CA - Murder victims Identified as Rob Reiner and wife Michele - LA Dec 14 2025

[tlcya]

Sources told TMZ that the pair died following a possible argument and that their daughter told police that another family member “should be a suspect” and is “dangerous.
Romy Reiner Once Called Her Brother Nick Her ‘Best Friend’ Before Allegedly Turning Him in For Parents’ Deaths

This information came first from TMZ within the first 24 to 48 after the murders.

 

[lohrtabitha]

My little brother was a diagnosed paranoid schizophrenic. He was diagnosed at around 21 and lived until he was in his late 50's.

Our entire family was strongly invested in his life, his progress and his many setbacks. I went through many trials and tribulations, many many different types of medication changes, many different types of his living situations ---from jail visits, to halfway houses, to him living back with our parents, to him living alone in his own condo our family bought for him by all going in on the down payment, etc.

I have more first hand experience with schizophrenia than the average person. I loved my brother, always. But sometimes I was angry with him and sometimes I was afraid he might hurt someone. Especially my parents. He loved them more than anything----but he also flew into rages at home, and his doctors said it was because he felt most comfortable there, with them, and he felt free enough to let loose, and blow off steam. But it still frightened me.

One time I came home to visit my parents house and my brother had dragged my stepfather's big leather recliner out into the back yard---and he was stabbing it with an ice pick. over and over.

So I do have experience with this kind of situation. But thank you for your concern.

Thank you for sharing. So sorry you and your parents had to go through this experience. Know that your insight is appreciated. I wish you nothing but the best.

 

[Jade]

Sources told TMZ that the pair died following a possible argument and that their daughter told police that another family member “should be a suspect” and is “dangerous.
Romy Reiner Once Called Her Brother Nick Her ‘Best Friend’ Before Allegedly Turning Him in For Parents’ Deaths

This information came first from TMZ within the first 24 to 48 after the murders.

Romy Reiner Did Not Tell Police Her Brother Nick Was a Suspect in Killing Parents Rob and Michele: Report

Romy Reiner Did Not Tell Police Her Brother Nick Was a Suspect in Killing Parents Rob and Michele: Report

Rob Reiner and Michele Singer Reiner’s daughter, Romy Reiner, found her dad’s body — but a new report denies previous claims that she turned her brother Nick Reiner into the police as a suspect. The New York Times offered more insight into the events following Rob and Michele’s deaths at age 68...

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All imo

 

[MistyWaters]

No, I don’t think so based on the descriptions of the family as cited in msm sources per WS TOS.

Could you post msm links justifying such allegations?

All I’ve seen is how loving the family was with each other.

I’ve not seen any reports of Police attending the home for DV that would lead to that conclusion please share your msm source for such a allegation.

My understanding is NR had his own money?

Could you link a msm basis for the extortion assertion?

Or anything that says NR was not staying at the home by invitation and permission of his parents?

I’ve never seen articles reporting any physical violence or mortal threats towards anyone only Nick’s own admission to property damage in trashing the guest house.

The Reiner’s were very open with media and friends no one in msm sources has said Nick was violent or threatening towards the family.

The Reiner’s surviving children have asked for privacy, respect, and for speculation to be tempered with compassion and humanity.

The Reiners were brave and carried their cross to bear with dignity and compassion, imo.

They were not ones to expel their problem onto the world.

Obviously strong, loving, hard working, high achievers with options and intelligence they weren’t abused, imo, they were living life as they chose walking beside their severely mentally ill son with a drug dependency like so very many others are in this country.

I’m grateful for their using their wealth to attempt to treat NR and not add to the already overwhelmed community with yet another mentally Ill drug addict homeless on the streets.

Responsibility taken by choice financially and physically instead of wiping their hands and dumping him on society.

Where there long nights dealing with Nick? I have no doubt there were many.

Nick apparently easily accessed the home and entered, was invited ?, into his parents room.

That says to me they were open to Nick’s being close- not scared of him.

It seems it is the sister’s roommate that made the comment “dangerous”, he did tear up the guest house, but I am happy to be corrected with a link attributing it to the sister.



All imo

If this statement below is true, it satisfies the definition of domestic abuse and even more specifically elder abuse. Nobody is denying the family had been portrayed as loving in the past but what was going on right around the time of the Reiner murders wasn’t loving. The loud argument the night before between father and son at the holiday party was described as disturbing.

https://www.imdb.com/news/ni65626105/

“At Conan O’Brien’s holiday party on December 13, the late director allegedly told a guest, “I’m petrified of [Nick]. I can’t believe I’m going to say this, but I’m afraid of my son. I think my own son can hurt me,” the Daily Mail reported.“

 

[Jade]

If this statement below is true, it satisfies the definition of domestic abuse and even more specifically elder abuse. Nobody is denying the family had been portrayed as loving in the past but what was going on right around the time of the Reiner murders wasn’t loving. The loud argument the night before between father and son at the holiday party was described as disturbing.

https://www.imdb.com/news/ni65626105/

“At Conan O’Brien’s holiday party on December 13, the late director allegedly told a guest, “I’m petrified of [Nick]. I can’t believe I’m going to say this, but I’m afraid of my son. I think my own son can hurt me,” the Daily Mail reported.“

Do you have a link that one alleged emotional statement of a fear is the defintion of DV?

From my understanding there has to be tangible harmful actions manifested for it to legally be considered DV.

In fact it seems the bane of those dealing with such a situation that some one has to get hurt physically or financially before there is legally determined DV.

The loud argument between father and son have been reported as since NR's youth nothing unusual there.

The Reiner's were used to disturbing, imo.

By the definition put forth of that night as not loving then that would describe his whole descent into mental illness and drug addiction which isn't true by all reports previously linked.

It seems the Reiners had enough grace and love to even love what they fear, imo.

All imo

 

[tlcya]

Romy Reiner Did Not Tell Police Her Brother Nick Was a Suspect in Killing Parents Rob and Michele: Report

Romy Reiner Did Not Tell Police Her Brother Nick Was a Suspect in Killing Parents Rob and Michele: Report

Rob Reiner and Michele Singer Reiner’s daughter, Romy Reiner, found her dad’s body — but a new report denies previous claims that she turned her brother Nick Reiner into the police as a suspect. The New York Times offered more insight into the events following Rob and Michele’s deaths at age 68...

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All imo

I am not sure which anonymous source close to the investigation I believe. In my mind, both are valid possibilities. She either told them he was "dangerous" or she didn't but without knowing who is behind all these anonymous tidbits being tossed out to the various media outlets it is impossible to determine which thing is true. MOO

 

[BUF]

I am not sure which anonymous source close to the investigation I believe. In my mind, both are valid possibilities. She either told them he was "dangerous" or she didn't but without knowing who is behind all these anonymous tidbits being tossed out to the various media outlets it is impossible to determine which thing is true. MOO

I agree, it’s like watching a ping pong match with these articles. We’ll have to wait to see what is revealed in court/ court filings.

What we do have is the death certificates stating that they died from multiple sharp force injuries, and NR was arrested for their murders….which imo is more likely that the articles that NR was dangerous and reported as such to be correct.

 

[MistyWaters]

Do you have a link that one alleged emotional statement of a fear is the defintion of DV?

From my understanding there has to be tangible harmful actions manifested for it to legally be considered DV.

In fact it seems the bane of those dealing with such a situation that some one has to get hurt physically or financially before there is legally determined DV.

The loud argument between father and son have been reported as since NR's youth nothing unusual there.

The Reiner's were used to disturbing, imo.

By the definition put forth of that night as not loving then that would describe his whole descent into mental illness and drug addiction which isn't true by all reports previously linked.

It seems the Reiners had enough grace and love to even love what they fear, imo.

All imo

I’m not sure what is the disagreement. The Reiners were allegedly murdered by their son, surely that qualifies as a tangible action of DV? But the original post you quoted referred to domestic abuse. As the Reiners are no longer alive we cannot know the reason it was stated that RR told someone he feared his son would hurt him, other than what’s significant he obviously had good reason to considering the outcome.

 

[Jade]

I’m not sure what is the disagreement. The Reiners were allegedly murdered by their son, surely that qualifies as a tangible action of DV? But the original post you quoted referred to domestic abuse. As the Reiners are no longer alive we cannot know the reason it was stated that RR told someone he feared his son would hurt him, other than what’s significant is his fear became true.

Domestic abuse can be physical, mental, economic or sexual.

It’s an overall term that includes DV and relates to the body of the post I replied to that said NR probably had threatened to kill many times and probably planned it long term and the Reiners portrayed as no way to escape him despite reports to their dedication of resources for NR and the family.

That they were numbly abused by instead of knowingly, by choice, part of their disturbed son’s life.

I believe the charge is two accounts of first degree murder.



All imo

 

[girlhasnoname]

Do you have a link that one alleged emotional statement of a fear is the defintion of DV?

From my understanding there has to be tangible harmful actions manifested for it to legally be considered DV.

In fact it seems the bane of those dealing with such a situation that some one has to get hurt physically or financially before there is legally determined DV.

The loud argument between father and son have been reported as since NR's youth nothing unusual there.

The Reiner's were used to disturbing, imo.

By the definition put forth of that night as not loving then that would describe his whole descent into mental illness and drug addiction which isn't true by all reports previously linked.

It seems the Reiners had enough grace and love to even love what they fear, imo.

All imo

According to Psychology Today the latest definition:

<snipped>

Domestic violence can be physical or psychological, and it can affect anyone of any age, gender, race, or sexual orientation. It may include behaviors meant to scare, physically harm, or control a partner. And while every relationship is different, domestic violence typically involves an unequal power dynamic in which one partner tries to assert control over the other in a variety of ways.

Insults, threats, emotional abuse, and sexual coercion all constitute domestic violence. Some perpetrators may use children, pets, or other family members as emotional leverage to get their victim to do what they want. Victims of domestic violence experience diminished self-worth, anxiety, depression, and a general sense of helplessness that can take time and often professional help to overcome.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/basics/domestic-violence

I'm sure the Reiners were subjected to some if not all of these symptoms at one point in time during NR's upbringing.

JMO

 

[LifeIsAMystery]

There is no evidence that this is the case. He has said repeatedly (in interviews and on Dopey) that he and Rob never really 'fought' in terms of outbursts or anything like that. They had a strenuous relationship but it wasn't a violatile one. At least it wasn't when he was still in his early 20s.


Then they should have cut him off completely. Let him figure it out himself and if he ever gets his head together, then help him. Instead they took a half-assed approach. Send him to clinics on the far side of the country so you don't have to deal with his issue but at the same time keep indulging him. "Ok, you ran away from this one, now we'll send you to another" type of deal. As I said, I think sending him to these therapies instead of dealing with him under close supervision, especially during those developmental years, was the wrong choice (imo) but if you're gonna do that, then go full in. You can't do it middle of the road type of thing. As far as the school part goes, did he actually refuse to go to school or they simply thought that they can just buy a diploma because they're rich? School was of no consequence to them. They could find him a high paying job any time he wanted to.



Only Nick knows but I find no reason not to believe him. He shared pretty embarrassing stories about himself on same podcast and I never felt that he was lying or omitting the truth at any point. He came off as pretty forthcoming in the interview and never seemed like he was making these stories up


There's no evidence of that. There's some stories, whether true or not, in which he was acting like a petulant kid, sure. But if that is your benchmark of aggressive probably half of the kids going through adolescence meet that criteria


Were they failing? If you believe his story, they never really tried. They just sent him to rehab after that incident with his friend. From then on it was rehab after rehab. They tried to solve his problems with money, not with attention and care he should have gotten. Obviously we don't have a full picture of their family dynamics, but 18 rehab stints by the time you're 19 seems extremely excessive.


They have a very valid reason as to why they wouldn't want to do that.

People who worked on the movie claimed the Reiners would have shouting matches, similar to what happened at the holiday party. In the movie press Rob said they can both get a little “hot” and Nick said “You don’t want to set me off.” It would not surprise me if based on that past, and as an addict with SMI that he might be a difficult client. Jmooo.

 

[girlhasnoname]

Do you have a link that one alleged emotional statement of a fear is the defintion of DV?

From my understanding there has to be tangible harmful actions manifested for it to legally be considered DV.

In fact it seems the bane of those dealing with such a situation that some one has to get hurt physically or financially before there is legally determined DV.

The loud argument between father and son have been reported as since NR's youth nothing unusual there.

The Reiner's were used to disturbing, imo.

By the definition put forth of that night as not loving then that would describe his whole descent into mental illness and drug addiction which isn't true by all reports previously linked.

It seems the Reiners had enough grace and love to even love what they fear, imo.

All imo

Of course they did, he was their beloved son.

 

[SaraSmile]

My little brother was a diagnosed paranoid schizophrenic. He was diagnosed at around 21 and lived until he was in his late 50's.

Our entire family was strongly invested in his life, his progress and his many setbacks. I went through many trials and tribulations, many many different types of medication changes, many different types of his living situations ---from jail visits, to halfway houses, to him living back with our parents, to him living alone in his own condo our family bought for him by all going in on the down payment, etc.

I have more first hand experience with schizophrenia than the average person. I loved my brother, always. But sometimes I was angry with him and sometimes I was afraid he might hurt someone. Especially my parents. He loved them more than anything----but he also flew into rages at home, and his doctors said it was because he felt most comfortable there, with them, and he felt free enough to let loose, and blow off steam. But it still frightened me.

One time I came home to visit my parents house and my brother had dragged my stepfather's big leather recliner out into the back yard---and he was stabbing it with an ice pick. over and over.

So I do have experience with this kind of situation. But thank you for your concern.

Thank you for sharing such a personal experience! It really gives insight into close family dynamics with a severely Mentally ill person.

My cousin was schizophrenic, too. He was my favorite relative until he got too sick. We didn’t live nearby. I still liked him, visited him in different hospitals, homes, when I could. He was also diagnosed as a teen, he also died at 50. Heart attack.

One time he gave me one of his pills, I took it( teenager), my eyes rolled up into my head, tongue poking out( side effects), it took a couple of hours to wear off. Haha.

Domestic abuse can be physical, mental, economic or sexual.

It’s an overall term that includes DV and relates to the body of the post I replied to that said NR probably had threatened to kill many times and probably planned it long term and the Reiners portrayed as no way to escape him despite reports to their dedication of resources for NR and the family.

That they were numbly abused by instead of knowingly, by choice, part of their disturbed son’s life.

I believe the charge is two accounts of first degree murder.



All imo

MOO
I agree, 2 counts of aggravated murder, also, some mitigation for mental illness (one step down at sentencing, death to LWOP).

As far as planning the murder for a long time, I don’t think so. I think that because of med change, Nick felt uncomfortable starting a month earlier

Nick went to Expo park to pick up meth, to help lift him up, out of doldrums. Meth has possible side effects of extreme anger, rage. When Rob got mad at Nick at the Xmas party, Nick got enraged, acted out.

It’s still premeditation, because, I think, he went to guest house, thought out murder, got a knife, bag to go, lost his mind, acted out. After crime, he was able to function like nothing happened…

 

[freudianslip]

According to the DM, LAPD were called to the Reiner's home a few times prior to the murders, mainly for welfare and mental health checks, but also "Among the list of incidents is a call on May 5, 2017 at 4.04pm with the code 'BFV INVEST', meaning a battery of family violence investigation."

Police were called repeatedly to Rob Reiner's home before killings

LAPD records obtained by the Daily Mail show police were called to the Reiners' $13.5 million property several times.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Jade]

According to Psychology Today the latest definition:

<snipped>

Domestic violence can be physical or psychological, and it can affect anyone of any age, gender, race, or sexual orientation. It may include behaviors meant to scare, physically harm, or control a partner. And while every relationship is different, domestic violence typically involves an unequal power dynamic in which one partner tries to assert control over the other in a variety of ways.

Insults, threats, emotional abuse, and sexual coercion all constitute domestic violence. Some perpetrators may use children, pets, or other family members as emotional leverage to get their victim to do what they want. Victims of domestic violence experience diminished self-worth, anxiety, depression, and a general sense of helplessness that can take time and often professional help to overcome.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/basics/domestic-violence

I'm sure the Reiners were subjected to some if not all of these symptoms at one point in time during NR's upbringing.

JMO

Absolutely anyone trying to the help drug dependant mentally ill have been exposed to the broad definition.

Two adults I know find themselves simular with one in a hopeless situation no doubt mentally abused but also dependent on her son.

The other threw themselves into the chaos with intent and control.

But as one poster so wisely said about helping a drug addicted mentally ill person: be careful because they will drag you down with them.

Of course they did, he was their beloved son.

So kind of you to say it so well.


All imo

 

[Arkay]

Romy Reiner Did Not Tell Police Her Brother Nick Was a Suspect in Killing Parents Rob and Michele: Report

Romy Reiner Did Not Tell Police Her Brother Nick Was a Suspect in Killing Parents Rob and Michele: Report

Rob Reiner and Michele Singer Reiner’s daughter, Romy Reiner, found her dad’s body — but a new report denies previous claims that she turned her brother Nick Reiner into the police as a suspect. The New York Times offered more insight into the events following Rob and Michele’s deaths at age 68...

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All imo

Perhaps she did not say he was a suspect; we don’t really know at this point.

But from your source above, Romy did say he was her best friend, but that was a decade ago.

Only they know what happened in the intervening ten years. What did they experience over the last ten years as Nick got older and stronger? After the Charlie movie which appears not to have been as healing as Rob and Michele hoped?

Excerpt from source:

Romy has revealed her close relationship to Nick, calling him her “best friend” during a 2015 interview with The Hollywood Reporter, which has since been resurfaced.

JMO

 

[BUF]

From “another” insider, so take it for whatever it’s worth….

Friends say Reiner, 32, deeply resented losing control of his own life and would become enraged if anyone brought up reintroducing the conservatorship.

'Nick hated being under someone's thumb. He considered it beneath him. It was a huge blow to his ego, and embarrassing,' the source said.

'Any mention or talks about being placed under another conservatorship would have set Nick off. All hell would have broken loose.'

That resentment extended to sobriety programs as well.

'Nick didn't want to be told what to do or how to live his life. That's why he bailed on the whole 12 Step program. Too many rules, he would say.'

The testing, monitoring and restrictions that came with the conservatorship fueled his anger, the insider said.


Nick Reiner found it 'humiliating' to be stripped of controlDaily Mailhttps://www.dailymail.co.uk › news › article-15471149

 

[girlhasnoname]

Absolutely anyone trying to the help drug dependant mentally ill have been exposed to the broad definition.

Two adults I know find themselves simular with one in a hopeless situation no doubt mentally abused but also dependent on her son.

The other threw themselves into the chaos with intent and control.

But as one poster so wisely said about helping a drug addicted mentally ill person: be careful because they will drag you down with them.



So kind of you to say it so well.


All imo

Thank you, I've been there, done that. It's an indescribable pain and frustration, moments of resounding hope and faith and then BOOM...unfathomable, gut wrenching emotional despair. An all consuming anger and rage when everything fails again and again. But the love, the true, deep personal love I have for the ghost of that person when clean and sober has never faltered. I was fortunate that I never had to deal with physical assault or aggressiveness, but had to drag them literally out of a drug den after watching them get beaten by a dealer over a $10 Scarface poster.

It's an anguish and pain that I would not wish on my worst enemy, and if it had been a child of mine, I don't know that I would have survived it. A family member was hard enough. Everyone suffers around those with extreme addictions and MH conditions. It's such a wide spreading ripple effect. Life is never 'normal' for anyone. Always waiting for the other shoe to drop...on high alert.

My heart breaks for Rob & Michele and how they left this world, and goes out to the remaining family and loved ones, all of them...they've spent a lifetime suffering already.

I truly am at a loss as to what the punishment should be for NR. He murdered the loving parents who had given every bit of themselves towards his rehabilitation and sobriety. Psychiatric facility or prison for life?

JMO

 

[BeginnerSleuther]

Do you have a link that one alleged emotional statement of a fear is the defintion of DV?

From my understanding there has to be tangible harmful actions manifested for it to legally be considered DV.

In fact it seems the bane of those dealing with such a situation that some one has to get hurt physically or financially before there is legally determined DV.

The loud argument between father and son have been reported as since NR's youth nothing unusual there.

The Reiner's were used to disturbing, imo.

By the definition put forth of that night as not loving then that would describe his whole descent into mental illness and drug addiction which isn't true by all reports previously linked.

It seems the Reiners had enough grace and love to even love what they fear, imo.

All imo

Do you have a link that suggests DV doesn't include emotional or psychological abuse?

I do agree that not all disturbing arguments are emotional/psychological abuse or DV, but it feels like the above is a minimization of what I'm familiar with to be the law.

MOO.

 

[Lawnguylander1964]

re Pre-Meditated discussion

The example the prosecution gave us for pre-meditated (this was in Virginia but the same standards apply to pre-meditated murder in California), is that if you are driving and you come upon a traffic light that turns yellow and you make a decision to keep going or stop, that is pre-meditated. It's that quick. It helped as we were discussing the requirements in the jury instruction for pre-meditated murder.