CA CA - Maya Millete, 39, missed daughter's birthday, Chula Vista, 7 Jan 2021 #2

[swedeheart]

Live now (discussing Maya).

 

[Lilibet]

Open a map of Chula Vista, and look east. There's your wilderness, your blind (no cameras) roads, even a gorge or two. Also, lakes. Much closer than Solana Beach or anywhere else we are looking at now...and much less traveled. Still. IMO, she would have been found by now if she had been left out there.

BBM

@rosesfromangels and I have been on the Barbara Thomas threads for quite awhile. She disappeared in the Mojave desert in July 2019 and her remains were finally found a few months ago. The area was extensively searched for nine days. She was discovered by hikers. This and other cases like it keep me from assuming someone would have been found by now. But I do agree that east is a logical location...and the usual needle in a haystack.

Found Deceased - CA - Barbara Thomas, 69, from Bullhead City AZ, disappeared in Mojave desert, 12 July 2019 #14

 

[Curious Me]

Open a map of Chula Vista, and look east. There's your wilderness, your blind (no cameras) roads, even a gorge or two. Also, lakes. Much closer than Solana Beach or anywhere else we are looking at now...and much less traveled. Still. IMO, she would have been found by now if she had been left out there.

You don't mean a paper map, do you? I agree that there's plenty of places nearby. I did say staying in the hood would be better than up in Solana Beach. There's so many places you'd think of if you lived in the CV area.

Oh Yes, [B]@coastal[/B], even better, go east and find all kinds of rugged terrains and some cliffs. Do you have a specific place in mind? I have pictured a Thursday night trip, but even early Friday morning-- I just don't know what would be possible without LE figuring it out. He must have gone on the Solana Beach trip, at best, as a ruse.

I'm not sure she'd be found as easily if it was in the east direction because there's less chance of cameras, witnesses, less people roaming the area, hard on searchers, etc., It must be a smart direction because just the thought of east worries me that she may not be found for awhile. Praying for divine intervention.
East... see how the terrain is changing and it's less populated?

MOO

 

[digdug6]

You don't mean a paper map, do you? I agree that there's plenty of places nearby. I did say staying in the hood would be better than up in Solana Beach. There's so many places you'd think of if you lived in the CV area.

Oh Yes, [B]@coastal[/B], even better, go east and find all kinds of rugged terrains and some cliffs. Do you have a specific place in mind? I have pictured a Thursday night trip, but even early Friday morning-- I just don't know what would be possible without LE figuring it out. He must have gone on the Solana Beach trip, at best, as a ruse.

I'm not sure she'd be found as easily if it was in the east direction because there's less chance of cameras, witnesses, less people roaming the area, hard on searchers, etc., It must be a smart direction because just the thought of east worries me that she may not be found for awhile. Praying for divine intervention.
East... see how the terrain is changing and it's less populated?
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MOO

i've always thought 3 places and stickin' to it. closer to home. In the hood, meaning southeast san diego. And the east, inland empire to be specific. I used to work in those parts and it is vast woodsy, and you're right.. no cameras. Potrero, Descanso, Campo all come into mind. I'm sure one pondered areas while driving up to Glamis and back. all of Inland Empire County is in between home and Glamis. Maybe LE is right, and MM isnt in Chula Vista anymore.. As of right now, nobody is an POI, and everything is speculative.

MOO

 

[Topppps]

i've always thought 3 places and stickin' to it. closer to home. In the hood, meaning southeast san diego. And the east, inland empire to be specific. I used to work in those parts and it is vast woodsy, and you're right.. no cameras. Potrero, Descanso, Campo all come into mind. I'm sure one pondered areas while driving up to Glamis and back. all of Inland Empire County is in between home and Glamis. Maybe LE is right, and MM isnt in Chula Vista anymore.. As of right now, nobody is an POI, and everything is speculative.

MOO

i thought about heading east but the places that are secluded are gated off. I did find a good location South but im not sure if it was open. it’s somewhere by pacific gateway park i’ll have to check my notes. but you can just drive right up through dirt roads. I honestly think his best options are the ocean or garbage. area around CV looks like a really horrible place to hide a body you'd have to travel several hours to get somewhere decent. Heading north towards palmdale and tehachapi are not as gated off and easy places to hide bodies. He talked about big bear maybe he did head north.

 

[Topppps]

also you have to factor in he had his son with him, so digging a big hole and dragging her a long way seems out of the question unless he drugged the kid with something such as ambien. Garbage or to a lesser extent the ocean (i guess the kid would remember being on a boat though) are both quick and not something the child would remember since there would be no hole to dig. Larry talked about going to the beach maybe he did go and pulled a Thomas Capano.

 

[SandyQLS]

"... but I'm not real familiar with the Los Penasquitos Lagoon. I see a road running through it. Is that Sorrento Valley Rd.? Are you a local from around there?
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... RSBM...

I don't think that is a road. It is the coastal railroad track cutting across the LP Lagoon to continue south inland along I-5 to downtown. The trains cannot continue along the ocean at Black's Beach/Torrey Pines because of sheer cliff faces and sometimes no beach, then downtown La Jolla, Cove, etc.

RailPictures.Net Photo: SDNR 3002 San Diego Coaster EMD F59PHI at San Diego, California by Douglas G. Walker
Beautiful image of train entering the LP Lagoon, with Torrey Pines, the beach, ocean, and Hwy1 (N Torrey Pines Rd) in the background. More explanation and a map at link.

Weekend coastal rail service shut down | FOX 5 San Diego
"Jan 27, 2017 · Crews will also work on rail bridges that cross Los Penasquitos Lagoon, on replacing storm drain systems adjacent to the Rose Canyon Bike Path east of Interstate 5, and on railway..."

So the train passengers are on a mostly elevated track - looking out the windows at the lagoon. Amtrak and the Coaster commuter trains use this route, not sure about freight trains.

 

[Topppps]

the time he was gone seems to suggest he went far away. I wouldn't be surprised if he went as far as big bear or lake arrowhead

 

[SandyQLS]

....RSBM...
Heather Elvis case was on 20/20 last night. The couple had tampered/ unplugged something to thwart LE. (was it the GPS or the truck's black box memory?) I don't know enough about cars, especially newer cars, but it sounds like you are on to something.

I didn't follow Heather's case, so I went looking and you are correct:

South Carolina love triangle: A woman's affair with a married man leads to her disappearance
"... authorities also investigated the Moorers' new truck.

"It was a brand new F-1 50, fully loaded, had all the bells and whistles," Helms said. "In this truck was a GPS navigation system. We learned through the course of our investigation that it was possible to disengage this system and that's exactly what they did."

Livesay said that investigators determined that the system had only been disengaged once: the night Heather Elvis went missing. ..."

The question is does LM know about this?

Like so many posters note, who takes a 4 year old to the beach for 10 hours? That's just too long. Maybe they went there, but where else?

 

[Curious Me]

Live now (discussing Maya).

48:20 Starts the Q & A session on Maya's case
53:26 Chris directly invites Larry to come on the show. We can talk about how we can help to find Maya. You can bring your attorney.

Chris had said he hasn't left the house in the Suzanne Morphew case, meaning he has a feeling it happened in the house. At 47:00 mark, Chris gave a chilling description about when a man reaches out towards a woman's neck still discussing Suzanne's case. (MOO, I think it's likely in a heated argument when rage takes over that choking is more possible, than using a weapon.) Chris says he hasn't left the house in Maya's case either, he's going to stay in the house on this one for now.

Are the children in danger? Chris doesn't know, and he just hopes not. People do crazy things, he doesn't know. If Larry is suffering, then Chris invites him again to come on the show.

Can the kids shed light perhaps on the case? Yes
If and when children are interviewed it is done by
special Cognitive Children Interviewers.

Friday possible for er... dump? It's possible. Mary asks if Temecula would be a possible place because LM mentioned it. Chris said the car GPS would tell a lot. Should searchers look closer to the home or farther? Chris doesn't know because there was a 12-14 hr. lag in Maya being reported missing. It could be either. However, the car GPS would tell much for sure.

56:24 Is Larry going to work? Chris doesn't know.
57:43 Did Larry work alone? Does he have a brother?
Chris says he doesn't know about a brother, but he
does have an uncle. (To me he said it like it was important info.)

Got to go, might continue listening later.

 

[Topppps]

I didn't follow Heather's case, so I went looking and you are correct:

South Carolina love triangle: A woman's affair with a married man leads to her disappearance
"... authorities also investigated the Moorers' new truck.

"It was a brand new F-1 50, fully loaded, had all the bells and whistles," Helms said. "In this truck was a GPS navigation system. We learned through the course of our investigation that it was possible to disengage this system and that's exactly what they did."

Livesay said that investigators determined that the system had only been disengaged once: the night Heather Elvis went missing. ..."

The question is does LM know about this?

Like so many posters note, who takes a 4 year old to the beach for 10 hours? That's just too long. Maybe they went there, but where else?

Did you consider though maybe he really did go to the beach? Solano beach to Chula Vista is 28 miles, im not that familiar with San Diego, I lived in LA, drove to La Jolla once to visit Ucsd, but that sounds like a lot longer of a drive than what Google says as 30 minutes. Perhaps he borrowed a friend or relatives boat drove it out 60 miles (about how Thomas Capano drove his brothers boat to dump Fahey) assuming a boat speed of 30 mph, that's 4 hours round trip. Plus driving, let's call it an hour each way from Solona to CV. Stop in the morning and evening for food you're at 7 hours. Maybe some cleanup in there as well plus entertaining the kid.

 

[PsychSnack]

[QUOTE="57:43 Did Larry work alone? Does he have a brother?
Chris says he doesn't know about a brother, but he
does have an uncle. (To me he said it like it was important info.)

Got to go, might continue listening later.


[/QUOTE]

Yes! I saw his expression and hand signal there, he was hinting of the importance of LM’s uncle. I wonder if he’s the family member Chris said they have photos of LM handing items off to. New info coming in is a great sign IMO.

 

[Topppps]

https://www.boatsetter.com/boats/nwstgkh?duration=all_day&🤬🤬🤬=14

i was looking at these boat rentals and most of them of them start at 8 am maybe that's why Larry left so early.

 

[Curious Me]

Family and friends hold vigil for missing Chula Vista mother | cbs8.com
Published: 5:09 AM PST January 15, 2021 / Updated: 5:09 AM PST January 15, 2021

Video at 1:43 mark a Toyota in the driveway with vanity plates "MILLETE".
See the house and their driveway and the vehicles? Is that LM's vehicle or a relative of his with those vanity plates? Larry's or maybe his Uncle's? LM must have his own vehicle if he drives to work. Why didn't he drive his own vehicle to the beach that Friday Jan. 8th? Did someone else, maybe a family member, come by the house or drive LM's car that day? I just don't understand why LM took Maya's car that day.

 

[Topppps]

Family and friends hold vigil for missing Chula Vista mother | cbs8.com
Published: 5:09 AM PST January 15, 2021 / Updated: 5:09 AM PST January 15, 2021

Video at 1:43 mark a Toyota in the driveway with vanity plates "MILLETE".
See the house and their driveway and the vehicles? Is that LM's vehicle or a relative of his with those vanity plates? Larry's or maybe his Uncle's? LM must have his own vehicle if he drives to work. Why didn't he drive his own vehicle to the beach that Friday Jan. 8th? Did someone else, maybe a family member, come by the house or drive LM's car that day? I just don't understand why LM took Maya's car that day.

Where did you read LM took her Jeep?

 

[Curious Me]

Where did you read LM took her Jeep?

He didn't. He took her Lexus which also had vanity plates "MAYLANI".

Human remains in East County appear unrelated to missing mom | cbs8.com
Published: 6:54 PM PST February 4, 2021 / Updated: 6:54 PM PST February 4, 2021

Officers also impounded a black Lexus SUV, which the husband was believed to be driving on Friday, January 8, the day after Millete was last seen, according to family members. The SUV had a personalized license plate, MAYLANI.

Larry Millete told officers he drove his four-year-old son to the beach in the Lexus on that Friday, according to family members, who also said they tried unsuccessfully that day to reach the husband on his cell phone.

“They left at 6:30 a.m. in the morning to go to Solana Beach and they didn't come back until about 5 p.m. in the afternoon,” Drouaillet said.

 

[Curious Me]

Live now (discussing Maya).

48:20 Starts the Q & A session on Maya's case
53:26 Chris directly invites Larry to come on the show. We can talk about how we can help to find Maya. You can bring your attorney.

Chris had said he hasn't left the house in the Suzanne Morphew case, meaning he has a feeling it happened in the house. At 47:00 mark, Chris gave a chilling description about when a man reaches out towards a woman's neck still discussing Suzanne's case. (MOO, I think it's likely in a heated argument when rage takes over that choking is more possible, than using a weapon.) Chris says he hasn't left the house in Maya's case either, he's going to stay in the house on this one for now.

Are the children in danger? Chris doesn't know, and he just hopes not. People do crazy things, he doesn't know. If Larry is suffering, then Chris invites him again to come on the show.

Can the kids shed light perhaps on the case? Yes
If and when children are interviewed it is done by
special Cognitive Children Interviewers.

Friday possible for er... dump? It's possible. Mary asks if Temecula would be a possible place because LM mentioned it. Chris said the car GPS would tell a lot. Should searchers look closer to the home or farther? Chris doesn't know because there was a 12-14 hr. lag in Maya being reported missing. It could be either. However, the car GPS would tell much for sure.

56:24 Is Larry going to work? Chris doesn't know.
57:43 Did Larry work alone? Does he have a brother?
Chris says he doesn't know about a brother, but he
does have an uncle. (To me he said it like it was important info.)

Got to go, might continue listening later.

Continued listening-- this is just my take on the show and not exact wording. Nothing very interesting after the "uncle" statement though.

58:00 Is LE checking all of Maya's special places she liked to go?
Chris is confident that CVPD and the guys/people working on the case are in it to win. They're on it. They only get one shot though, so they have to be sure to cross t's and dot i's.

58:35 Can authorities track LM's phone and records? They have his phone. Chris says he would be really surprised if they haven't.

Someone questions if LM is not suffering enough will he to turn himself in? Chris says it's like the Morphew husband and LM are the same guy. Chris is not saying that either is responsible for wife vanishing, but if you compare and contrast how they are acting. Chris says if it were his wife vanishing, he'd be on camera begging, ringing doorbells, bugging LE, he'd be doing much like Maya's sister and family are doing.

Some questions about Maya's Facebook privacy settings being changed, things deleted, family blocked access. Chris says that, too, is like the Suzanne Morphew case and went into what happened.

1:02:05 Will Larry and Barry become Pen Pals? Chris laughed at that one.

Was Maya's disappearance premeditated or heat of the moment?
Chris thinks heat of the moment. He's considering that she had that attorney appt. and thinks that might have had something to do with a heat of the moment thing.

Life insurance-- has it been checked into? Good question says Chris.

LM has made a lot of mistakes already, and will probably make more.

More Larry and Barry questions and comments. Will they write a book together? Listeners are really into the Larry & Barry thing. Twins!

That's it for me. Signing off.

 

[Bogyo13]

Continued listening-- this is just my take on the show and not exact wording. Nothing very interesting after the "uncle" statement though.

58:00 Is LE checking all of Maya's special places she liked to go?
Chris is confident that CVPD and the guys/people working on the case are in it to win. They're on it. They only get one shot though, so they have to be sure to cross t's and dot i's.

58:35 Can authorities track LM's phone and records? They have his phone. Chris says he would be really surprised if they haven't.

Someone questions if LM is not suffering enough will he to turn himself in? Chris says it's like the Morphew husband and LM are the same guy. Chris is not saying that either is responsible for wife vanishing, but if you compare and contrast how they are acting. Chris says if it were his wife vanishing, he'd be on camera begging, ringing doorbells, bugging LE, he'd be doing much like Maya's sister and family are doing.

Some questions about Maya's Facebook privacy settings being changed, things deleted, family blocked access. Chris says that, too, is like the Suzanne Morphew case and went into what happened.

1:02:05 Will Larry and Barry become Pen Pals? Chris laughed at that one.

Was Maya's disappearance premeditated or heat of the moment?
Chris thinks heat of the moment. He's considering that she had that attorney appt. and thinks that might have had something to do with a heat of the moment thing.

Life insurance-- has it been checked into? Good question says Chris.

LM has made a lot of mistakes already, and will probably make more.

More Larry and Barry questions and comments. Will they write a book together? Listeners are really into the Larry & Barry thing. Twins!

That's it for me. Signing off.

Lol, twins love the egg pic haha

Perhaps they are sharing the mountain lion too.. B&L adopt a mountain lion charity cat sanctuary where all your marital problems are solved.

 

[Nancy19XX]

I truly hope LM wasn't involved.. I can't help but think if he was, did he listen to "97 Bonnie and Clyde" (Eminem) on his drive to the beach that morning.... MOO

 

[Orso49]

Larry said that he watched a lot of crime shows and knew that the first 48 hours are critical. However, with this knowledge he didn't think to hire a lawyer before he gave that extended, curious interview with the media.