CA - Murder victims Identified as Rob Reiner and wife Michele - LA Dec 14 2025

[ttjo]

Yes, this has me wondering. I also agree with @Angelo when it comes to this bloody hotel room narrrative.

The video, posted somewhere above, showing Nick hanging around the convenience store and appearing to flinch slightly when a policeman walks by, is confusing me in light of some of what has been reported.

According to the video, the wandering around the streets and then meandering through the convenience store is after the murders, yet he doesn’t appear bloody.

How then was the hotel room allegedly awash in blood? It doesn’t appear that he went FIRST to the hotel and AFTER to the convenience store. Also, when he checked into the hotel with the credit card, if he was so bloody that his room was later found drenched in blood, surely the front desk would’ve noticed that prior to check-in.

I agree he may have had SOME bloody items in the backpack, but I cannot comprehend how he wasn’t bloody in the store and at arrival at the hotel, yet the hotel room was reportedly full of blood.

I agree that the bloody hotel room story may have been one of those reported details which may actually be unfounded, given how there is always confusion when a story first breaks in the news.

JMO

He was captured on store surveillance inside that gas station an hour before he was arrested. near USC

 

[ttjo]

And about the video of him walking near his home around 12: 15 the night of the party.is he walking to the house or away from the house. This is curious b/c everyone said he wore a hoody to the party and it just looked like a sweatshirt, if he was walking home from the party, where is the hoody ( unless I just dont see the hood.)

 

[SaraSmile]

He was captured on store surveillance inside that gas station an hour before he was arrested. near USC

I agree, the “bloody room” story was probably overblown. More like a bit of blood on the sheets, and on the shower wall tile, pan.

 

[Hexe]

Also, NR's siblings likely know him better than anyone else who's still alive. And they might legitimately believe he is gravely mentally ill, to the extent that a mental institution is a more appropriate placement for him than prison.

Or they keep doing what they were taught to do: tiptoe around Nick and shield him from the consequences of his actions. That kind of conditioning, acquired in childhood is very difficult to shake off.

 

[Hexe]

I agree, the “bloody room” story was probably overblown. More like a bit of blood on the sheets, and on the shower wall tile, pan.

Not necessarily. Blood is very efficient, a surprisingly little amount can cover a lot of space and when it is mixed with water... Additionally, if he cut himself during the murder and later, after returning to the hotel, got himself high he might not feel much of pain and so reopen the wound and make it bleed at basically every move. Nice recipe for covering the room in blood.

 

[NuttMegg]

Sbm

I'd be very surprised if NR's siblings' goal is to try to get him set free, though.

MOO

The rest of their lives sleeping with a series of alarms just in case. They would also be insane to have his being free a goal.

 

[NuttMegg]

Sbm

The Sinclair Gas station is about two miles from the hotel. And the hotel is five minutes from the metro train stop, which goes directly to the
Exposition Blvd. stop where Nick

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12/13/25 Saturday @ 12:16am: Nick walking across a Sinclair gas station forecourt. John Fawcett, the owner of the nearby Sinclair gas station, has described seeing Nick walking across the forecourt late on Saturday night -CCTV footage from late Saturday night Fawcett described how Nick walked westbound along San Vicente Avenue before cutting through his station. He then crossed the street before pausing outside a consignment store called The RealReal & then heading up the sidewalk.

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12/14/25 Sunday @ 8:20pm: Nick buys a drink [Gatorade] at Sinclair gas station. Early Sunday morning captured on CCTV Reiner has a red backpack slung over his shoulder & is wearing a black & green jacket with white stripes & a dark baseball cap, calmly strolled by the service station just half a mile from his parents' home.

I get the idea the sinclair gas stations are 2 different ones?

With the "walking across the forecourt" happening at 12:15 approx, at a sinclair near the house.

Then, that evening, 8:20, being recorded a a different sinclair miles from his house, and shortly thereafter being apprehended.

May be wrong, but I don't recall him being apprehended so close to home.

 

[su5ie]

In my head I picture it as Rob stabbed in bed and dying very quickly, with Michele next to him, then her crawling off the bed to get away and possibly was dead on the floor next to the bed, where Romy did not see her.

Just how it’s framed in my mind; I know there are many other possibilities.

Probably much healthier for me not to imagine the particulars.

This was my train of thought too , The last noise whatever that was from one being murdered ( speculating RR )woke the other and that last flight / fright response of falling or leaping out of bed resulted in their body being concealed from view on the floor imo

 

[Niner]

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I get the idea the sinclair gas stations are 2 different ones?

With the "walking across the forecourt" happening at 12:15 approx, at a sinclair near the house.

Then, that evening, 8:20, being recorded a a different sinclair miles from his house, and shortly thereafter being apprehended.

May be wrong, but I don't recall him being apprehended so close to home.

As far as I know - and any one here can correct me if I am wrong - but I do believe they are two DIFFERENT gas stations.

 

[su5ie]

The legal strategy will be based on mental defect, so there is naturally some speculation about whether that is realistic. He's never had a job, so how can he afford a top tier lawyer?

I'm with you - Nick is a manipulative, selfish, useless 32 year old man who appears to have no empathy or respect for others. He chose to cause problems for his parents at their friend's house rather than let them enjoy time with friends during the holiday season. He acts out because he wants to - to get a reaction, in my opinion.

His siblings should do him a favour for once in his life and let him suffer the consequences of his actions. He's not helpless. He doesn't deserve special treatment. They may hope that Nick is sentenced to psychiatric care rather than prison, but he knows the system and will manipulate the situation for personal benefit. He will ruin their lives if given a chance, just like he did with their parents. Prison will be a harsh reality check, but he'll stop acting out fast.

I wonder who is willing to take care of Nick if he is absolved of responsibility because of an NGBRI defence

 

[BUF]

As far as I know - and any one here can correct me if I am wrong - but I do believe they are two DIFFERENT gas stations.

Yes two different gas stations, but….

The first gas station he went to was Sinclair. The second gas station he went to before he was picked up was Arco.

 

[Angelo]

The surveillance footage from late Saturday night around midnight (12/13-14) shows Nick near a gas station about half a mile from his house. He is walking away from his house and is carrying a black backpack.

The surveillance footage from Sunday night (12/14) is from Exposition Park at an ARCO Gas Station shortly before Nick is arrested. The ARCO is about 12 miles from the Reiner house. Nick is seen in the video with a red backpack.

 

[Izzylizzy]

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[su5ie]

It's kind of funny to read :
"Nick Reiner has no criminal history..."

Seriously? He's been a drug addict for 15 years. He bought and used drugs hundreds of times. We know of at least two times where he totally demolished everything in his parent's guest house, maliciously, costing them thousands of dollars each time.

The ONLY reason he has no 'criminal history' is that his parents protected him from that outcome. It's not because he never committed any crimes.

I was just about to say the same when I seen your post I believe the same that this is the only reason he has no criminal history.

The one and only aspect of this case where i feel any kind of pity for Nick is that he never seemed to be given an opportunity to learn / take responsibility or suffer the consequences for any of his actions

We learn from a young age that making mistakes is a way to improve by learning from them . I don't think Nick was ever given this space , it would appear his "mistakes " where incidents to be fixed .

People talk about rock bottom but rarely is it discussed what that actually means . It means the addict or person needing to be in a place where there is no more excuses ,no more enabling and no more outside blame .
The person is then left with a situation where they have no one else to blame but themselves. This rock bottom allows the person to then take responsibility for there own life choices possibly for the first time ,thus taking back power and learning to control themselves .


if we have a situation where boundaries are constantly stretched the person never reaches this rock bottom . The person is always carried through their worst


It is one of the first steps of recovery and the back bone of the serenity prayer ,that a person must take responsibility for their own actions and through the help of god learn to know the difference between what can and cant be controlled.

it would seem the reiners also were not willing to let go of control imo

The Serenity Prayer in Addiction Recovery I Hazelden Betty Ford

Learn how the Serenity Prayer supports addiction recovery and emotional healing. Its wisdom is key to compassionate care at Hazelden Betty Ford.

www.hazeldenbettyford.org

 

[otto]

Made some changes in the Timeline - so posting here - to get your opinion or if something I have is wrong!

Timeline: “We don’t have that kind of specificity yet,” McDonnell said of the timeline of the couple’s deaths. “We’re waiting on the coroner to be able to try and determine as best they can at this point.”
[map Reiner's house to the Pierside & on to USC on post #935, page 47]

The Sinclair Gas station is about two miles from the hotel. And the hotel is five minutes from the metro train stop, which goes directly to the
Exposition Blvd. stop where Nick was apprehended by cops.

Prosecutors have alleged N Reiner stabbed his parents in "approximately the early morning hours" on Sunday, according to a news release. But a specific time has not been disclosed.

12/13/25 Saturday night: One source told the Daily Mail that Rob & Michele ate at the Amici restaurant Friday [could be Saturday], the night before they attended a holiday party at Conan O'Brien's house with their son.

12/13/25 Saturday: Rob & Michele & Nick attend Conen O'Brien's holiday party. No time on when they left.

12/13/25 Saturday: Just before midnight – Security cameras show Nick leaving Reiner’s house.

12/13/25 Saturday @ 12:16am: Nick walking across a Sinclair gas station forecourt. John Fawcett, the owner of the nearby Sinclair gas station, has described seeing Nick walking across the forecourt late on Saturday night -CCTV footage from late Saturday night Fawcett described how Nick walked westbound along San Vicente Avenue before cutting through his station. He then crossed the street before pausing outside a consignment store called The RealReal & then heading up the sidewalk.

12/14/25 Sunday @ 4am: Reportedly, NR checked into room 207 at The Pierside Hotel in Santa Monica around 4am on Sunday, 12/14/25.

12/14/25 Sunday @ 2pm: Masseuse arrives-no one answers door.

12/14/25 Sunday @ 3pm: Romy finds her parents dead.

12/14/25 Sunday @ 3:30pm: Emergency services called to home.

12/14/25 Sunday @ 3:40pm: The couple was found dead around 3:40pm on Sunday, 12/14/25.

12/14/25 Sunday @ 8:20pm: Nick buys a drink [Gatorade] at Sinclair gas station. Early Sunday morning captured on CCTV Reiner has a red backpack slung over his shoulder & is wearing a black & green jacket with white stripes & a dark baseball cap, calmly strolled by the service station just half a mile from his parents' home.

12/14/25 Sunday @ 9:15pm: Reiner was taken into custody [at the *Expo/Vermont Metro station in Exposition Park] around 9:15pm, Sunday, 12/14/25 &

12/15/25 Monday @ ~1am: An LAPD detective showed up at the Pierside Santa Monica hotel. the detective told the front desk clerk he was looking for a guest named Nick Reiner. The detective told the clerk he was there for a "welfare check." But he also told the clerk he was concerned Reiner "disposed of a weapon & used the room to clean & dispose of evidence in a violent crime." The clerk accompanied the detective to room 207, but it had been cleaned hours before by a hotel housekeeper, who, we're told, found blood in the shower & on the bed sheets.

12/15/25 Monday @ 5:04am: booked on suspicion of murder at 5:04am, Monday, 12/15/25

This map is posted at DailyMail

Police were called repeatedly to Rob Reiner's home before killings

LAPD records obtained by the Daily Mail show police were called to the Reiners' $13.5 million property several times.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[lohrtabitha]

I wonder who is willing to take care of Nick if he is absolved of responsibility because of an NGBRI defence

I pray for the family and for society that he is institutionalized for the rest of his life. He needs the therapy, the treatment, and to be kept off illegal drugs and alcohol for the remainder of his life. I would be satisfied with this outcome. It is time for this. As said before he was always treated for addiction and not his mental health at his rehab stays. It's time for Nick to do the work he should have done in childhood. JMO

 

[lohrtabitha]

I was just about to say the same when I seen your post I believe the same that this is the only reason he has no criminal history.

The one and only aspect of this case where i feel any kind of pity for Nick is that he never seemed to be given an opportunity to learn / take responsibility or suffer the consequences for any of his actions

We learn from a young age that making mistakes is a way to improve by learning from them . I don't think Nick was ever given this space , it would appear his "mistakes " where incidents to be fixed .

People talk about rock bottom but rarely is it discussed what that actually means . It means the addict or person needing to be in a place where there is no more excuses ,no more enabling and no more outside blame .
The person is then left with a situation where they have no one else to blame but themselves. This rock bottom allows the person to then take responsibility for there own life choices possibly for the first time ,thus taking back power and learning to control themselves .


if we have a situation where boundaries are constantly stretched the person never reaches this rock bottom . The person is always carried through their worst


It is one of the first steps of recovery and the back bone of the serenity prayer ,that a person must take responsibility for their own actions and through the help of god learn to know the difference between what can and cant be controlled.

it would seem the reiners also were not willing to let go of control imo

The Serenity Prayer in Addiction Recovery I Hazelden Betty Ford

Learn how the Serenity Prayer supports addiction recovery and emotional healing. Its wisdom is key to compassionate care at Hazelden Betty Ford.

www.hazeldenbettyford.org

Well said! You nailed it!

 

[Niner]

Yes two different gas stations, but….

The first gas station he went to was Sinclair. The second gas station he went to before he was picked up was Arco.

Thanks for the correction of the 2nd gas station! Changed my notes.

 

[waldojabba]

I'm sure I watched a TV show or movie where someone referred to 30 day rehabs as 'spa like vacations' but maybe I'm imagining that(?)

So more like a vacation/relaxation getaway rather than actual being a serious rehab. Probably some show on HBO, not sure. Total speculation and bad memory on my part... I can't remember where I saw that on a fictional show/movie.

Anyone I've ever met who was serious about getting off substances did a minimum 3 month or longer 12 step type program. Everyone is different, I'm no expert. MOO

BBM above Everyone is different, I'm no expert. GREAT POINT, THANK YOU

Even those of us who have walked in similar shoes as the Reiners did with their son, only walked in similar shoes not their shoes. Can I second guess everything they did ? Sure, but why? It doesn't make sense of anything that happened nor help anyone else.

Imo it's a search for logic that does not exist. Mental health is individual not one size fits all.

Even experts disagree on treatments and methods but every where I look posters on all forums seem to have all the answers - if only they had done this or that- My sense is it's given everybody a soapbox to air their views on mental health, addiction, etc but that most that is posted is presumptuous and is pretty insulting and disrespectful to the victims, Michelle and Rob and their family

From where I sit they loved their children, they made choices for their children and they did their absolute best.
Rob and Michelle's family hired Alan Jackson and it seems they are in sync ( family and lawyer) to proceed with a defense that the parents would have wanted. I am totally on board with whatever that defense is as I stand in support of the victims of this tragedy.

Just my opinion of course

 

[Chimera]

It's kind of funny to read :
"Nick Reiner has no criminal history..."

Seriously? He's been a drug addict for 15 years. He bought and used drugs hundreds of times. We know of at least two times where he totally demolished everything in his parent's guest house, maliciously, costing them thousands of dollars each time.

The ONLY reason he has no 'criminal history' is that his parents protected him from that outcome. It's not because he never committed any crimes.

ITA !!!!