CA - Lady Gaga’s dog walker shot, 2 dogs stolen, Hollywood, 24 Feb 2021 *dogs found safe* *arrests* *Guilty*

  • #81
Welcome to WS, I see you have just joined. Is this case what brought you here as you have folks shot for dogs?

I've never in my life heard of someone shooting someone/killing randomly to steal a dog. Why do you think random? Have you had lots of folks getting shot for a dog in your community or what leads you to this conclusion? I do see posts that this has happened, but shooting someone? That's off the charts!

MOO

The dog walker didn't want to give up the dog, he was resisting and you could hear the perps saying "give it up"he started screaming then he got shot , I wonder if he didn't resisted would he got shot , he panicked started screaming and resisting then shot . If they wanted to shoot him they would shoot him first then steal the dog not attempt to steal the dog then shoot him
 
  • #82
Luckily the dog-walker survived, hope the dogs are being treated well too!
Lady Gaga's dog walker shot, two of her French bulldogs stolen - CNN
''The source said the singer "is offering half-a-million dollars to anyone who has her two dogs, no questions asked. Anyone who has the dogs can use this email, [email protected] to retrieve the reward."

Gee, $500,000 reward for return of the dogs. But...no mention of a reward for apprehending the men who shot the human?

I know, Hollywood has its priorities.... .

“ Allowed to offer a reward.” Who is allowing her to offer a reward? Its her property and she has every right to offer a reward.

Perhaps it might refer to "affirming the reward".

Though citizens can offer rewards for the return of any property, police might have concerns that ubber high rewards might lead to more people getting shot over half baked efforts to retrieve the property- then make $500,000- "no questions asked".

Then factor in that some in Los Angeles, have access to weapons and the following lines of "thought": I really need 500K. I think person "P" might have the dogs. Heading to his place now with a weapon. 500K is the priority. Accuracy of dog info? Not so much.

Thus, perhaps not all offered rewards are affirmed or facilitated by the police.
 
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  • #83
Gee, $500,000 reward for return of the dogs. But...no mention of a reward for apprehending the men who shot the human?

I know, Hollywood has priorities.... .

I think it's all part of the plan to try and catch them for the attempted murder. Obviously they want to catch the people and this is a way of doing it and hopefully getting the dogs back too.
 
  • #84
Gee, $500,000 reward for return of the dogs. But...no mention of a reward for apprehending the men who shot the human?

I know, Hollywood has priorities.... .
It seems pretty obvious that recovering the dogs will lead to getting the creeps.I'm not a Lady gaga fan but it's obvious she wants both things to happen.
 
  • #85
It seems pretty obvious that recovering the dogs will lead to getting the creeps.I'm not a Lady gaga fan but it's obvious she wants both things to happen.

I don't really have your absolute confidence that finding the dogs means finding the assailants.

The dogs could be abandoned somewhere, or turned in anonymously. Likewise, they could sold to another party- who may, or may not be able to identify the assailants.

Sure, Gaga wants the assailants caught as well. Heck, with few exceptions, who wouldn't? But..... the 500K focus is on the dogs. Color me cynical I guess.
 
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  • #86
Violent Street Robbery NR21051ml - Los Angeles Police Department
February 26, 2021 rbbm.
''Violent Street Robbery NR21051ml
Los Angeles: Detectives from the Los Angeles Police Department's Robbery Homicide Division, Robbery Special Section, are seeking the public's help in providing any information that would lead to the identification and arrest of violent street robbery suspects.

On February 24, 2021 at approximately 9:40 p.m., the victim was walking three French bulldogs in the area of Sierra Bonita Avenue and Sunset Blvd. The suspects approached the victim in a white Nissan Altima four door.
Two suspects exited the vehicle and demanded the victim turn over the dogs at gunpoint. The victim struggled with the suspects and was shot once by one of the suspects. The suspects took two of the three dogs and fled the scene in the suspect vehicle.

Suspect-1 is described as a male black, 20-25 years of age, blond dreadlocks, wearing a black hoodie, and armed with a semi-automatic handgun.

Suspect-2 is further described as a male black, 20-25 years of age, wearing dark clothing.


The owner of the stolen dogs was identified to be the celebrity known as "Lady Gaga." The victim is in stable condition.

If anyone has videos or photos of this incident please send to [email protected]

The investigation is ongoing and anyone with information regarding this incident is urged to contact Detective Marsden and Detective Brown at 213-486-6840. During non-business hours or on weekends, calls should be directed to 1-877-LAPD-24-7 (1-877-527-3247). Anyone wishing to remain anonymous should call Crime Stoppers at 1-800-222-TIPS (800-222-8477). Tipsters may also go to www.lapdonline.org, and click on "Anonymous Web Tips."

Lady Gaga Speaks Out After Dog Walker Shooting, Dognapping Incident
''Beside herself. Lady Gaga broke her silence after armed thieves stole two of her bulldogs and shot her dog walker on Wednesday, February 24.

Celebrities Who Love French Bulldogs: Photos
“My beloved dogs Koji and Gustav were taken in Hollywood two nights ago. My heart is sick and I am praying my family will be whole again with an act of kindness. I will pay $500,000 for their safe return. Email [email protected] to contact us,” she tweeted on Friday, February 26. “If you bought or found them unknowingly, the reward is the same. I continue to love you Ryan Fischer, you risked your life to fight for our family. You’re forever a hero.”
 
  • #87
Obviously they want to catch the people and this is a way of doing it and hopefully getting the dogs back too.
Yes, I agree. It is obvious that she wants the people caught as well.

Heck, the vast majority of the country wants the men caught too. So do the citizens of say, Russia.

The 500K reward, however, is on the dogs- and not on the men who shot the human. In short, the reward illustrates a particular focus.
 
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  • #89
Oh jeez, I went there and watched the video. Horrifying.... and noted that she was out of the country at this time.

Agree with others that are thinking along the lines that at this time, it's not good to come out and offer $500,000 for the arrest and conviction. She's got the bucks to do that later, and LE may not want whackos calling in and taking time from the investigation as with other cases we follow when LE may have leads to follow.

As to setting a precedent for kidnapping of a dog for ransom, dunno if that was the case/intention. So now I more clearly understand why those above were saying "random" in that they may not have known it was Gaga's dogs. Took me a while to a new thread to let it all sink in.

Just awful, and had NO idea that people did such.
 
  • #90
Yes, I agree. It is obvious that she wants the people caught as well.

Heck, the vast majority of the country wants the men caught too. So do the citizens of say, Russia.

The 500K reward, however, is on the dogs- and not on the men who shot the human. In short, the reward illustrates a particular focus.

It will have to be an ‘innocent friend’ who collects the money. Transfering the money will be tricky.

When my dog was stolen and I offered a $1000 reward. In the end the dog thief had to pretend to have ‘rescued’ it from ‘the real thief’ in order to collect the money. But I already had tips that he was the real thief.

Collecting the reward became an issue. When the thief called me, I told him to meet me at the bank during business hours, or the veterinary clinic.

He guessed it was a setup and so I told him to come to my home. (My brother and his EMT buddies were next door and arrived when he pulled in.) He arrived and left before police arrived.

He brought his young son. So, for his sake, we were polite and played dumb. In the end the police said there was only proof that he had my dog in his home, but no real crime.
 
  • #91
I don't really have your absolute confidence that finding the dogs means finding the assailants.

The dogs could be abandoned somewhere, or turned in anonymously. Likewise, they could sold to another party- who may, or may not be able to identify the assailants.

Sure, Gaga wants the assailants caught as well. Heck, with few exceptions, who wouldn't? But..... the 500K focus is on the dogs. Color me cynical I guess.

if true, why does that bother you?
if I had that kind of money, I would offer it too
 
  • #92
Ah, ok, then the neighbors :)

I meant that the crime happened near where the victim lived. Not where Lady Gaga lives. I would be surprised if she lived in the west part of West Hollywood.
 
  • #93
When my dog was stolen and I offered a $1000 reward. In the end the dog thief had to pretend to have ‘rescued’ it from ‘the real thief’ in order to collect the money. But I already had tips that he was the real thief.

He brought his young son. So, for his sake, we were polite and played dumb.

A daughter of mine had a cell phone stolen and returned in remarkably similar circumstances.

Her phone was stolen. Evidently Apple had started to threaten legal action against cell phone shops unlocking Apple phones. Likewise, area pawn shops were refusing to buy locked Apple phones as well.

So, the phone was effectively worthless. But.... the manages to contact us (how, I don't remember- I am not a cell phone user at all) and gives us a cheesy story of "rescuing" the phone and offering to return it to us.

Of course, he would need to be compensated for taking time of off work- yeah right. Thankfully, the phone was old, and he did not want much for the ransom.

One of his teen aged sons showed up at the grocery store -dad was "busy" . We then ransomed the phone back.
 
  • #94
if true, why does that bother you?
I don't like the human victim being de-emphasized in favor of the dawgs.

But yes, I can also acknowledge the rights of other people to to apply what ever focus they wish to in the matter.
if I had that kind of money, I would offer it too
Hmm.... maybe, just maybe, I would consult with the police and explore the possibility of offering dual rewards- one for the dogs and one for the assailants.
 
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  • #95
I don't like the human victim being de-emphasized in favor of the dawgs.

But yes, I can also acknowledge the rights of other people to to apply what ever focus they wish to in the matter.

Hmm.... maybe, just maybe, I would consult with the police and explore the possibility of offering dual rewards- one for the dogs and one for the assailants.

We don’t know that Lady Gaga is not doing something to help her dog walker and friend. We just know she offered a large sum of money for the dogs. It is not mutually exclusive. I, like LadyL, would offer that kind of money for my dogs if I had it. If I had Gaga’s $, I would also help my friend with medical bills and other bills. And of course help police the best I could.
 
  • #96
The dog walker didn't want to give up the dog, he was resisting and you could hear the perps saying "give it up"he started screaming then he got shot , I wonder if he didn't resisted would he got shot , he panicked started screaming and resisting then shot . If they wanted to shoot him they would shoot him first then steal the dog not attempt to steal the dog then shoot him

So we are supposed to start obeying the orders of criminals? When a criminal shoots someone it is totally not the victim’s fault. There’s no way I’m buying an excuse that would make it seem like those criminals didn’t want to shoot him but they had to because he didn’t do what they said. They totally went looking for someone to rob and brought a gun along to make sure they got what they wanted. The criminal pulled trigger over and over and over.
Completely the criminals fault. MOO
 
  • #97
I don't like the human victim being de-emphasized in favor of the dawgs.

But yes, I can also acknowledge the rights of other people to to apply what ever focus they wish to in the matter.

Hmm.... maybe, just maybe, I would consult with the police and explore the possibility of offering dual rewards- one for the dogs and one for the assailants.
I fail to see how the dog walker is being deemphasized.He is no doubt getting the best medical care and the police are looking for the person who did this.Of course she is worried about the dogs because they might be getting tortured and starved right now.
 
  • #98
Unfortunately for them being in LA County, it's almost impossible to get a CCW. The total amount of permits in the county is 220 and the number issued to residents is 50 to 60 and I'll dare to say most of those people are politically connected in some way. If they lived in a surrounding county, they would be able to get one.

Unfortunately Los Angeles criminals don't need a CCW permit. Sad, isn't it?
 
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Lady Gaga's dogs recovered safely

Associated Press release

A woman brought the dogs to the LAPD’s Olympic Community Police Station, just northwest of downtown, around 6 p.m, said Capt. Jonathan Tippett, commanding officer of the elite Robbery-Homicide Division.

Lady Gaga’s representative and detectives went to the station and confirmed that they were the dogs.

The singer is currently in Rome to film a movie.

The woman who dropped off the dogs appears to be “”uninvolved and unassociated” with Wednesday night’s attack, Tippett said.

It wasn’t immediately clear how she obtained the dogs.


As a :cool: WSer, if I saw dogs that looked like them I'd be calling police, taking pics and telling police how to do touch DNA ;) on the dogs collars etc. And of course, telling Gaga to give that 500K to a charity or turn it into a reward for arrest and conviction for Ryan's shooting when LE says that can/should be done.
 
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