CA - Murder victims Identified as Rob Reiner and wife Michele - LA Dec 14 2025

[nhmemorymaker]

Diagnosis of schizophrenia is nothing to be taken lightly and very often is heritable- it could have been heritable on the mother’s side of the family rather than Rob’s side.
This disease is widely accepted to be 80% inherited- but I personally think it is more than that.
This type of illness is extremely misunderstood unless you are a professional in the field or unless you personally know someone with this awful disease or have studied it.

I personally think the murders could have taken place less out of anger/ rage than out of paranoia/ psychosis.
Schizophrenics tend to think people are out to get them and they can either end their own lives or the lives of others based on their paranoia. They have delusions. Nick could have heard voices telling him to kill his parents.

It’s a psychotic disorder DSM-5 and Nick was in a psychotic state when he killed his parents.

I think Rob was likely in denial about the severity of his son’s disease and the danger- though maybe deep down he knew.
Also, he likely didn’t have the authority to institutionalize his son without the son’s consent. Those custodial papers should be signed but often are not.

This is a matter of what came first - the chicken or the egg- the schizophrenia or the drugs?
Drugs (especially hallucinogenics) can set off psychosis.

Sadly I think Rob believed the drugs were Nick’s issue when in reality the schizophrenia was the issue. (The schizophrenia came first)
It can present in a more subtle way by the time high school hits- forgetfulness/ losing things/ detachment and hearing voices. Many of those with psychotic disorders turn to drugs to “quiet the noise”- which is what Nick admitted doing during a 2016 interview.

It appears that Nick’s psychosis was full on if they were trying to adjust his meds.
If Nick also had bipolar- which I suspect- the antidepressants can set off a horrible mania.

I think the combination of mania and psychosis from his schizophrenia was the perfect storm leading to this tragedy.

Also, it could be days or weeks before the mania subsides and Nick realizes and cares about what he did. When he does realize what happened he will be horribly grief stricken and tortured.

Looking back at Nick’s 2016 interviews and knowing about his schizophrenic diagnosis - he seems much more tormented/ paranoid and much less smug.

His previous bouts of destruction were likely fueled by his psychosis.
The drugs were never able to quiet his noise.

This is a man to be pitied and institutionalized privately for the rest of his days.
He does not belong in federal prison.

All IMHO

I must start with a big moo moo... because I have no idea where to find a link to the discussion regarding Nick having done some podcasts after all the workings and the hoopla of the 2016 "Being Charlie" stuff.....
But someone was sharing information having Nick basically acknowledging that he was never totally sober, basically lying/manipulative behavior with his dad. This behavior, to me, is very smug.

I don't know how you twine "entitlement" along with "drugs" and with MH diagnoses....
I mean, how many diagnoses have there been? How new is the schizophrenia? Was he on prescription medication as a kid, before he started using street drugs?

ya know, its not like "chicken and egg"....
its more like "chicken, egg and salmonella", or "chicken, egg and blender"...

 

[LinasK]

I must start with a big moo moo... because I have no idea where to find a link to the discussion regarding Nick having done some podcasts after all the workings and the hoopla of the 2016 "Being Charlie" stuff.....
But someone was sharing information having Nick basically acknowledging that he was never totally sober, basically lying/manipulative behavior with his dad. This behavior, to me, is very smug.

I don't know how you twine "entitlement" along with "drugs" and with MH diagnoses....
I mean, how many diagnoses have there been? How new is the schizophrenia? Was he on prescription medication as a kid, before he started using street drugs?

ya know, its not like "chicken and egg"....
its more like "chicken, egg and salmonella", or "chicken, egg and blender"...

I see the entitlement, in spite of whatever mental illness he may have had. All he wanted was the ability to stay at the Reiner home and do drugs or "attempt rehab" at home, and never work or make anything of himself- just resent Rob for his success...

 

[Cedars]

I don't care where he is institutionalized just so he is not on the street.

Although, it might matter to the people who are in or work for the institution. The safety of staff and inmates in mental hospitals needs to be considered too.

Which is why there are layers of security in prisons, and people who are potentially violent are generally kept in maximun security.

JMO

 

[MistyWaters]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2002054690306163130

 

[BUF]

If only they had! They could have 5150'd him which would have been a 72 hour involuntary psychiatric hold.

Oh I absolutely agree, if this is really what happened.

Sometimes I get the feeling that some of these articles are skewing back and forth….this happened….no it didn’t….yes it did. I have a feeling the truth is lying somewhere in between. jmo

 

[MistyWaters]

Oh I absolutely agree, if this is really what happened.

Sometimes I get the feeling that some of these articles are skewing back and forth….this happened….no it didn’t….yes it did. I have a feeling the truth is lying somewhere in between. jmo

I’m with you on that. How can reporters possibly authenticate all these anonymous insiders, people who were there, friends, neighbours and acquaintances or do they even care as long as it results in a hottest story of the moment getting lots of views?

 

[Cedars]

Oh I absolutely agree, if this is really what happened.

Sometimes I get the feeling that some of these articles are skewing back and forth….this happened….no it didn’t….yes it did. I have a feeling the truth is lying somewhere in between. jmo

Yes - I feel the defense council is in full leak mode, at the moment.

 

[Tabulator]

I have known quite a few sherrif's deputies in California - One of the job requirements is to work in the prison system for 1-2 years as their first assignment. Some hate it, but many actually continue working in the prison for a lot longer. I can tell you that placement in the Twin Towers jail is pretty restricting - very few amenities, limited commisary, over-crowded conditions. Not a fun place. Nick Reiner is currently being held there with no bail - California courts move very, very slowly and I predict NR will be housed there until his trial - Given everything I know about NR, I think he will have an extremely difficult time. Being homeless and sleeping rough is like the Fairmont compared to the Twin Towers jail.

We know Rob and Michelle loved their son - and they had the means to give him the very best of everything. And they did. So many advantages. So many chances. But, one thing is that he ALWAYS had the ability to come home to beautiful Brentwood - It was a phone call away. His family loved him, they wanted to support him, they wanted to help him get better and be better. But, what we don't know is if Nick wanted to get better. After everything I have read, including this thread, is that everyone wanted Nick to get better, but Nick wanted it all on his terms -
I know a lot of addicts as I was a placement coordinator for addicted and mentally ill students. Unfortunately, the Reiner's story isn't that unusual with a constant merry-go-round of doctors, counselors, placement, and diagnosis'. Good people trying to help their kids... Houses morgaged, life-savings' depleted, the money, the time. It is a nightmare. I wouldn't wish it on anyone!
In everything I have read, everything I have heard about NR is that he only did what he wanted to do - his terms. There is no one-size-fits-all treatment and I can tell you, often it will take more than 1 stay in rehab - many have 10 or more. It is horrible for families... The despair is overwhelming. NR is probably mentally ill - from the drugs, heredity, or some other factor. But, being mentally ill is a LONG way from a successful insanity defense. The big question is did he know what he was doing was wrong? My opionion... YES. He killed them and left to get a hotel room. He ran away. In that hotel room, there was evidence he tried to clean-up in the shower. I absolutely think he knew it was wrong to kill them - his behaviors would have been MUCH more different if he was truly psychotic and didn't understand. I would ask other's opionion - Did his actions after the murders demonstrate that he knew it was wrong?

Over the coming years, NR will be evaluated, poked, prodded, examined, etc... But, it is my belief that those prosecutors are going to really go after him - he murdered 2 people - I believe they will not be open to anything except prison - the last thing they want is to give the world the impression of "that because NR has a lot of money he gets preferential treatment".

There are no winners here - 2 incredible people lost their lives and the son they loved killed them.
Successful addiction treatment hinges on if the addict wants to stop using. If that addict is willing to fight to stop using. And the ones I know who have success - they were willing to do ANYTHING to stop. Maybe not stop all-at-once but stopping is always the goal - to care about sobriety more than you care about using...
NR, maybe for the very first time in his life, no longer has a safety net. I cannot even imagine the shock he is in... Mom and Dad are unable to help and he is really on his own - his terms. I believe his parents would not want him in prison - but prisons are full of mentally ill people. Just so very, very sad.


I apologize for the long post.

 

[ttjo]

I would ask other's opionion - Did his actions after the murders demonstrate that he knew it was wrong?




I apologize for the long post.

Snipped just to give MOO.

Right before his arrest, when he was in line and the security guard walks in, he definitely appeared to be dodgy. The way he looked at him , turned around to get out of his way, I dont even want to say paranoid, cause he had every reason to be nervous. Wonder why he left the store and re-entered?

Video: Nick Reiner Seen at Los Angeles Gas Station Before Arrest

Security camera footage from a gas station convenience store in Los Angeles shows Nick Reiner buying a sports drink. About an hour later, Mr. Reiner is arrested across the street. Mr. Reiner was charged with first-degree murder in the stabbing deaths of his parents, Rob and Michele Singer Reiner.

www.nytimes.com

 

[turaj]

If only they had! They could have 5150'd him which would have been a 72 hour involuntary psychiatric hold.

that 5150 hold would probably have been ordered by LE. Bet Conan is rethinking that decision. A situation like that is exactly what the 5150 hold is designed for. The fact they would not leave him home alone tells me that he was also considered a danger to himself. From the various reports he did not want to go but they forced him. Not sure how they did that but he was angry right from arrival. Just what he needed to be in a house with nothing but "famous" people.

 

[Recidivist]

that 5150 hold would probably have been ordered by LE. Bet Conan is rethinking that decision. A situation like that is exactly what the 5150 hold is designed for. The fact they would not leave him home alone tells me that he was also considered a danger to himself. From the various reports he did not want to go but they forced him. Not sure how they did that but he was angry right from arrival. Just what he needed to be in a house with nothing but "famous" people.

To get someone in California committed under a 5150 hold, its not enough that the person is thought to be a danger to self or others by parents, party goers, etc. That person would have to commit a dangerous act in the presence of an officer. You can try but then face the reality that in engaging in dangerous act, can just as likely result in the mentally ill person being shot. It's an extremely difficult situation. imo

 

[no nonsense]

I have known quite a few sherrif's deputies in California - One of the job requirements is to work in the prison system for 1-2 years as their first assignment. Some hate it, but many actually continue working in the prison for a lot longer. I can tell you that placement in the Twin Towers jail is pretty restricting - very few amenities, limited commisary, over-crowded conditions. Not a fun place. Nick Reiner is currently being held there with no bail - California courts move very, very slowly and I predict NR will be housed there until his trial - Given everything I know about NR, I think he will have an extremely difficult time. Being homeless and sleeping rough is like the Fairmont compared to the Twin Towers jail.

We know Rob and Michelle loved their son - and they had the means to give him the very best of everything. And they did. So many advantages. So many chances. But, one thing is that he ALWAYS had the ability to come home to beautiful Brentwood - It was a phone call away. His family loved him, they wanted to support him, they wanted to help him get better and be better. But, what we don't know is if Nick wanted to get better. After everything I have read, including this thread, is that everyone wanted Nick to get better, but Nick wanted it all on his terms -
I know a lot of addicts as I was a placement coordinator for addicted and mentally ill students. Unfortunately, the Reiner's story isn't that unusual with a constant merry-go-round of doctors, counselors, placement, and diagnosis'. Good people trying to help their kids... Houses morgaged, life-savings' depleted, the money, the time. It is a nightmare. I wouldn't wish it on anyone!
In everything I have read, everything I have heard about NR is that he only did what he wanted to do - his terms. There is no one-size-fits-all treatment and I can tell you, often it will take more than 1 stay in rehab - many have 10 or more. It is horrible for families... The despair is overwhelming. NR is probably mentally ill - from the drugs, heredity, or some other factor. But, being mentally ill is a LONG way from a successful insanity defense. The big question is did he know what he was doing was wrong? My opionion... YES. He killed them and left to get a hotel room. He ran away. In that hotel room, there was evidence he tried to clean-up in the shower. I absolutely think he knew it was wrong to kill them - his behaviors would have been MUCH more different if he was truly psychotic and didn't understand. I would ask other's opionion - Did his actions after the murders demonstrate that he knew it was wrong?

Over the coming years, NR will be evaluated, poked, prodded, examined, etc... But, it is my belief that those prosecutors are going to really go after him - he murdered 2 people - I believe they will not be open to anything except prison - the last thing they want is to give the world the impression of "that because NR has a lot of money he gets preferential treatment".

There are no winners here - 2 incredible people lost their lives and the son they loved killed them.
Successful addiction treatment hinges on if the addict wants to stop using. If that addict is willing to fight to stop using. And the ones I know who have success - they were willing to do ANYTHING to stop. Maybe not stop all-at-once but stopping is always the goal - to care about sobriety more than you care about using...
NR, maybe for the very first time in his life, no longer has a safety net. I cannot even imagine the shock he is in... Mom and Dad are unable to help and he is really on his own - his terms. I believe his parents would not want him in prison - but prisons are full of mentally ill people. Just so very, very sad.


I apologize for the long post.

Wish I knew how to trim a post as I am replying to the last (well second to last) sentence. Yes, agreed- MANY people in prisons have mental illness, and it is most often under- or untreated. As for NR, I wonder if he will be found competent to stand trial.

 

[Cindizzi]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2002116732467511697

 

[LinasK]

To get someone in California committed under a 5150 hold, its not enough that the person is thought to be a danger to self or others by parents, party goers, etc. That person would have to commit a dangerous act in the presence of an officer. You can try but then face the reality that in engaging in dangerous act, can just as likely result in the mentally ill person being shot. It's an extremely difficult situation. imo

Not true. The threat is enough. My nextdoor neighbor threatened suicide with a gun. He didn't actually shoot the gun and he was 5150'd.

 

[Recidivist]

Not true. The threat is enough. My nextdoor neighbor threatened suicide with a gun. He didn't actually shoot the gun and he was 5150'd.

I guess he got lucky. There are numerous stories/cases where a family member calls 911 to help with a mentally ill loved one, who aren't so lucky. I believe LA county now has mental health outreach workers to assist police, due to the lack of mental health training provided to officers.

But I assure you, it is not as cut and dry as you think, and not easy to get a person involuntarily committed.
imo

 

[Elley Mae]

Nick Reiner was diagnosed with schizophrenia, new meds made him ‘out of his head’ before parents’ murders: sources

Nick Reiner was diagnosed with schizophrenia, new meds made him ‘out of his head’ before parents’ murders: sources

Nick Reiner was schizophrenic, and his new medication was making him “out of his head” in the weeks before he allegedly killed Hollywood legendary dad Rob Reiner and his mom Michele, according to a…

nypost.com

 

[LinasK]

I guess he got lucky. There are numerous stories/cases where a family member calls 911 to help with a mentally ill loved one, who aren't so lucky. I believe LA county now has mental health outreach workers to assist police, due to the lack of mental health training provided to officers.

But I assure you, it is not as cut and dry as you think, and not easy to get a person involuntarily committed.
imo

This wasn't in LA county.

 

[Arkay]

that 5150 hold would probably have been ordered by LE. Bet Conan is rethinking that decision. A situation like that is exactly what the 5150 hold is designed for

My guess is that Conan and maybe his other very famous friends thought that if they called the police, it would be in the news and Rob and Michelle would be mortified by the publicity.

Let’s say similar to when Britney Spears was 5150’d and that was all over the news.

Celebrities are in a different world than us when it comes to photographers and reporters. This would be a juicy story—-“Rob Reiner’s Junkie Son Removed from A-List Party by Police.”

I can see that no one believed it would come to this—-Nick executing his parents—- or they would have in fact called 911. I’m sure Conan is filled with regret right now.

Wishful thinking now because of course we wish a 5150 hold did happen, and Rob and Michelle woke up the next day, worried and heartbroken over their son. But woke up alive.

JMO

 

[browneyes]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2002116732467511697

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I’ll be watching…thank you!

 

[PeriwinkleE]

My guess is that Conan and maybe his other very famous friends thought that if they called the police, it would be in the news and Rob and Michelle would be mortified by the publicity.

Let’s say similar to when Britney Spears was 5150’d and that was all over the news.

Celebrities are in a different world than us when it comes to photographers and reporters. This would be a juicy story—-“Rob Reiner’s Junkie Son Removed from A-List Party by Police.”

I can see that no one believed it would come to this—-Nick executing his parents—- or they would have in fact called 911. I’m sure Conan is filled with regret right now.

Wishful thinking now because of course we wish a 5150 hold did happen, and Rob and Michelle woke up the next day, worried and heartbroken over their son. But woke up alive.

JMO

They were celebrating the end of a terrible year at Conan’s party.

I am so sad for everyone involved.