80,817,513.43.
Jason Galanis Sentenced In Manhattan Federal Court For Multiple Securities Fraud Schemes

Checking the dates of his known crimes, none fall within the time frame when HP was Exe Asst. to JS.

However, this is a bit frightening ...

DerekGalanis, whose brother Jason was a business partner of Heidi Planck’s boss Jason Sugarman, said he did not know if Sugarman was involved in her disappearance

‘I think it made my brother feel powerful because Sugarman is connected through marriage to the Gubers.

‘Did Sugarman have something to do with Heidi’s disappearance?

‘I don’t know, but I do know my brother and father talked about killing me.

‘Why? Simply because they did not want to pay me my share from the scam.
Missing mom Heidi Planck's boss did business with fraudster linked to Hunter Biden and Gambino mafia - California News Times
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  • #684
He pled guilty to the charges.

JG, 49, pled guilty to three counts of conspiracy to commit securities fraud, each carrying a maximum sentence of five years in prison and a maximum fine of $250,000 or twice the gross gain or loss from the offense; two counts of securities fraud, each of which carries a maximum sentence of 20 years in prison and a maximum fine of $5,000,000 or twice the gross gain or loss from the offense; one count of investment adviser fraud, which carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison and a maximum fine of $10,000 or twice the gross gain or loss from the offense; and one count of conspiracy to commit investment adviser fraud, which carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison and a maximum fine of $10,000 or twice the gross gain or loss from the offense.

Jason Galanis Pleads Guilty In Manhattan Federal Court To Multiple Fraudulent Schemes

... sentenced to 189 months [15.75 years] in prison for his participation ...
In addition to the prison term, JG, 50, was sentenced to three years of supervised release. JG was also ordered to forfeit $80,869,117.10, as well as his interest in properties in New York and Los Angeles, and to make restitution in the amount of $80,817,513.43.
Jason Galanis Sentenced In Manhattan Federal Court For Multiple Securities Fraud Schemes

Checking the dates of his known crimes, none fall within the time frame when HP was Exe Asst. to JS.

However, this is a bit frightening ...


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Yes, timing doesn't fit well with HP's work with JS. Also doesn't make sense to kill a whistleblower AFTER SEC has acquired all emails/records/evidence necessary to bring charges.

I still find her financial status interesting--given her lifestyle (housing/car etc). She was clearly someone JS trusted--enough that he put her name on company records and tasked her with bookkeeping etc. I'm not suggesting she was complicit in any fraudulent activity, but perhaps was just an extremely loyal and reliable employee. Was JS paying her a lot more money than JW believed? Or alot more than JW reported in the media? I think it's possible, given her potential value & role in the company (particularly given cost of living in CA). I also wonder if she had life insurance or some time kind of Trust for her son.

On a side note, I personally wouldn't trust anything any of the Galanis's say. It serves DG well, for semblance of credibility/empathy, that he tries to separate himself from his father/brother & appear as their victim. Con 101.
 
  • #685
I just searched the internet for any updates on the search using the timeframe 10 Dec to present and nothing appears in any reputable news source. Of course, I can't read much into that aspect. LE may have been hampered too much by weather. OR they could have found something and forensics testing is pending. I am surprised that I can't find anything in the media regarding the search.
 
  • #686
I hope the complete lack of any news at all for weeks now is not indicative of the progress, or lack thereof, being made by LE in this case. I want to believe that HP's remains will eventually be found, as well as sufficient evidence to successfully prosecute any responsible for her demise, but in the words of Tom Petty, 'the waiting is the hardest part'. JMO
 
  • #687
  • #688
A new Search warrant is being signed and Landfill search will renew next week. LE sources reportedly said they are worried about “missing a clue.”
Search to Resume for Missing West LA Mother Presumed Dead

Thanks for the link!

I don't see in the linked article any mention of a new search warrant. It sounds like to me from the article LE is just continuing on the same landfill search based on the November warrant. I'm also not sure how to interpret this section of the article:

"Several law enforcement sources told NBC4's I-Team that nothing significant had been found to date, and relayed that some investigators -- who've spent day after day raking through tons of trash and debris -- were growing worried they'd missed an important clue."

Assuming the sources were accurate and assuming the article reflects accurately what the sources said, it seems to me saying they are worried they missed an important clue doesn't necessarily mean they think they missed something in the landfill. If they've really found nothing significant that means they've not found her body. Her body would hardly be referred to as "a clue" so I'm afraid they meant they missed something pointing to where her body is and it's becoming clear it's not in the landfill.
JMO
 
  • #689
Thanks for the link!

I don't see in the linked article any mention of a new search warrant. It sounds like to me from the article LE is just continuing on the same landfill search based on the November warrant. I'm also not sure how to interpret this section of the article:

"Several law enforcement sources told NBC4's I-Team that nothing significant had been found to date, and relayed that some investigators -- who've spent day after day raking through tons of trash and debris -- were growing worried they'd missed an important clue."

Assuming the sources were accurate and assuming the article reflects accurately what the sources said, it seems to me saying they are worried they missed an important clue doesn't necessarily mean they think they missed something in the landfill. If they've really found nothing significant that means they've not found her body. Her body would hardly be referred to as "a clue" so I'm afraid they meant they missed something pointing to where her body is and it's becoming clear it's not in the landfill.
JMO
At the end of the video, the reporter says they will resume searching after a fresh search warrant is signed.
 
  • #690
At the end of the video, the reporter says they will resume searching after a fresh search warrant is signed.

Oh, OK. Thanks. I didn't watch the video before. I now have and wonder if it could just be crappy reporting. Why would a new warrant be needed just because it rained and they had to stop searching? Or is it that the warrant was for a specific time period and that period is over?

The main reason I say it's bad reporting though has to do with the point I made before about missing a clue.

The article says:

"Several law enforcement sources told NBC4's I-Team that nothing significant had been found to date, and relayed that some investigators -- who've spent day after day raking through tons of trash and debris -- were growing worried they'd missed an important clue."

But the video says something like "while taking through the trash investigators worry about missing clues."

The video is really not saying the same thing as the article IMO. The second report is saying something so obvious I'm not sure why you'd need to hear it from an inside source. And the first report is suggestive of known problems solving this particular case.

JMO
 
  • #691
The video accompanying this article lends at least some possible credence to parts of the story told to the YouTuber, and reported in the Sun, that has been the source of so much dissent in here. At about the 1:40 mark in the video, it is stated that "police say...evidence suggests that where her body somehow made it into the building's trash dumpster." After reiterating JW's claim, supposedly from LE, that several people were there and know what happened to Heidi, the reporter closes by stating "our law enforcement sources say it's possible Planck died accidentally somehow, but until they find her, or these witnesses, the circumstances may remain a mystery".

I know many are, but I still am not willing to write off Maserati lady's story as complete BS. I think a lot and maybe even most of it probably is, but some of what this report states makes some of her claims of some type of party, and drug overdose and body disposal at least somewhat plausible. JMO

Search to Resume for Missing West LA Mother Presumed Dead
 
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  • #692
The video accompanying this article lends at least some possible credence to parts of the story told to the YouTuber, and reported in the Sun, that has been the source of so much dissent in here. At about the 1:40 mark in the video, it is stated that "police say...evidence suggests that where her body somehow made it into the building's trash dumpster." After reiterating JW's claim, supposedly from LE, that several people were there and know what happened to Heidi, the reporter closes by stating "our law enforcement sources say it's possible Planck died accidentally somehow, but until they find her, or these witnesses, the circumstances may remain a mystery".

I know many are, but I still am not willing to write off Maserati lady's story as complete BS. I think a lot, and maybe even most of it certainly is, but some of what this report states makes some of her claims of some type of party, and drug overdose and body disposal at least somewhat plausible. JMO

Those 'crap rumors' that the local sheriff complained about in the Cassidy Rainwater case come to mind....
 
  • #693
The video accompanying this article lends at least some possible credence to parts of the story told to the YouTuber, and reported in the Sun, that has been the source of so much dissent in here. At about the 1:40 mark in the video, it is stated that "police say...evidence suggests that where her body somehow made it into the building's trash dumpster." After reiterating JW's claim, supposedly from LE, that several people were there and know what happened to Heidi, the reporter closes by stating "our law enforcement sources say it's possible Planck died accidentally somehow, but until they find her, or these witnesses, the circumstances may remain a mystery".

I know many are, but I still am not willing to write off Maserati lady's story as complete BS. I think a lot and maybe even most of it probably is, but some of what this report states makes some of her claims of some type of party, and drug overdose and body disposal at least somewhat plausible. JMO

Search to Resume for Missing West LA Mother Presumed Dead

I'm willing to admit there might be some truth in the Maserati woman's story but I'm far from convinced. It hadn't been said outright by LE that HP went down the chute to the dumpster. But what LE said about a fatal "incident" on Oct 17, forensic evidence at the H&F, and the simultaneous announcement LE was going to search the landfill certainly provided a framework for a trash chute story. So I'm not sure this report increases my faith the Maserati woman's story is a first-hand account. It could easily be a fabrication based on news reports & rumors.

I'm also a little surprised to hear it leaked that LE doesn't have a pretty good idea happened yet. (Or at least it sounds that way to me if they are saying "the circumstances remain a mystery.") Perhaps that's to get people to let down their guard?

JMO
 
  • #694
When that story came out, didn't LE already mentioned the trash thing? I think so.
 
  • #695
When that story came out, didn't LE already mentioned the trash thing? I think so.

I don't think so. And when I search online for terms Heidi Planck, trash chute, landfill I only get the Maserati woman's story and a bunch of social media/blogger sites that mention all 3. (Plenty of MSM stories about HP and LE searching the landfill)

Thinking "trash chute" wasn't a big leap given what LE did say (lots of speculation about that here on WS and hints posted from forbidden sources) but I don't believe LE ever mentioned it. At least I can find no mention from back in Nov.
JMO
 
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  • #696
Missing Heidi Planck: Detectives resuming landfill search next week

"Due to the rain, however, the landfill operation had to be temporarily stopped in December, Jonathan Tippet, commanding officer of the LAPD's Robbery-Homicide Division, told Fox News Digital."

"We will resume next week. An update will occur if we have a significant find or information associated to the investigation," Tippet said."
 
  • #697
How long will LE keep on searching through the landfill site?

They've been doing it for well over a month.

At what point do they say "We can find no trace of her".....??

It's a tough one to call, but it will have to be called....
 
  • #698
How long will LE keep on searching through the landfill site?

They've been doing it for well over a month.

At what point do they say "We can find no trace of her".....??

It's a tough one to call, but it will have to be called....

I agree that difficult decision may need to be made. I don't envy those who would have to make it. But I disagree with the statement "They've been doing it for well over a month."

I don't think we know exactly how long they have been searching the landfill. At least I don't. But it seems to be generally agreed LE began the search on Nov 29. And here is a Dec 9 link suggesting that the search had to be called off because of rain.

Stormy weather suspends search for Heidi Planck's body in landfill

While LE didn't make a big announcement about the search suspension due to rain the way they made an announcement about the initial start (although lots of articles about the soon-to-resume search refer to "December rain" calling it off) it sounds like the initial search may have lasted slightly less than 2 weeks. (Nov 29-Dec 9 is 11 days including weekend days.) I don't think we know whether they went back to the search after the Dec 9 suspension but my guess is no.

And so whether the search might need to be permanently suspended IMO depends not on the time passed since Nov 29 so much but on how much of the DTLA/H&F trash dumped in the area during the critical period has been searched. We're all aware the search didn't begin for over 40 days after the purported fatal "incident" at the H&F so there could be lots of more recent trash in the general area. But after the trash area where Oct 17-18 trash would have been put has been searched, it doesn't seem more searching of trash would make much sense. But I don't think they've been actively searching the landfill for anything like "over a month."

JMO
 
  • #699
Unfortunately, HP went missing in mid-October yet LEO did not begin sifting through the landfill until the end of November. Consequently, it is likely LE searchers had to dig deep into the rumble to get to the garbage from the day when she went missing, Sunday, October 17, 2021.

By this time, can we due to decomp, expect possible long bones or the skull to be found? I'm not familiar with many cases that involved landfill excavations, especially when such a long time lapsed between her going missing and when the search began. 6 weeks later, is a guess.

Landfill Search Began Nov 29, 2021 (?)
LAPD searching landfill for evidence in Heidi Planck’s disappearance

LAPD Dec 9, 2021 Update
Robbery-Homicide Division Missing Woman Investigation NR21336bb - LAPD Online
I agree that difficult decision may need to be made. I don't envy those who would have to make it. But I disagree with the statement "They've been doing it for well over a month."

I don't think we know exactly how long they have been searching the landfill. At least I don't. But it seems to be generally agreed LE began the search on Nov 29. And here is a Dec 9 link suggesting that the search had to be called off because of rain.

Stormy weather suspends search for Heidi Planck's body in landfill

While LE didn't make a big announcement about the search suspension due to rain the way they made an announcement about the initial start (although lots of articles about the soon-to-resume search refer to "December rain" calling it off) it sounds like the initial search may have lasted slightly less than 2 weeks. (Nov 29-Dec 9 is 11 days including weekend days.) I don't think we know whether they went back to the search after the Dec 9 suspension but my guess is no.

And so whether the search might need to be permanently suspended IMO depends not on the time passed since Nov 29 so much but on how much of the DTLA/H&F trash dumped in the area during the critical period has been searched. We're all aware the search didn't begin for over 40 days after the purported fatal "incident" at the H&F so there could be lots of more recent trash in the general area. But after the trash area where Oct 17-18 trash would have been put has been searched, it doesn't seem more searching of trash would make much sense. But I don't think they've been actively searching the landfill for anything like "over a month."

JMO

And so whether the search might need to be permanently suspended IMO depends not on the time passed since Nov 29 so much but on how much of the DTLA/H&F trash dumped in the area during the critical period has been searched. We're all aware the search didn't begin for over 40 days after the purported fatal "incident" at the H&F so there could be lots of more recent trash in the general area. But after the trash area where Oct 17-18 trash would have been put has been searched, it doesn't seem more searching of trash would make much sense. But I don't think they've been actively searching the landfill for anything like "over a month."
RBBM
Tons upon tons of trash, heaps and heaps deep, for weeks upon weeks was dumped where they are searching bc of the time lapse you mentioned; however, we hope they are fruitful. Locating a piece of her anatomy would be beneficial.

Perhaps they are searching for evidence and proof of drugs, used for sedation, or laced with something bad such as Fentanyl that the culprits discarded along with HP. There's some fierce fermenting going on in the Landfills. But, I'm optimistic.

Possibly they've had a team of criminal profilers from Quantico come in to present a prepared profile to the Lead Inv. LAPD needs to know what type individual would harm HP, or if she came to her fatality in some manner of overdosing, ie.; then, who would opt to toss a body down a trash chute?

Hence, their tasks include forming a list of possible suspects, IDing a suspect(s) but, in the least, determine who had access to HPs life, for it to tragically end in such a hazardous place as the area they're painstakingly searching come Monday, imoo.

WTH would place HP in a trash chute of an exclusive building and expect to get away with it? Why was Ms Maz frightened and violent, even? The time frame is tight that the unsubs are limited. They need a geofence warrant, perhaps, to find out who was in the area when it concerns HPs demise.

To be frank, this theory of HP being placed into a trash chute, and perhaps, getting stuck, had been on the forum Reddit for almost since the MP report. This is not news to most of us. Evidently, most of the residents have known since Day One or so and D Day for Heidi going missing.

After all the concussion-giving Maserati Lady says so, and, also, that she saw HPs body stuck in the chute. Horrors :eek: :eek: This is true crime of the kind we just can't make up. All jmhoo
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  • #700
So the search continues next week. Interesting that the article states that Heidi's death was the result of an "unspecified incident" inside the building.
Search to Resume for Missing West LA Mother Presumed Dead

An "unspecified incident" covers a lot of ground. Murder, accident, overdose are all possibilities that come to my mind. And there apparently isn't anyone in police custody that I've heard about. Her ex states he doesn't believe she knew anyone in the building. But they have been divorced for quite some time now and it is very likely there are things about her life he has no knowledge of. Even if she doesn't know a resident in the building it doesn't preclude her meeting someone else there at another person's residence.
 

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