CA - Murder victims Identified as Rob Reiner and wife Michele - LA Dec 14 2025

[JDG]

Yes, that tracks.
The first action of first responders would be to check vitals if applicable.
If Michele had even a brief pulse, they'd start cpr/oxygen/ambulance and possible intubation ?
Maybe she passed in the ambulance ?
Imo.

Both were in a state of rigor, had been dead for hours. IIRC

 

[JDG]

Bbm.
That may not be easy to prove, even if NR's atty. believes it so.

Below are some videos of NR at the convenience store loitering, notice how he seems to tense up a bit when the cop (man w/shaved head) walks in ?
Or at least it appears that way :

Video shows Nick Reiner in gas station store, LAPD arresting him for parents' murders

Video shows Nick Reiner moments before his arrest and when he was taken into custody for the murders of his parents, director Rob Reiner and Michele Singer.

abc7.com

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The point is that he appears to be walking with purpose and somewhat evasive.
Was N.R. waiting for someone outside that convenience store ?
We know from past msm articles he used street drugs as well as any meds he was prescribed ... was he waiting for his dealer ?
Most likely we'll never know now, but the contents of his phone would be interesting.
Imo.

Just my opinion but given his ‘act’ in killing his parents, there may not be much to prove.

Big difference between a knife killing and slitting their throats. Rage, hysteria, madness.

The fact that he ‘seems’ normal in the shop quickly becomes irrelevant.

We all know he’s not normal.

 

[Arkay]

I love your “ boring day” quote! Yes, sometimes that’s so welcome!

Thank you, @SaraSmile.

It has long helped me to keep my perspective. A boring day is a day without tragedy, terror, or other evils, and is therefore a good day.

When this Holocaust survivor said this in her speech, I really was struck by what she’d seen and endured and lost, and how a boring day is actually wonderful.

Wouldn't it have been a good day had Rob and Michele just awoken like any other day, and had there been no problems with Nick at the party the evening before.

We can only futilely wish for it to have been a boring day.

Imo

 

[Seattle1]

I am behind, has it been reported that NR was sent to a "therapeutic" behavioral type camp as a youth or is this speculation? Apologies if this has been discussed, off to back read right now.

Not speculation. NR identified the camp he attended at age 16 in the Dopey podcast as "Second Nature," located in UT. Attendees with NR have recently talked to DM (paywalled), but NY Post is also reporting. I linked them in my post above.

 

[LinasK]

Yes and how do we know if he was even taking his medication? If they did some bloodwork when they took him into custody, then we could get a better picture of things. Taking anti psychotic medicine combined with drinking alcohol and smoking pot is a recipe for disaster. One article said that the Reiners took Nick to Conans party to keep an eye on him. Why would you take an addict to a party where there was alcohol and most likely drugs. I'm scratching my head on this one.

Because they were worried that he'd stay home alone, or have a friend over and do drugs at their home.

 

[Chimera]

Eerie video shows Nick Reiner calmly strolling near parents’ home hours before gruesome murders

The footage shows Nick Reiner just hours after he had a blow up fight with his parents at Conan O’Brien’s party.

nypost.com

Nick Reiner appeared to be totally calm as he walked near his parents’ Brentwood home just hours before they were butchered, sending shockwaves through Hollywood.

The 32-year-old — dressed in blue jeans, a long-sleeve shirt, baseball cap and carrying a backpack — strolled by a local gas station just before midnight Saturday, as seen in footage obtained by The Post.

Rob and Michele Reiner were killed early Sunday, according to the Los Angeles County district attorney. The new surveillance footage places Nick close to the family home hours before his parents’ slayings.

He knew his parents' house and if they had security in place, so he didn't need to 'case it' as an outsider would have had to do ?
What was he doing walking near their house, then.
Planning what he was going to do to them ?

What knife did he use, one that he brought with him or a knife from the parent's kitchen ?
Where is that weapon now ?
Hiding/disposing of it shows forethought and not (imo) full blown insanity, which is what his lawyer may need for a full acquittal.
If he was insane or in a fit of temporary psychosis, he might have just dropped the weapon in the house.

Boggles the mind to think A. Jackson is even considering this ; however stranger things have happened.

Rob and Michele were loved and care about by many people, & not just within Hollywood.
They've had quite iconic careers and influence, and it's safe to say many are appalled by the murders and will want to see justice for the Reiner's !

My .02 is A. Jackson is foolish if he thinks any judge will deem N.R. healthy enough to acquit and to be released.
If that were to occur, would a judge expunge his record ?
Imo.

 

[carolmaria]

I love hearing that someone can turn around and by electricity! Medicine/psychology can be so amazing.

Yes! Had a chance to witness a few ECT sessions in my work. In one case, it was an 80 year-old patient whose transformation moved me so — I still think about it forty years later.

 

[LinasK]

This article is speculation and conjecture by attorneys other than Alan Jackson. IMO, Karen Read was framed and is innocent —comparing her case to this double murder or Spacey’s SA charges is ridiculous.

And IMO Alan Jackson got a guilty woman off. It happens, I think OJ was guilty too.

 

[SaraSmile]

I am sooo hoping for a plea as well.
There is plenty of money, so just put him away forever and hopefully the other family members can try to figure out a way

I don't know if it's the case here, but I know in the Idaho murders case that there was lots of speculation about which of the four victims was killed first. Some of the posters talked about the possible ability of the coroner to make that determination by the DNA and/or blood found on the knife or on their bodies, IIRC. I may not have this right, but there was some discussion of the forensic evidence in the stabbings and the possible ability to determine who was attacked first and if that would indicate who died first. But perhaps it is something similar that was determined with the Singer-

Rbm.
Thanks for the link. ^^^
Some of this is new to me !

Regarding the bolded; That sounds very likely ?

Theory : He had significant help from his parents and at last he had come to the end of his road, with no other future or option than to listen to his parents and professionals, and make an effort to get himself serious treatment and not back out of it ??
And maybe he hated his parents and blamed them for this ?
I.e., "It's their fault, not mine."
Imo.

Wow, just Wow. Amazing that there are not better options, than to come home, when inpatient treatment is really needed! Apparently, a crime has to happen to “ commit” someone for treatment. Our Mental health system needs to change! Maybe Romy and Jake can do Advocacy, strive for better Mental Health outcomes, continue parent’s legacy this way.

 

[Chimera]

I'm not sure no one wakes up one morning and decides to kill their parents--- I am past trying to understand an evil action like slitting your parents' throats--- That such an act resided in this person, perhaps for years, only he didn't act on it prior to this time. A person can be mentally ill and EVIL. I think he was jealous of his father, feeling he could never live up to what his father was- and resentment built up over years and years. His parents did everything they thought would help him-- they didn't know he was unreachable--- I am not ready to believe all of his actions that day were due to drugs. He was very angry at his father- so why did he kill his mother? I guess he hated her too---

Bbm.
Agreed.
Esp. the bolded.
This mention of his meds being changed and not helping NR's recent diagnosis of schizophrenia came up after the murders.
The blame is not with the criminal in that case, the blame is with whatever doctor prescribed the meds, then ?
Why now ?
Imo.

 

[Chimera]

And IMO Alan Jackson got a guilty woman off. It happens, I think OJ was guilty too.

Yes, indeed.
Agreed on both cases.
And A. Jackson wasn't chosen to represent NR at random, imo.
IF NR is fully acquitted and exonerated due to his meds being changed, Alan Jackson will have figuratively pulled a rabbit out of a hat.
But I wouldn't be totally shocked, just saying that.
My .02 is that ain't gonna happen, no way no how.

It seems like many are saddened and outraged at what NR has done.
Imo.

 

[Lalalacasbah]

The wilderness camp NR attended at age 16 was identified by NR as "Second Nature," located in Utah. They've been in operation for more than 27 years and is NOT closed down. Link

Patients who attended with NR have talked to MSM-- offering both the bad and good about their experiences here.

In 2016, NR told the Dopey podcast interviewer that he met a "hardcore Venice kid," attending Second Nature for heroin addiction, and two years later, while NR was living in a sober house, NR reached out to him because he wanted to try heroin, and shot up for the first time with his former rehab pal. NR was 18.

NY Post

“I met him when I was 16 and then, I was 18, I was in a sober living [facility], and I call him up because I knew he was really into heroin at the time.”


The iconic director’s troubled middle child, now 32, said he then went to Skid Row with his former rehab pal and shot up for the first time.

Jeez, sounds just so nonchalant... so yeah one day I felt like trying heroin - one of the most addictive drugs and hardest to kick. NR sounded bored with life even back then.

Maybe it's just me, but I find it a little deviant/perverse that NR would reach out to someone who was in a rehab with him. What if that kid took rehab serious and was clean? Just show up and tempt the kid to get him heroin knowing very well that kid might relapse?

I get NR says "he was into heroin at the time" but I wonder if that's even true or if he cared the kid was clean? I'm sure NR knew in Hollywood where to get it. Why involve an ex-rehab buddy?

I get this might be common if you meet someone in rehab and you're both not into it, but for some reason that sounds super selfish of NR to me JMO MOO

 

[lohrtabitha]

12/23/25

Guest alleges Hollywood is a pro-drug culture, lacking penalties for abusers.

12/23/25

Dr. Jeffrey Lieberman Criticizes Quality of Nick Reiner's Rehab Institutions​

Thanks for sharing this. Hollywood is a prodrug culture. There is also something to say about we have to stop enabling addicts . Nick had to get the money to buy his drugs. It started when he was 15 he says but I feel it probably was a lot sooner. I look at all the child actors or children of actors that got hooked on alcohol and drugs at an early age. Drew Barrymore, River Phoenix, Dana Plato, McKenzie Phillips to name a few. The first interview mentioned that Nick ran away from rehab at 15. How did he get out? He needed to be in a place that was locked down and for his own benefit . Imo

 

[Lalalacasbah]

Eerie video shows Nick Reiner calmly strolling near parents’ home hours before gruesome murders

The footage shows Nick Reiner just hours after he had a blow up fight with his parents at Conan O’Brien’s party.

nypost.com

Nick Reiner appeared to be totally calm as he walked near his parents’ Brentwood home just hours before they were butchered, sending shockwaves through Hollywood.

The 32-year-old — dressed in blue jeans, a long-sleeve shirt, baseball cap and carrying a backpack — strolled by a local gas station just before midnight Saturday, as seen in footage obtained by The Post.

Rob and Michele Reiner were killed early Sunday, according to the Los Angeles County district attorney. The new surveillance footage places Nick close to the family home hours before his parents’ slayings.

He knew his parents' house and if they had security in place, so he didn't need to 'case it' as an outsider would have had to do ?
What was he doing walking near their house, then.
Planning what he was going to do to them ?

What knife did he use, one that he brought with him or a knife from the parent's kitchen ?
Where is that weapon now ?
Hiding/disposing of it shows forethought and not (imo) full blown insanity, which is what his lawyer may need for a full acquittal.
If he was insane or in a fit of temporary psychosis, he might have just dropped the weapon in the house.

Boggles the mind to think A. Jackson is even considering this ; however stranger things have happened.

Rob and Michele were loved and care about by many people, & not just within Hollywood.
They've had quite iconic careers and influence, and it's safe to say many are appalled by the murders and will want to see justice for the Reiner's !

My .02 is A. Jackson is foolish if he thinks any judge will deem N.R. healthy enough to acquit and to be released.
If that were to occur, would a judge expunge his record ?
Imo.

Yes! Did he bring a weapon or use weapon of opportunity from the home?

I am wondering if there were sharp knives in the guest house or did the folks want no weapons? Or he got it from the parent's house? Or did he bring one in that backpack?

Also, what else is in the backpack?

Did he bring a change of clothes? I can't remember if this was discussed... did he check into the hotel with bloody clothes? Or get hotel room and key first, then did the murder, then risked sneaking into his hotel in bloody clothes with no one seeing him (big gamble if you ask me in an LA hotel)?

 

[Cedars]

I’m going to piggyback off this post to say…..

Don’t be surprised when his attorney has him plead not guilty by reason of insanity.

Then the attorney will tell the court that he is not fit for trial.

No trial, no pictures, just hustle him off to a psychiatric facility for the rest of his life.

If that is going to happen it may be on January 7th.

It’s one way to shut it all down and the lawyer gets a fine pay check for doing so.

However, I believe the judge who is assigned would never let go of the case. There's an old saying that the wheel of justice - like a hand cranked flour mill - may grind exceedingly slow, but it grinds extremely fine. As long as NR is alive, the judge will require him to face the court and receive judgement, if only as part of a plea deal with the prosecution.

 

[Seattle1]

Another thing interesting about their autopsies... time of death. I'm guessing I was right about him being autopsied first (he's more famous).

Robs: View attachment 632637 I'm guessing FND was the date and time found. If anyone knows that FND means something different please correct me!

Michele's: View attachment 632638 Interesting in that they wouldn't include FND on hers as well. It should IMO and shouldn't be piggybacking off Rob's which is how this feels to me. Her time being 1 minute after Rob's makes me think he was first as I had surmised.

https://dam.tmz.com/document/b2/o/2025/12/23/b295ac1aeac24b40916a21d6fb71b093.pdf

To be clear, the hour 1545 translates to 3:45 pm-- which is the date and time that EMS reportedly arrived at the Reiner residence after receiving the 911 call from RR's roommate. It's also been reported that the bodies were already in rigor mortis when found.

A body gets stiff (rigor mortis) starting around 2-6 hours after death, beginning in small muscles like the face and hands, becoming fully stiff within 8-12 hours, and then gradually relaxing within 24-48 hours as decomposition starts, with factors like temperature significantly affecting the timeline.

 

[SMK777]

Actually, no. I do not think there had to be some last straw. This dude, for all we know, was not very emotionally stable and quick to rage even before he started taking drugs. He has been junkie since he was a teen so his brain at this point might be permanently changed and not for the better. Honestly, I suspect he switches into rage for the silliest reasona and no reason at all, especially if he is still taking stimulants.

What prevented him from knifing them long ago? Seems like there would be a last straw at play here.

 

[Seattle1]

They were both found dead. We'd have heard if Michele was found alive.

On December 14, 2025, American filmmaker Rob Reiner and his wife, photographer and producer Michele Singer Reiner, were found dead with multiple sharp force injuries at their home in Brentwood, a neighborhood in Los Angeles, California.

Killing of Rob and Michele Singer Reiner - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Reports MR was found alive have been corrected as unfounded. I first heard this stated by Billy Bush, and he has since corrected his report:

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[LinasK]

What prevented him from knifing them long ago? Seems like there would be a last straw at play here.

I'm thinking that he was simmering with rage after Rob confronted him at the party.

 

[Chimera]

Wow, just Wow. Amazing that there are not better options, than to come home, when inpatient treatment is really needed! Apparently, a crime has to happen to “ commit” someone for treatment. Our Mental health system needs to change! Maybe Romy and Jake can do Advocacy, strive for better Mental Health outcomes, continue parent’s legacy this way.

Emphasis mine.
Agreed.
I feel it was incredibly difficult to consider having N.R. permanently institutionalized until he was properly treated and healed -- if he kept fighting back at their suggestions ?
Also nearly impossible to get an adult 5150'd if it's against their will.
Your last sentence and second bolded, was a wonderful suggestion !
Imo.