CA - Murder victims Identified as Rob Reiner and wife Michele - LA Dec 14 2025

[katydid23]

I was just about to say the same when I seen your post I believe the same that this is the only reason he has no criminal history.

The one and only aspect of this case where i feel any kind of pity for Nick is that he never seemed to be given an opportunity to learn / take responsibility or suffer the consequences for any of his actions

We learn from a young age that making mistakes is a way to improve by learning from them . I don't think Nick was ever given this space , it would appear his "mistakes " where incidents to be fixed .

People talk about rock bottom but rarely is it discussed what that actually means . It means the addict or person needing to be in a place where there is no more excuses ,no more enabling and no more outside blame .
The person is then left with a situation where they have no one else to blame but themselves. This rock bottom allows the person to then take responsibility for there own life choices possibly for the first time ,thus taking back power and learning to control themselves .


if we have a situation where boundaries are constantly stretched the person never reaches this rock bottom . The person is always carried through their worst


It is one of the first steps of recovery and the back bone of the serenity prayer ,that a person must take responsibility for their own actions and through the help of god learn to know the difference between what can and cant be controlled.

it would seem the reiners also were not willing to let go of control imo

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Learn how the Serenity Prayer supports addiction recovery and emotional healing. Its wisdom is key to compassionate care at Hazelden Betty Ford.

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I agree and I have a theory about why that happens:

I think most of NR's childhood issues may have stemmed from what happens to 'famous' Hollywood families.

I have known several 'child stars' and seen them grow up as my child also worked in the industry. It is a MINEFIELD.

And it can be even worse for young children of huge celebrities. EVERYONE treats the little children AS IF they are royalty. It is the way others can kiss up to Rob Reiner and his father----by treating his little boy as if he was a little prince, it is a way of showing respect to Rob and also buttering him up.

So big time agents and producers and actors who want to work on projects or gain favour with Rob, will routinely spoil his children with gifts and attention.

When that happens to young child stars, at least the working child actor has some context----I am being treated favourably, given gifts from celebrities and tickets to the Oscars and music concerts, etc, because I work hard at my craft.

But little Nick is being treated the same way as Drew Barrymore was, but he has done NOTHING AT ALL to earn those gifts or favours. All of the attention was going to him because his dad and grandpa are powerful and famous.

Ever since Nick was a toddler, he was treated like a very important person who deserved the best of everything, without lifting a finger. And the more bratty and greedy he became, the more attention he got from everyone.

 

[steeltowngirl]

Nicks' hiding/concealing the murder weapon and clothing points to a thinking, planning mindset.
They're going to have an uphill road with full-blown insanity, imo.
Any knives missing from the house ?
Maybe if possible find out where he went and check trash cans.
I know, it's a long shot.
Sick, and so heinous.
Still boggles the mind how anyone can do this to their mom and dad.
Omo.

I hope LAPD also reviewed records from the night / early morning of the murders, for other possible assaults in the area. Wouldn’t surprise me if Nick had also lashed out at a dealer or a homeless person as he walked around town raging, and potentially under the influence.

JMO

 

[otto]

I don't agree that Nick was "controlled". He's a 32 year old man who wanted to live in his parents' guest house. He didn't have to live there, he could live elsewhere if he wanted.

Every 32 year old knows that parents have house rules, and adult children are expected to respect them. If they won't, then they are not welcome.

That's not control, that's life. Jobs have rules, society has rules, roads have rules, sidewalks have rules - everywhere there are rules.

Nick wants to live like an obnoxious teenager who has endless privilege without assuming responsibility. He's a rude, angry man in his 30s who seems to enjoy upsetting others.

 

[otto]

Nick, like any 32 year old, knows better than to walk up to someone he's already met and ask: What’s your name? What’s your last name? Are you famous? He is not reported to have done that with strangers on the street. He was looking for a reaction, an argument. He wanted to provoke, and he provoked enough that he was asked to leave.

I think that Nick chose to be obnoxious because he was looking for conflict, and to cause upset. He may have believed that he could control emotional responses in others by trying to elicit a shock reaction ... most likely for his own amusement.

I'm betting that he was not in that mood prior to his parents inviting him to join them. They would have left him at home if he was acting that rude. He chose to be in that rude mood after he arrived at the party.

The reaction he received made him angry, and he embraced that anger after he was forced to leave the party.

"But the final social event of the filmmakers and activists’ lives was on Saturday night, when they brought their long-troubled son Nick to a party at Conan O’Brien’s house, according to a person to whom the gathering was described. Nick, who struggled with substance abuse issues for more than half his life, interrupted comedian Bill Hader—whom Rob had introduced Nick to earlier at the party—with a series of strange questions: What’s your name? What’s your last name? Are you famous?

Nick, 32, had been asking other partygoers the same questions, the person said—behavior that would be unusual at any party, but was particularly so at a gathering of entertainment A-listers. He was eventually asked to leave, the person said. It was the last time Rob and Michele Reiner’s friends in Hollywood would see them alive."

https://www.wsj.com/us-news/rob-reiner-last-week-death-c13b363e

 

[su5ie]

Nick, like any 32 year old, knows better than to walk up to someone he's already met and ask: What’s your name? What’s your last name? Are you famous? He is not reported to have done that with strangers on the street. He was looking for a reaction, an argument. He wanted to provoke, and he provoked enough that he was asked to leave.

I think that Nick chose to be obnoxious because he was looking for conflict, and to cause upset. He may have believed that he could control emotional responses in others by trying to elicit a shock reaction ... most likely for his own amusement.

I'm betting that he was not in that mood prior to his parents inviting him to join them. They would have left him at home if he was acting that rude. He chose to be in that rude mood after he arrived at the party.

The reaction he received made him angry, and he embraced that anger after he was forced to leave the party.

"But the final social event of the filmmakers and activists’ lives was on Saturday night, when they brought their long-troubled son Nick to a party at Conan O’Brien’s house, according to a person to whom the gathering was described. Nick, who struggled with substance abuse issues for more than half his life, interrupted comedian Bill Hader—whom Rob had introduced Nick to earlier at the party—with a series of strange questions: What’s your name? What’s your last name? Are you famous?

Nick, 32, had been asking other partygoers the same questions, the person said—behavior that would be unusual at any party, but was particularly so at a gathering of entertainment A-listers. He was eventually asked to leave, the person said. It was the last time Rob and Michele Reiner’s friends in Hollywood would see them alive."

https://www.wsj.com/us-news/rob-reiner-last-week-death-c13b363e

Unfortunately behind a paywall for me

But one of the articles linked within their one says nick will have an arraignment hearing in the new year .

I thought this was usually the defendants first court appearance whereby the judge reads the charge and the defendant enters a plea

So if Nicks court appearance the other day was not an arraignment hearing what was it and why was he present in court

 

[SaraSmile]

I can't see his sister or brother wanting to visit him.

I’m thinking his brother and sister were the ones who hired AJ. If they completely washed their hands of nick, then they would have accepted a public defender for him.
I agree, I would not visit Nick, myself, if I was a sister.

The question posed above was, what does the remaining family want?

I’m just thinking they must want something for Nick, by hiring AJ. What do you think it is?
No one wants acquittal, of course, not possible anyway.

First and foremost he would have to have family and friends able to keep him grounded and stable. His family was enabling him and appeasing way before he got addicted. As for friends, considering his explosive temper I doubt he had any. Anyway, even if there was someone he could call a friend that person would be most probably a teenager, just like Nick. Teenagers struggle to keep themselves grounded, let alone other teens with severe mental issues and addiction to boot. Last but not least, addicts drive their friends away, leaving only enablers.

Agreed.
Yes, those wilderness camps sound brutal! I can only imagine druggie kids encouraging other druggie kids, getting worse, not better. Defeats the whole purpose.

I can't see his sister or brother wanting to visit him.

 

[Incredholt]

Unfortunately behind a paywall for me

But one of the articles linked within their one says nick will have an arraignment hearing in the new year .

I thought this was usually the defendants first court appearance whereby the judge reads the charge and the defendant enters a plea

So if Nicks court appearance the other day was not an arraignment hearing what was it and why was he present in court

It was supposed to be an arraignment hearing but then when the hearing started his attorney asked for arraignment to be pushed back.

Nick Reiner declines to enter plea as he makes first court appearance in parents' murder case

Nick Reiner did not enter a plea as he appeared from behind the glass wall of a custody area in shackles and wearing a jail suicide prevention smock.

www.nbclosangeles.com

 

[su5ie]

It was supposed to be an arraignment hearing but then when the hearing started his attorney asked for arraignment to be pushed back.

Nick Reiner declines to enter plea as he makes first court appearance in parents' murder case

Nick Reiner did not enter a plea as he appeared from behind the glass wall of a custody area in shackles and wearing a jail suicide prevention smock.

www.nbclosangeles.com

I'm sure there is many possible reasons why the accused would not enter a plea and his lawyer put forward a reason of its too early to plea

But in this particular case where it would seem there is no other suspect and with what is known about Nick . What do posters think would be reasons for him to wait .

 

[NuttMegg]

Yes, but the point here is that he was never even given a chance to realize it for himself. His formulative years were spent hanging out with hardcore junkies far away from his family or friends who could have kept him grounded and stable. We're not talking about an adult man here but a kid. For all his wealth he never had any stability in his life. By the time he concedes and 'quits' the drugs he's completely disconnected from his family and former life with no actual ambition in life. All he knew was the drugs. Is it a surprise he was unable to adapt and grew worse because of it?

But the kid part is important to provide a context. A kid is still developing mentally and the environment he lives in has a lot to do with who he eventually shapes up to be. There's a vast difference between a 30 years old going through a rehab and a 15 years old. Much more life experience, better coping mechanisms, better understanding of yourself and the world around you, more emotional and physical durability, etc. A kid is just a kid - they just want to have fun. They are not fully developed, no understanding of the world, no adequate social skills to maneuver through difficult times alone. Nick says himself that he only started abusing heroin and other hard drugs after he was told by his bunkmate how cool it felt in rehab. Before that he was mostly on painkillers and pot. Do you see how having a 15 years old in an environment full of hardcore drug addicts far away from his family might not be the best place for him to be? And I've already explained my suggestions on what they should have done in a previous post of mine.

There's so much in your opinions of the parents' choices I don't know where to start, except here. "For all his wealth he never had any stability in his life."

I really don't know where to start. Maybe to those of us who didn't spend our entire lives in the same mansion, with a guest house to spread out in, with the same wealthy parents from birth, with no particular impetus to get the jobs we had to get at 16, working our way thru higher education...stability means something different.

 

[steeltowngirl]

I'm sure there is many possible reasons why the accused would not enter a plea and his lawyer put forward a reason of its too early to plea

But in this particular case where it would seem there is no other suspect and with what is known about Nick . What do posters think would be reasons for him to wait .

Reason for the wait:
The defense lawyer is likely gathering evidence to support a NGRI plea.

JMO

 

[NuttMegg]

I’m thinking his brother and sister were the ones who hired AJ. If they completely washed their hands of nick, then they would have accepted a public defender for him.
I agree, I would not visit Nick, myself, if I was a sister.

The question posed above was, what does the remaining family want?

I’m just thinking they must want something for Nick, by hiring AJ. What do you think it is?
No one wants acquittal, of course, not possible anyway.

Agreed.
Yes, those wilderness camps sound brutal! I can only imagine druggie kids encouraging other druggie kids, getting worse, not better. Defeats the whole purpose.

I've missed any reference to NR attending a wilderness camp.

 

[SaraSmile]

Unfortunately behind a paywall for me

But one of the articles linked within their one says nick will have an arraignment hearing in the new year .

I thought this was usually the defendants first court appearance whereby the judge reads the charge and the defendant enters a plea

So if Nicks court appearance the other day was not an arraignment hearing what was it and why was he present in court

His lawyer, AJ asked to postpone til early Jan 7, To better access Nick’s Mental Health, and in any case, he needed Nicks medical clearance to proceed. Nick needed to say out loud, to the judge, that yes, he was was agreeing to *waive a speedy arraignment*, which he did.

 

[SaraSmile]

I've missed any reference to NR attending a wilderness camp.

Sorry, I wrote on the wrong spot. There was a discussion about wilderness camps upthread.
I’m new here, Thanks in advance, for understanding

 

[Megnut]

I'm sure there is many possible reasons why the accused would not enter a plea and his lawyer put forward a reason of its too early to plea

But in this particular case where it would seem there is no other suspect and with what is known about Nick . What do posters think would be reasons for him to wait .

100% strategy.

The evidence, I suspect, is going to be indisputable. I've seen cases where a defendant concedes to just about every known fact of a case, then gets creative as to a defense. He'll need time to decide his approach. What to cop to, what to deny, what doctors or RXs to blame, and a yellow brick road of insanity to lay...

JMO

 

[NuttMegg]

Sorry, I wrote on the wrong spot. There was a discussion about wilderness camps upthread.
I’m new here, Thanks in advance, for understanding

No problem at all. I would just like to learn more about where he went, I remember something he said about being in Maine. And having to behave or he would be sent back, something like that.

I think he was unfixable anyway. And I have real mixed feelings about the family supporting him, mostly negative. Maybe he has some trust fund so it's his money anyway. Or does murder stop a poor disadvantaged guy from drawing from a trust fund.

 

[SaraSmile]

No problem at all. I would just like to learn more about where he went, I remember something he said about being in Maine. And having to behave or he would be sent back, something like that.

I think he was unfixable anyway. And I have real mixed feelings about the family supporting him, mostly negative. Maybe he has some trustfund so it's his money anyway.

I think the reference to wilderness camps, was a specific camp HS in Utah that he attended. Maybe someone can find upthread. His parents sent him after he first got hooked in HS, teen years. It’s like a boarding school, HS, with rigorous wilderness exercises to build character, more than 30 days. Probably expensive. He met another druggie friend, and they stayed friends after for a bit.

 

[Izzylizzy]

I’m thinking his brother and sister were the ones who hired AJ. If they completely washed their hands of nick, then they would have accepted a public defender for him.
I agree, I would not visit Nick, myself, if I was a sister.

The question posed above was, what does the remaining family want?

I’m just thinking they must want something for Nick, by hiring AJ. What do you think it is?
No one wants acquittal, of course, not possible anyway.

Agreed.
Yes, those wilderness camps sound brutal! I can only imagine druggie kids encouraging other druggie kids, getting worse, not better. Defeats the whole purpose.

Since NR most likely has some kind of trust fund being appointed a public defender seems unlikely.
imo

 

[Izzylizzy]

I think the reference to wilderness camps, was a specific camp HS in Utah that he attended. Maybe someone can find upthread. His parents sent him after he first got hooked in HS, teen years. It’s like a boarding school, HS, with rigorous wilderness exercises to build character, more than 30 days. Probably expensive. He met another druggie friend, and they stayed friends after for a bit.

Inside the Wilderness Rehab That Changed Nick Reiner Forever

Former patients and family speak out about the wilderness program that may have altered Nick Reiner’s path.

www.yahoo.com

 

[SaraSmile]

Since NR most likely has some kind of trust fund being appointed a public defender seems unlikely.
imo

I gotcha, until, or if he is convicted, would the trust fund then, be blocked? Since it originated from parents?
Or is the Trust Fund His, regardless, since it’s already been designated to him

 

[SaraSmile]

Inside the Wilderness Rehab That Changed Nick Reiner Forever

Former patients and family speak out about the wilderness program that may have altered Nick Reiner’s path.

www.yahoo.com

Thank you.