CA - Murder victims Identified as Rob Reiner and wife Michele - LA Dec 14 2025

[IzzyBlanche]

It was said that RR restrained NR in a bear hug to control him while still at Conan’s holiday party.

May I ask for link? Thank you.

 

[AuDHD]

What does mental illness look like? What's a normal kid?

I have diagnosed bipolar 1, which is well known to have a big genetic component. It's been documented that I've had it since being a little kid, though I wasn't diagnosed until my 20's... I'm normal! I don't look any more "mentally ill" than say you for example... Mental illness isn't necessarily visible. Sure when I'm manic I may look a bit different but thankfully I'm on fantastic meds so that's not very often, but I always have bipolar 1 and unfortunately I always will.

I need to catch up on this whole thread as I'm a little behind the legalities but I imagine this is gonna be a go at NGRI and very likely succeed.

Tragic all round.

I see you. It’s really hard for me when various mental health diagnoses are in the news. Everyone has a negative opinion and they seem unrestrained in expressing it on public forums & comments (although WS is better than most about removing content like that). The fact is, the vast majority of ppl with comparable diagnoses never harm a fly & in fact are far more likely to be victims of violence (source: an old bbc article ). JMO

 

[otto]

Here's What To Know About Nick Reiner

Nick Reiner is accused of killing his parents, director and actor Rob Reiner, and film producer Michele Singer Reiner.

www.huffpost.com

“The Los Angeles Times reported that a law enforcement source said the parents of Reiner were looking into a conservatorship over him.”

Huffpost does make that claim about a conservatorship, but the linked LA Times article in the Huffpost article does not mention a conservatorship.

Perhaps the article was updated to remove a reference to a conservatorship:

Nick Reiner struggled with addiction and shared his recovery with the world. Now, he's accused of killing parents

On Monday, Nick Reiner was booked into the L.A. County jail on suspicion of murder, hours after his parents Rob and Michele Reiner were found dead inside their Brentwood home.

www.latimes.com

 

[otto]

May I ask for link? Thank you.

I have only seen one article about Rob using a bearhug to subdue Nick. Nick was 11 years old.

Today, Nick is 6'3" and 230 pounds. Bear hug would not subdue him.

“I was over there, it must have been early 2000s because he was about 11, and he was throwing the biggest tantrum, and [Rob] Reiner just had him in a bear hug to restrain him,” he continued."

Nick Reiner threw ‘terrifying’ tantrums even as a kid: ‘So much anger in his eyes’

"He had so much anger in his eyes. It was terrifying really."

www.aol.com

 

[Cool Cats]

Chilling Video of Rob Reiner and Son Nick Reiner Resurfaces After Double Tragedy: 'Dad Clearly Loved Him'

Fans are devastated by a viral video of Rob Reiner and son Nick Reiner, seeing a chilling new meaning in the director's attempts to guide his son. The footage, promoting a film about addiction, now offers heartbreaking context for the family's loss.

parade.com

In the clip, Rob appears eager to bridge the gap with his son, answering questions with a protective warmth that viewers now find gut-wrenching.

“Dad clearly loved him,” one YouTube user commented, echoing the feelings of thousands who have watched the footage since the tragedy. “Look how Rob is trying to take care of his son. He knows this is awkward for Nick… Dad wants so much to connect. He doesn’t know what else to do.”

 

[Betty P]

May I ask for link? Thank you.

Perhaps it would help to create an “official” timeline for this case with links to WS approved sources.

Timelines often help, though it’s unlikely this murder case will become as complicated as some others.

 

[Niner]

Perhaps it would help to create an “official” timeline for this case with links to WS approved sources.

Timelines often help, though it’s unlikely this murder case will become as complicated as some others.

I have this but no WS approved sources for them. And IF something is wrong - please let me know & any additions anyone finds! TIA!

Timeline: “We don’t have that kind of specificity yet,” McDonnell said of the timeline of the couple’s deaths. “We’re waiting on the coroner to be able to try and determine as best they can at this point.”
[map Reiner's house to the Pierside & on to USC on post #935, page 47]

The Sinclair Gas station is about two miles from the hotel. And the hotel is five minutes from the metro train stop, which goes directly to the Exposition Blvd. stop where Nick was apprehended by cops.
Prosecutors have alleged N Reiner stabbed his parents in "approximately the early morning hours" on Sunday, according to a news release. But a specific time has not been disclosed.

12/13/25 Saturday night: One source told the Daily Mail that Rob & Michele ate at the Amici restaurant Friday [could be Saturday], the night before they attended a holiday party at Conan O'Brien's house with their son.

12/13/25 Saturday, early evening: Rob & Michele & Nick attend Conen O'Brien's holiday party. No time on when they left.

12/13/25 Saturday: Just before midnight – Security cameras show Nick leaving Reiner’s house.

12/13/25 Saturday @ 12:16am: Nick [carrying black backpack] walking across a Sinclair gas station forecourt. John Fawcett, the owner of the nearby Sinclair gas station, has described seeing Nick walking across the forecourt late on Saturday night -CCTV footage from late Saturday night Fawcett described how Nick walked westbound along San Vicente Avenue before cutting through his station. He then crossed the street before pausing outside a consignment store called The RealReal & then heading up the sidewalk.

12/14/25 Sunday @ 4am: Reportedly, NR checked into room 207 at The Pierside Hotel in Santa Monica around 4am on Sunday, 12/14/25.

12/14/25 Sunday @ 2pm: Masseuse arrives-no one answers door.

12/14/25 Sunday @ 3pm: Romy finds her parents dead.

12/14/25 Sunday @ 3:30pm: Emergency services called to home.

12/14/25 Sunday @ 3:40pm: The couple was found dead around 3:40pm on Sunday, 12/14/25.

12/14/25 Sunday @ 8:20pm: Nick buys a drink [Gatorade] at Arco gas station. Early Sunday morning captured on CCTV Reiner has a red backpack slung over his shoulder & is wearing a black & green jacket with white stripes & a dark baseball cap, calmly strolled by the service station just half a mile from his parents' home.

12/14/25 Sunday @ 9:15pm: Reiner was taken into custody [at the *Expo/Vermont Metro station in Exposition Park] around 9:15pm, Sunday, 12/14/25.

12/15/25 Monday @ ~1am: An LAPD detective showed up at the Pierside Santa Monica hotel. the detective told the front desk clerk he was looking for a guest named Nick Reiner. The detective told the clerk he was there for a "welfare check." But he also told the clerk he was concerned Reiner "disposed of a weapon & used the room to clean & dispose of evidence in a violent crime." The clerk accompanied the detective to room 207, but it had been cleaned hours before by a hotel housekeeper, who, we're told, found blood in the shower & on the bed sheets.

12/15/25 Monday @ 5:04am: booked on suspicion of 2 counts of murder at 5:04am, Monday, 12/15/25

 

[ilovewings]

I have only seen one article about Rob using a bearhug to subdue Nick. Nick was 11 years old.

Today, Nick is 6'3" and 230 pounds. Bear hug would not subdue him.

“I was over there, it must have been early 2000s because he was about 11, and he was throwing the biggest tantrum, and [Rob] Reiner just had him in a bear hug to restrain him,” he continued."

Nick Reiner threw ‘terrifying’ tantrums even as a kid: ‘So much anger in his eyes’

"He had so much anger in his eyes. It was terrifying really."

www.aol.com

This makes me think Nick is a "bad seed"------

 

[AuDHD]

Huffpost does make that claim about a conservatorship, but the linked LA Times article in the Huffpost article does not mention a conservatorship.

Perhaps the article was updated to remove a reference to a conservatorship:

Nick Reiner struggled with addiction and shared his recovery with the world. Now, he's accused of killing parents

On Monday, Nick Reiner was booked into the L.A. County jail on suspicion of murder, hours after his parents Rob and Michele Reiner were found dead inside their Brentwood home.

www.latimes.com

that section was removed from the LA Times article. We hashed it out far up thread.

 

[AuDHD]

what’s odd is it looks like that is the same article that huff post sent me to and it looks like that paragraph has been removed. However, the LA times had been quoted by other sources before that point.

There are blog type outlets that just regurgitate MSM articles verbatim in their entirety. So, when I search for the exact phrasing that’s quoted in post 310, from the LA Times article cited, i see other “articles” that are literally just that OG LA times article reposted but with that quote included. here’s an example. I tried the way back machine thing, but it didn’t have screen grabs going back too far, just one from 17:10 yesterday.

So, that’s my guess : that particular statement “One law enforcement source said that conservatorship arrangements were in the works for Nick at the time of the deaths. In interviews, Nick praised his parents for helping him find sobriety but also said he was trying to forge his own life.” originally appeared as its own little blurb, just after the paragraph that begins “They did everything for Nick” and subsequently has been removed, for whatever reason.

jmo

here’s post 410 from when we looked into it

 

[otto]

that section was removed from the LA Times article. We hashed it out far up thread.

I just searched the article using the Wayback Machine, which captures a duplicate of the original article on the day it was first published. I still don't see the word "conservatorship".

 

[AuDHD]

I just searched the article using the Wayback Machine, which captures a duplicate of the original article on the day it was first published. I still don't see the word "conservatorship".

as I said in the above post, I also used the Wayback machine, but there was only one screen grab of it that day, and it was pretty long after it was posted. i’m of the mind that all of these sources quoting the LA times coupled with the blog posts that I found that are simply regurgitating The LA times article verbatim but with that quote included. (Those usually pop up right after the article comes out, it’s like automatic. copy, paste, post).

Given that , I think it’s reasonable to conclude that the quote was there originally. jmo

 

[otto]

as I said in the above post, I also use the Wayback machine, but there was only one screen grab of it that day, and it was pretty long after it was posted. i’m of the mind that all of these sources quoting the LA times coupled with the blog posts that I found that I are simply regurgitating The article of verbatim with that quote included. Those usually pop out right after the article comes out, it’s like automatic. copy, paste, post.

So, I think it’s reasonable to conclude that the quote was there originally. jmo

Thank you! ... and yes, I see the discussion in comment 410, and that I followed your same path looking for the original quote.

It looks like a rumour that grew legs. Someone quoted the LA Times as mentioning "conservatorship", then many other outlets repeated that claim, always referencing the same article, but there are no LA Times articles about the murders with the word "conservatorship".

The original article was published at Dec. 15, 2025 7:51 AM, and the wayback machine copy was taken at 5 PM the same day. The article does not state that it was updated.

Since the word has vanished and there is no record of it, I'm inclined to believe that it is nothing more than a rumour.

 

[AuDHD]

Thank you! ... and yes, I see the discussion in comment 410, and that I followed your same path looking for the original quote.

It looks like a rumour that grew legs. Someone quoted the LA Times as mentioning "conservatorship", then many other outlets repeated that claim, always referencing the same article, but there are no LA Times articles about the murders with the word "conservatorship".

The original article was published at Dec. 15, 2025 7:51 AM, and the wayback machine copy was taken at 5 PM the same day. The article does not state that it was updated.

Since the word has vanished and there is no record of it, I'm inclined to believe that it is nothing more than a rumour.

exactly- it all comes to the same thing, like you said, which is its a rumor.

 

[SaraSmile]

Autism is one of many neurodevelopmental disorders and agitation is a common symptom, so your neighbor doesn't surprise me. We don't know if NR had any type of neurodevelopmental disorder though.

As for personality disorders, those, by diagnostic criteria, are not present/diagnosed until a person is over the age of 18 (and for myself and many of my colleagues, we are very careful about diagnosing until after early 20s), so that wouldn't explain childhood tantrums. That's because a child's personality isn't formed until their brain is closer to full development (age 25).

In childhood, tantrums or symptoms of "personality disorders" are either the result of neurodevelopmental disorders (like autism, intellectual disabilities, cerebral palsy, ADHD, etc), or other types of dysregulation/impulsivity disorders, or a response to their environment (such as trauma or neglect), or any combination of the three. But a child won't have a personality disorder. The only caveat to this is children who exhibit signs of conduct disorder (which I'm not aware of NR exhibiting) as that leaves them vulnerable to antisocial personality disorder. We still wouldn't know until the age of 18, but we might see signs of it earlier in childhood if they have conduct disorder. But again, we don't know anything that makes us think NR had conduct disorder.

As to brain scans, this is a somewhat controversial area of research still. Social media (and pop psychologists like Dr. Phil) try to make it seem like more than it actually is. The truth is, there's no significant reliability of brain scans YET that could adequately see or predict what we're talking about here. There's a lot of research being done and certainly there are scans that show damage to specific areas of the brain, but those macro brain structures do a lot of things. We haven't yet reached the amount of specificity needed to see/correlate changes in the limbic system with aggression, impulsivity, and anger with any kind of reliability. If we had, then we'd be scanning all criminals before parole to give us hints into post-prison treatment and recidivism.

Thank you, whole post is very interesting.

If he cut his hand during the murder, enough to leave blood all over the hotel room, then he did not forget what he did. His wounded bleeding hand was a constant reminder. It weakens any argument about being in a fugue state where he was oblivious of his actions.

If he was oblivious, and suddenly discovered a deep cut on his hand that needed stitches, he would have gone to hospital to look after his hand. If he cut his hand, then not seeking medical attention is consciousness of guilt.

I doubt he would go to emergency for a hand cut, unless it wouldn’t stop bleeding, just brings attention. Nurse probably would ask, “how did this happen”?

Think of crime rings nursing each others’ wounds, they don’t go to Dr to get sewn.

Cut was probably not that bad, I still don’t believe reports of blood all over the hotel room. Since the maid cleaned up the room as usual. It was only the next day when investigators came, the maid said yes, there was some blood.

Good point, it does seem like consciousness of guilt! Nick kept moving, trying to distance himself from crime. Agreed!

 

[MistyWaters]

<snipped>

Nick Reiner struggled with addiction and shared his recovery with the world. Now, he's accused of killing parents

On Monday, Nick Reiner was booked into the L.A. County jail on suspicion of murder, hours after his parents Rob and Michele Reiner were found dead inside their Brentwood home.

www.latimes.com

“One law enforcement source said that conservatorship arrangements were in the works for Nick at the time of the deaths.”

The LATimes have removed that sentence but the quote was there Dec 15th when I posted it on this thread. No explanation why it was removed but I can’t help but wonder if it was intended to be confidential info pertaining to the motive.

 

[SaraSmile]

Here's What To Know About Nick Reiner

Nick Reiner is accused of killing his parents, director and actor Rob Reiner, and film producer Michele Singer Reiner.

www.huffpost.com

“The Los Angeles Times reported that a law enforcement source said the parents of Reiner were looking into a conservatorship over him.”

Thanks, I wanted to know more about conservatorship. I hope Reiners did not lock it in before murders.

 

[MistyWaters]

Thanks, I wanted to know more about conservatorship. I hope Reiners did not lock it in before murders.

If it’s true, conservatorship would be quite a severe action indicating a drastic change from enabling Nick.

 

[Sadi]

If it’s true, conservatorship would be quite a severe action indicating a drastic change from enabling Nick.

If it’s true and Nick found out about it, I would bet it set him off.

 

[SaraSmile]

If it’s true and Nick found out about it, I would bet it set him off.

Ok, I didn’t understand the impact on Nick, when I first thought of conservatorship. I’m not real familiar with how these work.

I thought conservatorship was still a Rich kid being taken care of for life, still enabled.
Poor people would not have that safety net.

I’m getting what you are saying now.
My take, Nick did find out, maybe Nick was ungrateful, did not want to be controlled that way.

Re a proposed conservatorship, maybe it was designated, he had to stay at a facility, continue treatment, no credit cards, no funds at all. Still a safety net in my book.

I realize the family is still trying to “ help” him, hired AJ.
I prefer he doesn’t have any money designated to him, and that he is put away in State prison LWOP.