CA - Murder victims Identified as Rob Reiner and wife Michele - LA Dec 14 2025

[LinasK]

some people can not be rehabilitated- Mathew Perry? some people cannot be weened off drugs and they kill themselves. Wonder if the Reiners locked their bedroom door or if they thought NR would never hurt them. Adam Lanza, school shooter shot his mom first. It is not unheard of for the parents to get attacked:
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Creigh Deeds Tells Son's Mental Health Horror Story​

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U.S. News & World Report
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Mar 31, 2014 — Deeds was stabbed by his 24-year-old son Gus Deeds multiple times Nov. 19, 2013, at his home in Bath County, Va.
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sorry but I do not think that NR is going to "wake up" and regret what he did. he is addicted and or irrational without normal emotions. IMO

I too was wondered whether or not the Reiner's locked their bedroom door. I would with someone like Nick around.

 

[Luna20]

There are and have been many rumors about CR and RR over the years. Easily found with a search. Another reason they probably don't want a trial. IMO

Carl?

 

[LadyL]

I'm not convinced that Nick is mentally ill. He wasn't mentally ill when he produced a film with his father. He wasn't wandering around talking to the wall, or hallucinating. He produced a film and attended interviews to discuss the film. No mental illness.

I think Nick is rude, obnoxious, and that he gets a kick out of shocking others. His parents are wealth, Nick is entitled, and he wants his parents' lifestyle without effort or responsibility. Nick wants to be the cool kid hanging out by the pool getting stoned and, when he's in a bad mood, he wants to destroy and damage his parents property without consequence.

According to Nick, you don't "want to set him off." Why is that? The 32 year old man doesn't feel like controlling his temper?

That's not mental illness. That's cruelty, arrogance, self-indulgence, and disrespect.

Nick said (Access Interview): his life is being in an opulent situation and still choosing to do drugs

I'm not sure what your idea of mental illness is but many mentally ill people function in society without talking to walls or hallucinating. Sometimes their meds actually work, sometimes they don't, sometimes the cocktail isn't quite right, sometimes they don't take their prescriptions properly, sometimes they also self-medicate with other un-prescribed drugs and alcohol, and even then, they can also function ok in society while a bomb goes off in their inner world. I have two nephews with schizophrenia. They don't walk around talking to walls or hallucinating 24/7.

 

[doublestop]

There are and have been many rumors about CR and RR over the years. Easily found with a search. Another reason they probably don't want a trial. IMO

Actually I couldn't find anything with a search. What are you referring to?

 

[ttjo]

DBM

 

[JDG]

Dbm

 

[everlearning]

Actually I couldn't find anything with a search. What are you referring to?

Oh goodness, probably no links that can be posted. As I briefly looked tonight, the only info I could find was from X. I'm not saying I believe those rumors, just that I read some, and that it could pose a problem. NR brutally murdered his parents. I pray that only the truth comes to light. IMO, he needs to be incarcerated for life.

 

[Betty P]

Maybe like this article?

How Rob Reiner’s need for father Carl’s approval shaped his relationship with son and alleged killer Nick

Rob Reiner said his famous father Carl was not always around — something he made sure not to repeat while raising his own children, according to an interview with NPR.

nypost.com

Websleuths is a victim-friendly forum.

 

[ttjo]

Websleuths is a victim-friendly forum.

Oh that must be why @everlearning said a simple search you will find it. Thanks for mentioning that, I didnt realize it could be viewed as negative. I deleted it.

 

[LifeIsAMystery]

I've missed any reference to NR attending a wilderness camp

DBM

 

[su5ie]

I had a little think last night and I remembered a post I had seen from a fellow poster in another thread

They said we never know what our fellow posters are going through behind the keys of their keyboard

And I feel in the case more than others it is a valid point

Mental health crosses all divides and has no preferences for whom it inflicts

It's an extremely sensitive topic and I'm sorry if I've been harsh or judging of mental health issues being the sole cause of this atrocious killing

I feel mental health issues were secondary to the primary cause which was Nicks predisposition for chaos, resentment, narcissism and anger coupled with a probable entitled persona

Mental health issues didn't cause him to be confrontational, in fact the opposite is often more factual

A person often becomes mentally ill because they have a lived in experience of the opposite of deviance, they have struggled through insecurity, trauma and an inability to assert themselves

Nick imo and moo has a deviant personality type and it was his personality and neurological make up that created the scenario we see before us , it was not depression nor schizophrenia or drug use .

It is the cluster of all that cause murder but most notably an evil predisposition and propensity. He enjoyed watching people walking on egg shells and feeling uncomfortable. We see evidence of this in his interviews and his interaction at the party

When his control over this stopped he wiped out his source of amusement

Moho

 

[BUF]

Worth a listen…..

 

[Dotta]

I had a little think last night and I remembered a post I had seen from a fellow poster in another thread

They said we never know what our fellow posters are going through behind the keys of their keyboard

And I feel in the case more than others it is a valid point

Mental health crosses all divides and has no preferences for whom it inflicts

It's an extremely sensitive topic and I'm sorry if I've been harsh or judging of mental health issues being the sole cause of this atrocious killing

I feel mental health issues were secondary to the primary cause which was Nicks predisposition for chaos, resentment, narcissism and anger coupled with a probable entitled persona

Mental health issues didn't cause him to be confrontational, in fact the opposite is often more factual

A person often becomes mentally ill because they have a lived in experience of the opposite of deviance, they have struggled through insecurity, trauma and an inability to assert themselves

Nick imo and moo has a deviant personality type and it was his personality and neurological make up that created the scenario we see before us , it was not depression nor schizophrenia or drug use .

It is the cluster of all that cause murder but most notably an evil predisposition and propensity. He enjoyed watching people walking on egg shells and feeling uncomfortable. We see evidence of this in his interviews and his interaction at the party

When his control over this stopped he wiped out his source of amusement

Moho

IMO
He was drifting aimlessly through life, with no specific purpose or ambition.
No education, no job, no his own home with family - despite being a mature adult of 30+.
Dependent on elderly parents on everything.
If he suffers from schizophrenia,
it seems it was only diagnosed not long ago.
Constantly on drugs, addicted to alcohol.
What life is this?
I see it as abyss.
Full of resentment and hateful feelings.
It is a pity that no therapy helped him.
Wasted life.
Sinking to the bottom he dragged others.
Murdering parents is the ultimate fall.
I don't think this person is fit to be ever released.

JMO

 

[SaraSmile]

Worth a listen…..

Consciousness of guilt after murder.

 

[otto]

The spectrum of mental illness, mental health, and are we all mad?

Since the year 2000, the term mental illness has been replaced with mental health. According to recent studies, we are all mad. All of us can experience events during our lives that are characterized as mental health issues; formerly labeled mental illness, such as "depression, anxiety, or suicidal ideation."

According to new terminology for mental illness, Nick is mentally ill because he suffers mental health issues. Is he mentally ill according to the original definition, where he should be sent downstream on the ship of fools? Not likely. This is not only because he lives an "opulent life" (per Nick interview), but because he has demonstrated that he can live a normal, healthy productive life when he chooses. At best, Nick experiences bouts of mental health issues, but not lifelong mental health/ illness.

Did Nick have a mental health issue in the moment that he murdered his parents? Of course. He had uncontrolled anger - defined today as a mental health issue. Does that remove responsibility for committing murder? Absolutely not.

"Narrenschiff: the ship of fools. This phrase is typically remembered as a literary trope today, but in the twelfth century this concept had a tangible counterpart. Towns, which were unable to treat the mentally ill, would round up the mentally ill and load them onto vessels before unceremoniously shipping them downstream.
...

In the December [2016] issue of The Lancet Psychiatry, Dinesh Bhugra and colleagues1 share their perception that the use of the term “mental illness” has been phased out during the past 25 years, in favour of less stigmatising terms such as “mental health”.​

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpsy/article/PIIS2215-0366%2817%2930088-3/fulltext

"The history of madness paints a picture in which the madman has had their identity ascribed by varying parties over time. Prior to the Enlightenment, he was afflicted by the gods and therefore a helpless victim. As The Great Confinement spread across the western world, the madman was seen as having chosen unreason. Then, the madman existed as a danger to society. It was this very confinement that allowed the mad to be studied, thus making them subjects in a matter of global scientific discourse. Yet it was only in the modern era that the madman was seen as an ill patient, one whose condition was diagnosed by one set of artifacts and could treated by another.
...

To account for both the transient nature of mental conditions and the fact that truly anybody could benefit from psychiatric treatment at some point in their life, a spectral view of mental health and illness must be adopted. This perspective dispels the notion that mental health and illness exist in dichotomy and recognizes the reality that we may all experience periods of depression, anxiety, or suicidal ideation. Acceptance of these conditions as normal in that we are all vulnerable to them not only combats stigma, it encourages those who would otherwise suffer without aid for fear of admitting their illness.
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The current understanding of normal behavior fails to encapsulate the nuanced nature of the mind and its conditions. Until a perspective that recognizes everyone as having the potential to benefit from psychiatric care gains widespread acceptance, stigmas against those with severe symptoms will persist while those with transient and minor symptoms will fail to receive the benefits of psychiatric care."​

https://ojs.stanford.edu/ojs/index.php/intersect/article/download/899/921/3977

 

[doublestop]

he has demonstrated that he can live a normal, healthy productive life when he chooses.

When has he done that? I didn't think he'd ever lived a productive, normal life.

 

[otto]

When has he done that? I didn't think he'd ever lived a productive, normal life.

When has Nick lived a normal productive life? There is evidence of this in 2015, 2016 and in November 2025. There are several instances during Nick's life where he did not exhibit any sign of mental health issues.

Nick wrote and co-produced a film in 2015. That's a remarkable achievement! He attended media interviews in 2016, appearing completely normal and candid. In November 2025, Nick was completely normal and interacted with family and friends without any sign of mental health issues.

"Cinematographer Barry Markowitz, one of Rob’s close friends and longtime collaborators, spoke about recently staying [Nov 14, 2025] at the Reiner residence in Brentwood, Calif.
...

Markowitz joined Rob, Michele and their kids — Nick, 32, and Romy, 28 — as they went about their days “business as usual.” ... “scream at the TV, watched a movie, a basketball game, played with the dogs, family time. One big love fest.”

“Nick looked great. He was sitting and talking with the family, they eat dinner together, old school, and always a lot of love.” Nick would play tennis or “shoot hoops.” ... “He helped out, he took out the garbage, he watched TV, he washed dishes,” he’d bring me something to drink. He was just normal in that sense.” Markowitz noted that he didn’t notice “anything strange” with the family dynamics.
...

Markowitz — who was the cinematographer on the 2015 film “Being Charlie” (written by Nick and directed by Rob) — also denied that there was any father-son tension on the movie’s set. “We were having a decent time, all of us. One big family and there was no fights,” he claimed.

Exclusive | I stayed with Rob and Nick Reiner weeks before grisly murders — what I saw inside the family home

Cinematographer Barry Markowitz, Rob’s close friend and longtime collaborator, spoke with Page Six about staying at the Reiner residence just weeks before their tragic deaths.

pagesix.com

 

[doublestop]

When has Nick lived a normal productive life? There is evidence of this in 2015, 2016 and in November 2025. There are several instances during Nick's life where he did not exhibit any sign of mental health issues.

Nick wrote and co-produced a film in 2015. That's a remarkable achievement! He attended media interviews in 2016, appearing completely normal and candid. In November 2025, Nick was completely normal and interacted with family and friends without any sign of mental health issues.

"Cinematographer Barry Markowitz, one of Rob’s close friends and longtime collaborators, spoke about recently staying [Nov 14, 2025] at the Reiner residence in Brentwood, Calif.
...

Markowitz joined Rob, Michele and their kids — Nick, 32, and Romy, 28 — as they went about their days “business as usual.” ... “scream at the TV, watched a movie, a basketball game, played with the dogs, family time. One big love fest.”

“Nick looked great. He was sitting and talking with the family, they eat dinner together, old school, and always a lot of love.” Nick would play tennis or “shoot hoops.” ... “He helped out, he took out the garbage, he watched TV, he washed dishes,” he’d bring me something to drink. He was just normal in that sense.” Markowitz noted that he didn’t notice “anything strange” with the family dynamics.
...

Markowitz — who was the cinematographer on the 2015 film “Being Charlie” (written by Nick and directed by Rob) — also denied that there was any father-son tension on the movie’s set. “We were having a decent time, all of us. One big family and there was no fights,” he claimed.

Exclusive | I stayed with Rob and Nick Reiner weeks before grisly murders — what I saw inside the family home

Cinematographer Barry Markowitz, Rob’s close friend and longtime collaborator, spoke with Page Six about staying at the Reiner residence just weeks before their tragic deaths.

pagesix.com

It's also the same article where he says "Of Nick’s mental state, he added, “It’s just a sickness. That’s my verdict.”" and

"With Nick being arrested in connection with the murders, Markowitz said he doesn’t believe Rob and Michele’s son had any motive to harm his parents.

“When somebody is mentally disturbed, you don’t need a reason. There’s no rhyme or reason,” he explained. “Mental illness, that’s the reason.” "

To me a normal few weeks here and there don't make up for a literal lifetime of odd behavior and fits of rage. There is no evidence of Nick ever holding a job, other than working with his father on that movie.

 

[SaraSmile]

He hated his parents because they wanted him to stop using drugs.

He hated his parents because they wanted him to deal with his mental illness. They wanted him to take prescribed meds and get healthy mentally, and physically.

He hated his parents because they had rules and boundaries that affected his ability to get high.

He hated his parents because he wanted to live his life his way and they intruded and pressured him to live differently.

An addict only cares about the next high. They don’t let others get in the way of the next pill, smoke, drink, snort, needle etc. That’s all they care about. That’s their life.

Nick liked that life. That’s what he wanted. His parents stood in the way of Nick’s ability to live the life of an addict. He didn’t want to stop. He had no desire to change his life.

Nick wanted his parents’ money, house, and whatever else he could manipulate them into doing for him unequivocally.

He is a mentally ill, (would not be surprised in the least to find out he is schizophrenic), drug addicted immensely angry man/child who despised his parents for loving him and doing what they hoped would would help/save him.

The Reiners are guilty of loving their child. After all they had been through with Nick, they tried so hard and he hated them for it.

Nick is guilty of cold blooded murder. The murder of his parents. Such a horrible tragedy. Probably the only people who loved and cared about him he chose to brutally murder while they slept. If he did slit their throats, he’s truly a monster, mentally ill or not.

Nick Reiner should never walk among us again. Whether a mental institution, or prison for life, that’s where he belongs.

Respectfully MOO

Totally agree

 

[lohrtabitha]

When has Nick lived a normal productive life? There is evidence of this in 2015, 2016 and in November 2025. There are several instances during Nick's life where he did not exhibit any sign of mental health issues.

Nick wrote and co-produced a film in 2015. That's a remarkable achievement! He attended media interviews in 2016, appearing completely normal and candid. In November 2025, Nick was completely normal and interacted with family and friends without any sign of mental health issues.

"Cinematographer Barry Markowitz, one of Rob’s close friends and longtime collaborators, spoke about recently staying [Nov 14, 2025] at the Reiner residence in Brentwood, Calif.
...

Markowitz joined Rob, Michele and their kids — Nick, 32, and Romy, 28 — as they went about their days “business as usual.” ... “scream at the TV, watched a movie, a basketball game, played with the dogs, family time. One big love fest.”

“Nick looked great. He was sitting and talking with the family, they eat dinner together, old school, and always a lot of love.” Nick would play tennis or “shoot hoops.” ... “He helped out, he took out the garbage, he watched TV, he washed dishes,” he’d bring me something to drink. He was just normal in that sense.” Markowitz noted that he didn’t notice “anything strange” with the family dynamics.
...

Markowitz — who was the cinematographer on the 2015 film “Being Charlie” (written by Nick and directed by Rob) — also denied that there was any father-son tension on the movie’s set. “We were having a decent time, all of us. One big family and there was no fights,” he claimed.

Exclusive | I stayed with Rob and Nick Reiner weeks before grisly murders — what I saw inside the family home

Cinematographer Barry Markowitz, Rob’s close friend and longtime collaborator, spoke with Page Six about staying at the Reiner residence just weeks before their tragic deaths.

pagesix.com

Just because others see you as acting normal doesn't mean you are necessarily well. I suffered a bad depression in my early 20s and now I am in my 50s. I have take depression medicine now for over 30 years. I have a mental illness. I always will. It will never disappear. The medicine has allowed me to be happy and live a normal life.Let us be clear on that! 1 out of 4 people experience depression. It probably is higher. Maybe during these time frames you suggest Nick was taking his meds and was in control or pretending to be anyways. Moo