CA CA - Maya Millete, 39, missed daughter's birthday, Chula Vista, 7 Jan 2021 #2

[Curious Me]

Chris shared this tidbit on the Part 2 show:

Chris has talked to some people close to the pulse on this. Also. although LE collected some things from the house search, he says (16:22) there are other missing items from the house that may be in the possession of the husband's family. Chris doesn't want to get into it with CVPD, or compromise the investigation. He'll leave it alone for now, Chris said he has photographs of it, or the items. He says it's verifiable and real.

Chris said that there are photos of LM moving "items" out of the house, which are now in the possession of LM's family. Vague, but interesting.

I assumed Chris decides which comments are showing on screen and he read it out too so I thought we can discuss it, sorry.

Please don't feel bad about it. The show moves fast and jumps around, and Chris did read it out loud, but you know how listeners can say anything. One thing he did share on the show, coming from his own insider knowledge, is that there are missing items from the house that are in the possession of LM's family members. Chris says this is verifiable and real, and that he has photographs of it. I don't know what those items are or why Chris made it sound like a big deal, but I am curious.

 

[Curious Me]

Just before LM starts naming off (very concisely) Maya's alleged bucket list (Devil's Peak, Potato Chip Rock, etc.) he says something about them having hiked the Grand Canyon/Colorado River area 10 years ago.

When asked by the reporter if Maya was an experienced hiker, LM replies, "The hike that we, me and her, tried like 10 years ago, before we had kids, down the Colorado River and the Grand Canyon. Anyway, it takes about a day to get there. So she's been hiking and hiking. It's kind of our stress release. And she wanted to do this."

I was hoping they would explain:

1. Why did Larry feel the need to clarify that "we" meant he and Maya? (Especially since he repeatedly uses the word "we" throughout his statement, when not referring to he and Maya.)

2. Why did Larry throw in the information about how long it takes to get to the Grand Canyon/Colorado River? Makes me wonder if it's possible she is there, and he is trying to convince us that he didn't have the time to take her there. ("Look over here, not over there.") The panel implied again in this episode that they believe Larry had help. Could he have passed her off to someone on his Solano Beach drive that day? That way, if she was found near the Grand Canyon, Larry could say "oh, see. she must have fallen while hiking, after she abandoned our family."


It's probably nothing, just more LM deflection. I wrote a comment to Chris and asked if it meant anything, so maybe we will see later if it has any meaning. No idea if he reads the comments.

^^^ I found this post of great interest and everybody's ideas of locations of possible searches. LM shot out all these locations, and it makes me wonder if it was just to send LE on a wild goose chase. However, someone helping to travel while LM stalls seems possible. I wonder where Maya will be found. I pray she is found.

 

[MadTing]

I haven't been keeping up with this thread my main catch up has been via the interview room, i was wondering if any images of the house had been released yet? It would be interesting to see how the driveway etc looks.

 

[Curious Me]

I haven't been keeping up with this thread my main catch up has been via the interview room, i was wondering if any images of the house had been released yet? It would be interesting to see how the driveway etc looks.

Family and friends hold vigil for missing Chula Vista mother | cbs8.com
Published: 5:09 AM PST January 15, 2021 / Updated: 5:09 AM PST January 15, 2021

^^^This video at the 1:40 mark shows the house and driveway, as well as the vehicles parked in front. You'll notice a Toyota in the driveway with vanity plates "MILLETE" which might be LM's or someone on his side of the family. Maya's Lexus also had vanity plates "MAYLANI".

The below article is after the search warrant was served. There's video for you to watch there also. IMO, CBS News8's Investigative Producer usually finds new and interesting details that are verifiable facts. Anyways, hope this helps you catch up.

Human remains in East County appear unrelated to missing mom | cbs8.com
Author: David Gotfredson (Investigative Producer)
Published: 6:54 PM PST February 4, 2021 / Updated: 6:54 PM PST February 4, 2021

"Officers also impounded a black Lexus SUV, which the husband was believed to be driving on Friday, January 8, the day after Millete was last seen, according to family members. The SUV had a personalized license plate, MAYLANI."

"Larry Millete told officers he drove his four-year-old son to the beach in the Lexus on that Friday, according to family members, who also said they tried unsuccessfully that day to reach the husband on his cell phone."

“They left at 6:30 a.m. in the morning to go to Solana Beach and they didn't come back until about 5 p.m. in the afternoon,” Drouaillet said."

BBM & ETA-- note the stated time LM supposedly left the house on that Friday.

 

[ElizaKate]

not only that, but he actually said "I left her with MY kids" not "our kids" or "the kids". JMO, but i guess at that point in time, the kids belong to only him now.
-all MOO

Excellent correction and great point thank you!

 

[LindsayXO]

All IMO, MOO:
A few takeaways from the investigators: People often times speak in a quiet tone when telling lies or being deceptive, and repetitive/confident remarks are typically misleading information. The speaker wants the listener to hear the points and believe what they are saying.
I made a few lists of remarks spoken by LM in the interview.
-Quietly spoken words:
Saturday Morning
Argument
Problems
Briefly
My son with me
If (she left)
...didn’t...(we just been waiting)
Embarrassing
She’s blocking everyone
Sleeping with the kids in the other bedroom
Come home
Keep stuff in a shell
Doesn’t really wanna open up
Friend picked her up
Hear her rustling around
We can hear her
She was still there on Friday night
Repetitive remarks:
Space (5)
Physically (2)
Hear her (3)
Hike (11)
Jeep (5)
Friends (5)
Wine tasting (4)
Drinks (3)
2:30-3:30 (3)
Ordinary (2)
Normal (2)
Time (4)
Friday (4)
Night (3)
Worried (5)
Pressure (3)
Something keep her from contacting us (2)
Phone (2)
Surreal (2)
Worst case scenarios (2)
Park (4)
Not more than a day (3)
Leave her alone (2)
Numbing (2)
Words I noticed tone of resentment/annoyance:
Jeeping
Brunch
Temecula
I give her space
Pressure
Worried about her
Stay away
I don’t know (when asked about a guy)
I’m hoping she’d come home
Why’d you have to do this thing?

Well done with this! I'm going to add some of this to my notes!

I'd also like to add that he sighs loudly almost every time he is asked or feels like he needs to express how worried he is. Might not be much but it bothered me. MOO

 

[Season08]

I know this video has been posted, but I haven’t seen discussion around the lie detector test - apologies if this was already stated. Around 09:45 they discuss a lie detector test, and they say he “denied” one. Did LE fail to offer one, or did they offer one and LM said no? I realize they aren’t admissible, but does anyone know if and when one was offered? 3/1/21 The Unsolved Casefile: Where is Maya Millete? - Court TV

 

[rosesfromangels]

I know this video has been posted, but I haven’t seen discussion around the lie detector test - apologies if this was already stated. Around 09:45 they discuss a lie detector test, and they say he “denied” one. Did LE fail to offer one, or did they offer one and LM said no? I realize they aren’t admissible, but does anyone know if and when one was offered? 3/1/21 The Unsolved Casefile: Where is Maya Millete? - Court TV

We have even better; watch the "Let's Analyze" video Sandy posted upthread a bit.

Amateur opinion and speculation

 

[rosesfromangels]

I need the locals to weigh in on a theory I'm working on. I don't know the area well enough to gauge whether this speculation makes sense or not. Here goes.

If I were looking for May, I would search "Mission Trails Regional Park". Specifically where it borders Hwy 52 right around the Mariposa Gulch to Canyon area. (See screen shot and link)https://mtrp.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/MTRP_Trail_Map_Apr_2020.pdf

If you start at the Millete home in Chula Vista, this is a straight shot to Mission Trails Regional Park on 125 to 52. Then, 52 is a straight shot to I5 and the coastal beaches such as Solano Beach.

Thoughts?

Amateur opinion and speculation

 

[Curious Me]

I need the locals to weigh in on a theory I'm working on. I don't know the area well enough to gauge whether this speculation makes sense or not. Here goes.

If I were looking for May, I would search "Mission Trails Regional Park". Specifically where it borders Hwy 52 right around the Mariposa Gulch to Canyon area. (See screen shot and link)https://mtrp.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/MTRP_Trail_Map_Apr_2020.pdf

If you start at the Millete home in Chula Vista, this is a straight shot to Mission Trails Regional Park on 125 to 52. Then, 52 is a straight shot to I5 and the coastal beaches such as Solano Beach.

Thoughts?

Amateur opinion and speculation

You've really been thinking on locations, and doing a great job. The route makes it seem easy and it's possible, but it's more than the route to consider. I'm local to the general area, and lived nearby when Hwy 52 was being built. Haven't been hiking out there in awhile. Maybe @coastal has hiked out there. To me it would depend on if someone was familiar enough with an area to think of a certain spot. It can be quite rocky & hilly out there to be carrying around a weighty backpack. I can think of closer spots to Chula Vista. What areas was he familiar with? That's where geo profiling is useful,
The Use of Geographic Profiling in Crime Analysis - Crime Mapping & Analysis NewsCrime Mapping & Analysis News

Using google maps satellite view, you'll be able to really zoom into the area you're interested in. Search using "Mission Trails Regional Park Mariposa Gulch San Diego, CA" then go to the satellite view.

We're all stuck thinking of possible locations and wishing we could help locate Maya. Maricris and Richard have voiced how they have no clues from the LE investigation at all on where to search, but maybe they got hints on where not to look. Oddly, I don't think they've had searches up in Temecula.

 

[PsychSnack]

Someone replied to a comment on the 2nd analysis that LM’s parents were in Texas when MM went missing. This is all speculation of course, as it cannot be confirmed. If this is the case, I’m starting to think less and less about him having an accomplice. Unless LM had a burner phone, LE would have seen any calls he placed for someone to help him dispose of the body. They also would have seen any searches that he made about places to dispose of a body. This tells me that he was familiar with the area that he was going to hide evidence.
If he did not have an accomplice, he would have taken the Lexus to Solana beach as per his statement, so the gps would help corroborate his story. This would mean he must have disposed of the evidence along his route or at the beach. Maybe the beach is the actual place.
MOo

 

[rosesfromangels]

You've really been thinking on locations, and doing a great job. The route makes it seem easy and it's possible, but it's more than the route to consider. I'm local to the general area, and lived nearby when Hwy 52 was being built. Haven't been hiking out there in awhile. Maybe @coastal has hiked out there. To me it would depend on if someone was familiar enough with an area to think of a certain spot. It can be quite rocky & hilly out there to be carrying around a weighty backpack. I can think of closer spots to Chula Vista. What areas was he familiar with? That's where geo profiling is useful,
The Use of Geographic Profiling in Crime Analysis - Crime Mapping & Analysis NewsCrime Mapping & Analysis News

Using google maps satellite view, you'll be able to really zoom into the area you're interested in. Search using "Mission Trails Regional Park Mariposa Gulch San Diego, CA" then go to the satellite view.
View attachment 287223We're all stuck thinking of possible locations and wishing we could help locate Maya. Maricris and Richard have voiced how they have no clues from the LE investigation at all on where to search, but maybe they got hints on where not to look. Oddly, I don't think they've had searches up in Temecula.

Yes - I'm familiar with, and use geo-profiling. Of course, I'm only making assumptions based on the little I know. But let me share a bit more of my thinking, and please feel free to pull it apart.

Unless this is a Perp that planned ahead vs. a passion killing, I speculate they wouldn't be prepared to weight a body down in preparation for a watery grave. Further, that coastline is highly populated. It would be difficult to dispose of anything without detection. Lots of early bird joggers, and so forth.

Second, Perps don't want to drive far with high risk cargo. There is always the risk of being pulled over, and unless they are a heartless pro, it would be unnerving to them. They'd want to get rid of their cargo as quickly as possible with the least amount of potential detection. This is where I need help from you locals. Is that area on 52 that runs parallel to Mission Trails Park fairly secluded? This is the entry point spot in my speculation, in the area I narrowed down.

This looks quick and clean to me. Straight shot up, and a straight shot out to the coast. Aside from not being prepared to weight a body down for a water disposal, I chose land for another reason. In everything that has been described that I know of about this couple, they are more earthbound types vs. water based people. I've heard of hiking, and jeeping, and camping. I haven't heard anything about boats or water related sports. And this is why I think she is on the earth, vs. in the water.

Anyway, thanks all for continuing to pick this theory apart. I like the direct path to the first location, and equally the easy path to the coast from that first location I am targeting.

Of course this is an amateur opinion and speculation....pick it apart at will!

 

[Bogyo13]

Someone replied to a comment on the 2nd analysis that LM’s parents were in Texas when MM went missing. This is all speculation of course, as it cannot be confirmed. If this is the case, I’m starting to think less and less about him having an accomplice. Unless LM had a burner phone, LE would have seen any calls he placed for someone to help him dispose of the body. They also would have seen any searches that he made about places to dispose of a body. This tells me that he was familiar with the area that he was going to hide evidence.
If he did not have an accomplice, he would have taken the Lexus to Solana beach as per his statement, so the gps would help corroborate his story. This would mean he must have disposed of the evidence along his route or at the beach. Maybe the beach is the actual place.
MOo

Begs the question, when parents were called to come stay and help, Fri/Saturday or afterwards. Moo

Yes I don't think he had an accomplice. Someone helping since then, more so, especially with items removed from home that are now with family (would love to know what items and hoping for a search at other homes).

And I think if she was taken out from house on Fri morning, it is likely close by, disposed of before the sun came up (within 20mins). Also, the bedroom staying locked until Saturday so all clues could be removed.
Al speculation and MOO

 

[rosesfromangels]

Begs the question, when parents were called to come stay and help, Fri/Saturday or afterwards. Moo

"... I don't think he had an accomplice.... I think if she was taken out from house on Fri morning, it is likely close by, disposed of before the sun came up (within 20mins)..".

Snipped, BBM and abbreviated by me for focused response.
Agree - one person acted alone.
Agree - May's remains were left somewhere close by. The location I suggested upthread is 17 miles from her home.

Amateur opinion and speculation

 

[PsychSnack]

I need the locals to weigh in on a theory I'm working on. I don't know the area well enough to gauge whether this speculation makes sense or not. Here goes.

If I were looking for May, I would search "Mission Trails Regional Park". Specifically where it borders Hwy 52 right around the Mariposa Gulch to Canyon area. (See screen shot and link)https://mtrp.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/MTRP_Trail_Map_Apr_2020.pdf

If you start at the Millete home in Chula Vista, this is a straight shot to Mission Trails Regional Park on 125 to 52. Then, 52 is a straight shot to I5 and the coastal beaches such as Solano Beach.

Thoughts?

Amateur opinion and speculation

I like this theory. He would have had to have been able to pull over fairly close to his route in order to quickly dispose of the evidence. He could have walked a bit to the disposal site, but not too far from his car because of his son and the greater likelihood of being seen.

 

[Curious Me]

This is where I need help from you locals. Is that area on 52 that runs parallel to Mission Trails Park fairly secluded? This is the entry point spot in my speculation, in the area I narrowed down.

MTRP Trail Map – Mission Trails Regional Park
I don't know which spot you're imagining. It's hard to find secluded spots without hiking in. Are you thinking he could just pull over off of busy traffic Hwy 52 and dump a body out of the car without the body being found asap?!!

All the white areas are housing and populated areas. Please use the google satellite map as I suggested, and you'll get a better idea of the terrain in the area you're interested in. You'll also see lots of housing built all around the trails. People hike those trails on a steady basis. (He could've stayed in his own hood for that.) Mission Trails must not be easy place to dump bodies there, IMO. I don't remember any bodies being found there except one, recently a young hiker died and was found within a day. Yes, as you said, forget the beaches for secretive body dumping.

Do you remember the Amber Dubois case? There are secluded spots, but I think it depends on if the killer is somewhat familiar with the area. Amber wasn't found for awhile, but it fit Geo Profiling because her killer was living in the Escondido area. Then, when he killed Chelsea King, he was staying at his mother's and left Chelsea in that area.
Amber Dubois' remains found - The San Diego Union-Tribune

I wish I could be of more help to you. My speculations are running more towards a helper, maybe driving a farther distance, and wondering about those missing items, still thinking of freezers, considering a possible storage unit. However, if I had to pick a location, I would search locations he went to or would know about within 50 miles around the Chula Vista area.

This is all absolutely MOO and some wild speculations.

 

[Curious Me]

...And I think if she was taken out from house on Fri morning, it is likely close by, disposed of before the sun came up (within 20mins). Also, the bedroom staying locked until Saturday so all clues could be removed.
Al speculation and MOO

I've always leaned towards a fast late Thursday night trip, freaking out after the argument, close by. However, from all reports it might have to be early Friday morning quick unloading in the CV surrounding area, then up north to Solana Beach, maybe Temecula area, either as a ruse or to hide her phone. Sometimes I get lost in this case though because we have so few facts to sleuth on.

So you're not leaning towards any help? The Panel seems to think he did have help, and they specifically warned this unknown person to call CVPD and give up what they know, if they were involved in helping.

 

[rosesfromangels]

The Panel seems to think he did have help, and they specifically warned this unknown person to call CVPD and give up what they know, if they were involved in helping.

Snipped for focused response. Are you referring to the "Let's Analyze" panel? They are certainly experts. I hadn't really considered a "helper". It's hard to believe someone would participate like that, but who knows what the Perp told them..... Anything is possible I guess.

Amateur opinion and speculation

 

[Bogyo13]

I've always leaned towards a fast late Thursday night trip, freaking out after the argument, close by. However, from all reports it might have to be early Friday morning quick unloading in the CV surrounding area, then up north to Solana Beach, maybe Temecula area, either as a ruse or to hide her phone. Sometimes I get lost in this case though because we have so few facts to sleuth on.

So you're not leaning towards any help? The Panel seems to think he did have help, and they specifically warned this unknown person to call CVPD and give up what they know, if they were involved in helping.

I always just took the we heard her rustling as we-LM and kids, including them to give this claim more credit. I just don't see a helper, unless it's a mistress but it seems it was Maya who wanted out. A mistress without a possible future with perp or something to gain wouldn't risk it imo but they are experts so not ruling it out.
Unless helper after disposal, then family support.
Jmo i might be naive lol

 

[PsychSnack]

Yes - I'm familiar with, and use geo-profiling. Of course, I'm only making assumptions based on the little I know. But let me share a bit more of my thinking, and please feel free to pull it apart.

Unless this is a Perp that planned ahead vs. a passion killing, I speculate they wouldn't be prepared to weight a body down in preparation for a watery grave. Further, that coastline is highly populated. It would be difficult to dispose of anything without detection. Lots of early bird joggers, and so forth.

Second, Perps don't want to drive far with high risk cargo. There is always the risk of being pulled over, and unless they are a heartless pro, it would be unnerving to them. They'd want to get rid of their cargo as quickly as possible with the least amount of potential detection. This is where I need help from you locals. Is that area on 52 that runs parallel to Mission Trails Park fairly secluded? This is the entry point spot in my speculation, in the area I narrowed down.

This looks quick and clean to me. Straight shot up, and a straight shot out to the coast. Aside from not being prepared to weight a body down for a water disposal, I chose land for another reason. In everything that has been described that I know of about this couple, they are more earthbound types vs. water based people. I've heard of hiking, and jeeping, and camping. I haven't heard anything about boats or water related sports. And this is why I think she is on the earth, vs. in the water.

Anyway, thanks all for continuing to pick this theory apart. I like the direct path to the first location, and equally the easy path to the coast from that first location I am targeting.

Of course this is an amateur opinion and speculation....pick it apart at will!

Personally, I don't want to easily dismiss the theory of her being placed in a water area. Partly I feel this way because of the fact that he didn’t mention water at all in the interview, but mentioned hiking 11 times. In an interview with the BIL, he said they went water skiing. There were pictures of her on a boat wearing a Roxy rash guard and her daughters jumping off of a boat.
The lagoon areas on the way to solana stand out to me, if he took the 805 north. He could have easily added dumbbells to a large bag. They are a fit family, they probably have dumbbells. They also travel a lot, so I’m sure they have large duffel bags. All is speculation and MoO