CA - Murder victims Identified as Rob Reiner and wife Michele - LA Dec 14 2025

[steeltowngirl]

Is it the defense that must prove Nick was insane at the time of the murder

From my research into the insanity plea , the burden of proof lays with AJ and as for the outcome if successful. Nick will be put into a mental health facility indefinitely and the defendant often will spend longer in the facility than if they pleaded guilty and recieved a prison sentence. It would appear he might be better off pleading diminished responsibility by reason of drug/ medication induced psychosis

How can they blame medication-induced psychosis if he was using street drugs along with his prescribed meds?

 

[su5ie]

How can they blame medication-induced psychosis if he was using street drugs along with his prescribed meds?

Just curiosity on my part. I'm interested to see if tox results are released

 

[Betty P]

Just curiosity on my part. I'm interested to see if tox results are released

JMO, I have a feeling they will be released. The prosecution will probably use the toxicology reports as evidence. Whether or not the reports reveal illegal drug use, the subject will be covered. IIRC, in LA it takes about 6 to 8 weeks for results?

 

[Tealgrove]

Exactly !

Again my .02 ; NR's rage was against his parents.
Not the doctors who prescribed his meds.
Not the rehab stays nor the employees working there.
Not his siblings.
Not his drug dealer or 'friends' he indulged with while in his homeless phases.

Just his mom and dad.
Telling in that his misplaced anger and self-centered narcissism blamed the two people who cared and had tried to help him.
Awful.
Now they're gone forever out of his life, and NR has no one to blame except himself.
Imo.

He hated his parents because they wanted him to stop using drugs.

He hated his parents because they wanted him to deal with his mental illness. They wanted him to take prescribed meds and get healthy mentally, and physically.

He hated his parents because they had rules and boundaries that affected his ability to get high.

He hated his parents because he wanted to live his life his way and they intruded and pressured him to live differently.

An addict only cares about the next high. They don’t let others get in the way of the next pill, smoke, drink, snort, needle etc. That’s all they care about. That’s their life.

Nick liked that life. That’s what he wanted. His parents stood in the way of Nick’s ability to live the life of an addict. He didn’t want to stop. He had no desire to change his life.

Nick wanted his parents’ money, house, and whatever else he could manipulate them into doing for him unequivocally.

He is a mentally ill, (would not be surprised in the least to find out he is schizophrenic), drug addicted immensely angry man/child who despised his parents for loving him and doing what they hoped would would help/save him.

The Reiners are guilty of loving their child. After all they had been through with Nick, they tried so hard and he hated them for it.

Nick is guilty of cold blooded murder. The murder of his parents. Such a horrible tragedy. Probably the only people who loved and cared about him he chose to brutally murder while they slept. If he did slit their throats, he’s truly a monster, mentally ill or not.

Nick Reiner should never walk among us again. Whether a mental institution, or prison for life, that’s where he belongs.

Respectfully MOO

 

[LinasK]

I’m thinking his brother and sister were the ones who hired AJ. If they completely washed their hands of nick, then they would have accepted a public defender for him.
I agree, I would not visit Nick, myself, if I was a sister.

The question posed above was, what does the remaining family want?

I’m just thinking they must want something for Nick, by hiring AJ. What do you think it is?
No one wants acquittal, of course, not possible anyway.

Agreed.
Yes, those wilderness camps sound brutal! I can only imagine druggie kids encouraging other druggie kids, getting worse, not better. Defeats the whole purpose.

The thing is that we don't know who hired Alan Jackson, that's an assumption on your part. Rob and Michelle both had siblings as well. I'm assuming it was extended family like them who hired him.

 

[MistyWaters]

Just curiosity on my part. I'm interested to see if tox results are released

I know it’s said it takes about six weeks to receive results of a post-mortem toxicology tests but I can’t see how it takes that long when the patient is alive. For example many workplaces do routine drug testing of employees and especially if there’s been an accident on the job.

 

[LinasK]

I'm sure there is many possible reasons why the accused would not enter a plea and his lawyer put forward a reason of its too early to plea

But in this particular case where it would seem there is no other suspect and with what is known about Nick . What do posters think would be reasons for him to wait .

Detox. Make sure he's mentally competent to stand trial. It was a long time before Lori Vallow saw court.

 

[MistyWaters]

The thing is that we don't know who hired Alan Jackson, that's an assumption on your part. Rob and Michelle both had siblings as well. I'm assuming it was extended family like them who hired him.

Or his grandfather may’ve left him a healthy trust and AJ might’ve agreed to reduced fees in lieu of publicity.

 

[LinasK]

I gotcha, until, or if he is convicted, would the trust fund then, be blocked? Since it originated from parents?
Or is the Trust Fund His, regardless, since it’s already been designated to him

A murderer can't profit from their conviction, so I think he'd lose any trust fund money upon conviction.

 

[LinasK]

If I assume that NR has always had issues, even from when he was a young child, and the whole family knew it and did the best they knew how to help him and maybe know far more than I do about NR and why what happened might have just been a result of something no one could fix, then the family might hope for life in a controlled mental facility (if the estate can afford it). For all I know, they might even have seen this coming and could do nothing about it. So to me, it makes sense if the family wants to try and keep him in an environment where he is safe and everyone is safe from him. JMO.

And I have to be honest. I have no idea who Bill Hader is, either. So maybe he was being obnoxious, or maybe his short term memory was not working and his filter was off. The results would be the same, IMO.

Bill Hader is a comedian who used to be on SNL.

 

[Ghostwheel]

Bill Hader is a comedian who used to be on SNL.

Well I know that NOW......

 

[LinasK]

 

[LinasK]

This one's even funnier:

 

[otto]

He hated his parents because they wanted him to stop using drugs.

He hated his parents because they wanted him to deal with his mental illness. They wanted him to take prescribed meds and get healthy mentally, and physically.

He hated his parents because they had rules and boundaries that affected his ability to get high.

He hated his parents because he wanted to live his life his way and they intruded and pressured him to live differently.

An addict only cares about the next high. They don’t let others get in the way of the next pill, smoke, drink, snort, needle etc. That’s all they care about. That’s their life.

Nick liked that life. That’s what he wanted. His parents stood in the way of Nick’s ability to live the life of an addict. He didn’t want to stop. He had no desire to change his life.

Nick wanted his parents’ money, house, and whatever else he could manipulate them into doing for him unequivocally.

He is a mentally ill, (would not be surprised in the least to find out he is schizophrenic), drug addicted immensely angry man/child who despised his parents for loving him and doing what they hoped would would help/save him.

The Reiners are guilty of loving their child. After all they had been through with Nick, they tried so hard and he hated them for it.

Nick is guilty of cold blooded murder. The murder of his parents. Such a horrible tragedy. Probably the only people who loved and cared about him he chose to brutally murder while they slept. If he did slit their throats, he’s truly a monster, mentally ill or not.

Nick Reiner should never walk among us again. Whether a mental institution, or prison for life, that’s where he belongs.

Respectfully MOO

I'm not convinced that Nick is mentally ill. He wasn't mentally ill when he produced a film with his father. He wasn't wandering around talking to the wall, or hallucinating. He produced a film and attended interviews to discuss the film. No mental illness.

I think Nick is rude, obnoxious, and that he gets a kick out of shocking others. His parents are wealth, Nick is entitled, and he wants his parents' lifestyle without effort or responsibility. Nick wants to be the cool kid hanging out by the pool getting stoned and, when he's in a bad mood, he wants to destroy and damage his parents property without consequence.

According to Nick, you don't "want to set him off." Why is that? The 32 year old man doesn't feel like controlling his temper?

That's not mental illness. That's cruelty, arrogance, self-indulgence, and disrespect.

Nick said (Access Interview): his life is being in an opulent situation and still choosing to do drugs

 

[Dotta]

What exactly is his education?
Any College?
Sports?
Did he ever have a job?
(Except working on the film once with his father)
How come a man over 30 STILL lived with parents?
What was his aim in life?
Ambition?

 

[LinasK]

I'm not convinced that Nick is mentally ill. He wasn't mentally ill when he produced a film with his father. He wasn't wandering around talking to the wall, or hallucinating. He produced a film and attended interviews to discuss the film. No mental illness.

I think Nick is rude, obnoxious, and that he gets a kick out of shocking others. His parents are wealth, Nick is entitled, and he wants his parents' lifestyle without effort or responsibility. Nick wants to be the cool kid hanging out by the pool getting stoned and, when he's in a bad mood, he wants to destroy and damage his parents property without consequence.

According to Nick, you don't "want to set him off." Why is that? The 32 year old man doesn't feel like controlling his temper?

That's not mental illness. That's cruelty, arrogance, self-indulgence, and disrespect.

Nick said (Access Interview): his life is being in an opulent situation and still choosing to do drugs

Well due to his selfishness, he's lost all of that. He killed the only people who ever really cared about him, and now he'll never live in a opulent setting ever again nor do recreational drugs. I wonder how long it will take him to realize that fact. Even if he goes to a mental hospital for the rest of his life, it won't be the spa-like drug rehabs.

 

[Izzylizzy]

Aired May 28, 2019

At 19 Rob says is when he felt "real validation" from his dad after RR directed "No Exit" with Richard Dreyfuss.
"That was good, no bullchit" The next day CR told him "I'm not worried about you, whatever you choose you're gonna do it great".




A must see.
"Rob and Carl Reiner sat down with Dan Rather to talk about the many movies they have worked on over the years, including When Harry Met Sally, Princess Bride, Stand By Me, Spinal Tap and many more".

 

[Izzylizzy]

What exactly is his education?
Any College?
Sports?
Did he ever have a job?
(Except working on the film once with his father)
How come a man over 30 STILL lived with parents?
What was his aim in life?
Ambition?

All I read was he got his GED somewhere along the line.

Nothing about a job/career/friends/girlfriends/interests.

 

[Izzylizzy]

It's so bitter-sweet seeing and listening to RR and his dad.

A Few Good Memories​

Rob Reiner told me he knew Trump was trouble​

Dan Rather and Team Steady
Dec 18, 2025




With Carl and Rob Reiner in 2019

cont

A Few Good Memories

Rob Reiner told me he knew Trump was trouble

steady.substack.com

 

[acutename]

Well due to his selfishness, he's lost all of that. He killed the only people who ever really cared about him, and now he'll never live in a opulent setting ever again nor do recreational drugs. I wonder how long it will take him to realize that fact. Even if he goes to a mental hospital for the rest of his life, it won't be the spa-like drug rehabs.

some people can not be rehabilitated- Mathew Perry? some people cannot be weened off drugs and they kill themselves. Wonder if the Reiners locked their bedroom door or if they thought NR would never hurt them. Adam Lanza, school shooter shot his mom first. It is not unheard of for the parents to get attacked:

Creigh Deeds Tells Son's Mental Health Horror Story​

creigh-deeds-tells-sons-mental-health-horror-story
<Modnote: Added link to actual story>

U.S. News & World Report
https://www.usnews.com › News › Politics


Mar 31, 2014 — Deeds was stabbed by his 24-year-old son Gus Deeds multiple times Nov. 19, 2013, at his home in Bath County, Va.
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sorry but I do not think that NR is going to "wake up" and regret what he did. he is addicted and or irrational without normal emotions. IMO