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Reporter B.E. Posted this 5 hours ago.
Wonder why AJ was at the home .
Wonder why AJ was at the home .
Voluntary Manslaughter - Definition, Examples, Cases
Voluntary Manslaughter defined and explained with examples. Voluntary manslaughter is the intentional killing of another person with no prior intent to harm or kill.legaldictionary.net![]()
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Voluntary manslaughter is a crime that occurs when someone kills another person with no prior intent to harm or kill, but under a sudden circumstance that made him mentally or emotionally distraught.
If, as you say in your post, they might have been murdered in bed asleep, that changes it to premeditated first degree murder.
So yes, where they were found murdered is an important question.
Was there a struggle when all 3 were awake and this was spur of the moment not planned? Or did the son plan ahead - planning under the cover of darkness - to sneak in and stab them while they slept in bed?
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This sounds like what happened! Maybe he checked in to hotel to do drugs or something 4am to let off steam and when he went home, he could not get access to his guesthouse and altercation with parents happened or something. He killed parents then back to hotel to shower and bolt. Seems like his dad was codependent and his son under his control of food, shelter, social scene. In watching video interviews of father-son, it seems like son could barely get a word in. But son chose to stay with parents and parents chose to have son stay and socialize with them even though he was clearly a drug addicted with mental problems and possibly violence tendencies per son during one of interview.Not necessarily. Per that article, he wasn't observed to have any blood on him when he checked in at 4am. So maybe he checked in, then left, went to the Reiner home and committed the murders (ie 5 or 6am) and then returned to the hotel to clean up. Then obviously left again (unless that's where he was arrested)
I think it was to make sure that Nick wasn't doing drugs at home while they were at the party.Sounds like Nick checked into motel at 4am prior to killing his parents, as blood was not seen at check in but housekeeper discovered in shower next day of checkout. If so, premeditated. Why RR would bring his troubled 32 year old so with history of drugs, antisocial, and mental illness to a celebrity party is just weird and not appropriate in my opinion unless CO host invited NR to party.
To see if he could check out the crime scene?Reporter B.E. Posted this 5 hours ago.
Wonder why AJ was at the home .
Maybe they had a will as well. My Father did and left sister out thank goodness. She too was into drugs and died from that. What a waste of life she was. I’m a hard azz, have no sympathy for losers.
Just the way I am.
Jm
I agree with you but NR did not appear to be bloody when he checked in to motel at 4am using credit card.I am curious to know about the timing of the murders—I am guessing that it occurred in the early AM hours of Sunday following the public incident at Conan O’Brien’s party. Certainly, it’d be easiest to attack and kill two individuals with a bladed object while they were sleeping in bed, as opposed to when they were up and alert and moving about the house, capable of calling for help or even of attempting to flee.
Given that the murderer may have still been living in his parents’ guest house, as he evidently was for some period in the preceding years, I picture the family returning to their residence post-party, and then the elder Reiners turned in for the night while their miscreant son just waited in the guest house for their lights to go out before springing into action.
In addition for the tremendous sympathy I feel for the Reiners’ other children, I also feel badly for the Reiners’ friends and colleagues who must be grieving deeply—in particular, I worry about the emotional toll this will take on the wonderful but quite elderly Mel Brooks, longtime BFF of Carl Reiner and, I presume, a close friend of Rob and Michele R. as well. I don’t know if my heart could handle the loss of another true mensch and giant of American culture on the heels of this abysmal week of world events.
Where is this coming from? I vigorously disagree and see no evidence for that.Seems like his dad was codependent
I am not suggesting that NR, or anyone, regardless of the alleged crime, should be denied competent legal representation. My objection is to AJ’s strategy <modsnip> Fortunately, we all understand that not guilty does not mean innocent.There is nothing to suggest what the defense strategy will be. Modsnip: Off topic to this case
My opinion is that the estate has hired Jackson, not to get Nick off, but to ensure that as he moves through the justice system, his rights are protected, and an attempt to get him some mental health treatment. To lose respect for Jackson, as I read in this thread is unfortunate. Without defense, we have no system of justice. imo.
Yes, but if convicted, he'll be in jail for the rest of his life, so what would he be spending it on, anyway?I hope this is true and he is ineligible.
He is being charge with 2 counts of first degree murder, but also a "special circumstance of multiple murders". What does that mean?
Cued up:
Does anyone know what that means?
Where is this coming from? I vigorously disagree and see no evidence for that.
No, not exactly. The death penalty has always been legal in California under state law, but Governor Gavin Newsom’s 2019 executive order instituted a moratorium halting all executions while he remains in office. As of April 2025, 589 people remain on death row—down nearly 10% from 2024—though no one has been executed since 2006.Just heard the Los Angeles DA give a press conference. So it seems California brought back the death penalty, though it hasn't been used since 2006.
"He left us here for dead" sounds unlikely to me.From the article:
Rob, they say, was dead. But Michele, they say, was alive enough to tell Romy that it was her brother, Nick, who’d tried to kill them.
“He left us here for dead,” the source says Michelle told Romy.
That would explain why almost instantly it was reported that the stabbings were the work of a family member.
My understanding of the term codependent is it's not an a diagnosis or a label one applieds to others, but is just part of a certain self-help movement, supposedly helping unhappy people to have more insight into themselves in the context of unhappiness with relationships.Where is this coming from? I vigorously disagree and see no evidence for that.
Agree. The DA warned us during the presser that there would be rumors, and not to trust all that is being published. He probably has heard them all already."He left us here for dead" sounds unlikely to me.
Not unlikely that he did that, but kind of dramatic and pulp fictiony that she would have said it that way.
"He left us here for dead" sounds unlikely to me.
Not unlikely that he did that, but kind of dramatic and pulp fictiony that she would have said it that way.
The term codependent applied to RR implies shared guilt for the crime, which isn't fair, imo.My understanding of the term codependent is it's not an a diagnosis or a label one applieds to others, but is just part of a certain self-help movement, supposedly helping unhappy people to have more insight into themselves in the context of unhappiness with relationships.
To throw it as an accusation at a) an immensely successful and happy person b) who is a parent c) who is dead and d) has been murdered by their child...well, I guess maybe in an AA meeting...
JMO