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By NG do you mean NR?
Oh yes, thank you. I’ll correct it.
By NG do you mean NR?
I would love know why he was smirking.A psychiatrist could tell if he's malingering.
A psychiatrist could tell if he's malingering.
Thanks for the article to clear that up. So Schizoaffective is much worse than just Schizophrenia. It's like adding on Bi-Polar to it as well...I remember an anti-drug public service announcement on TV from awhile back. It showed a frying pan on a stove with a fried egg crackling, popping and shrinking as it cooked. The announcer said: “this is your brain on drugs”. Meaning, fried.
IMO that’s a large part of NR’s issues/problems. His brain is fried from using drugs for so many years, which may be the cause of, or at least contributed to his MH illness, whichever he has. I’ve read reports he has schizophrenia, and other reports say he has schizoaffective disorder. I’ll wait to hear what his official diagnosis(s) is/are by a MH professional during judicial proceedings. Mental illness doesn’t equal criminality. IMO majority of those with MI are victims of crime vs. perpetrators.
There is clearly something ethically and morally wrong with perpetrators of cold blooded murder. Whether they have MI, or not. I personally think NR made a choice/knew and understood what he was doing. Booked a hotel, fled the scene, washed blood off, changed clothes, etc.
To be clear, I’m not saying his brain being fried from drugs or whatever MH illness he has excuses or justifies him slaughtering his parents.
NR seemingly has no remorse, guilt, or shame over his vile, heinous actions. And I hope he does decide to plead NG, go on trial, and found Guilty of M1 x 2, and then hopefully locked away in prison for the rest of his natural life with no chance at parole. Because, and not least of which, he may very well go after his siblings for revenge if reports are true they’re not supporting him anymore or paying for his defense.
His siblings are probably afraid of NR, might be thinking something to the effect ‘If he could kill my parents with such blatant disregard for their lives with no remorse, what’s to stop him from killing me if he ever gets released back into society’.
I don’t blame NR’s siblings one bit if they feel that way, imo it would be 100% valid/justified.
I can’t imagine what NR’s poor siblings’ are going through. My heart breaks for them. I’m glad they have each other for support while they grieve their parents and everything their brother took from them. Heartbreaking.
Link below r/t schizophrenia and schizoaffective disorder for those interested:
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Schizophrenia vs. Schizoaffective Disorder
If you or someone you know has been diagnosed or shows signs of a mental health disorder, it can be hard to understand what it all means. Here’s what characterizes schizophrenia and schizoaffective disorder, and how to help.health.clevelandclinic.org
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I agree…..TMZ is really playing it up because they have their special airing tonight.Yes or perhaps it’s just that these reports from ‘sources’ are getting more ridiculous with each passing day.
I don't believe it at all. About the conspiracy, etc.Yes or perhaps it’s just that these reports from ‘sources’ are getting more ridiculous with each passing day.
“Nick Reiner knows he killed his parents, Rob and Michele Reiner, but he doesn't understand why he's in jail ... sources with direct knowledge tell TMZ……….Our sources say Nick is delusional and believes the people who put him behind bars are engaged in a "conspiracy" against him.”![]()
Nick Reiner Believes He's the Victim of a Conspiracy After Parents' Murder
Nick Reiner knows he killed his parents, Rob and Michele Reiner, but he doesn't understand why he's in jail ... sources with direct knowledge tell TMZ.www.tmz.com
My own perception of the Reiner parents has evolved.I don't know what "parental mistakes" the Reiners may have made, other than some here who say they would have done things differently than the Reiners and think that NR would have turned out differently. All that is just a matter of opinion.
BBM if he is in psychosis he may be delusional. Psychosis can be anything from seeing hearing things that are not there to having bizarre beliefs that are not based in reality. Such as his parents were replaced by aliens or demons who meant him harm.Yes or perhaps it’s just that these reports from ‘sources’ are getting more ridiculous with each passing day.
“Nick Reiner knows he killed his parents, Rob and Michele Reiner, but he doesn't understand why he's in jail ... sources with direct knowledge tell TMZ……….Our sources say Nick is delusional and believes the people who put him behind bars are engaged in a "conspiracy" against him.”![]()
Nick Reiner Believes He's the Victim of a Conspiracy After Parents' Murder
Nick Reiner knows he killed his parents, Rob and Michele Reiner, but he doesn't understand why he's in jail ... sources with direct knowledge tell TMZ.www.tmz.com
I'd like to hear a tape of his conversations with other inmates.BBM if he is in psychosis he may be delusional. Psychosis can be anything from seeing hearing things that are not there to having bizarre beliefs that are not based in reality. Such as his parents were replaced by aliens or demons who meant him harm.
I look forward to getting more facts and not having to rely on all these conflicting "inside" sources.
BBM if he is in psychosis he may be delusional. Psychosis can be anything from seeing hearing things that are not there to having bizarre beliefs that are not based in reality. Such as his parents were replaced by aliens or demons who meant him harm.
I look forward to getting more facts and not having to rely on all these conflicting "inside" sources.
What a jerk. He learned before about 6 how to rule the roost.Me, I’m not buying it. He’s an expert at manipulation. If he doesn’t know why he’s locked up there’s no reason he wouldn’t have called 911 from the Reiner residence to report his parents deaths.
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Nick Reiner Says He Threw Rock Through Window to Appear Insane in Resurfaced Interview
Nick Reiner is expected to claim insanity in his parents' murder case ... and we have a resurfaced interview where he admitted to using the same tactic in the past as a ploy to get drugs.www.tmz.com
BBMAccording to Harvey Levin's sources, he was diagnosed with schizoaffective disorder in 2020 and was treated with antipsychotics until a month before the crime (7:44 mark below).
This needs to be understood in the context of a defense strategy, which would have involved attributing NR's actions to a change in medication IMHO. The sources reportedly told TMZ that the reasons for that very recent change are "shocking". The family feels he was failed by the system.
However, he would have been 26-27 and a long time drug addict at the time of this diagnosis, which substantially muddies the waters.
We really don't know enough to conclude either way. I personnally find myself sometimes thinking one way - severe mental illness, NGRI - and sometimes another - acting out after some kind of humiliating event ("this is a private conversation" and whatever may have stemmed from that).
I'd like to hear a tape of his conversations with other inmates.
Oh thanks, I hadn't heard that. Do you think family can visit? I'm curious about that blurb about conspiracies, etc. A j never would have spread that around, even if true. I doubt family either. I don't think he's really saying that, just sounds too bizarre.IIRC he’s being kept in isolation.
Yes or perhaps it’s just that these reports from ‘sources’ are getting more ridiculous with each passing day.
Agree, I don't believe any of them. So far, I really only believe the quote that appeared in People magazine and one other news source wherein the surviving family members said they put their faith in the justice system. Regardless of how horrible the crime is, every defendant has a right to a fair trial, etc, etc...
The public defender has taken over the case and is becoming familiar with the details. The next hearing will be in a couple of weeks, right?
I don’t think he’s allowed visitors according to this article, if accurate.Oh thanks, I hadn't heard that. Do you think family can visit? I'm curious about that blurb about conspiracies, etc. A j never would have spread that around, even if true. I doubt family either. I don't think he's really saying that, just sounds too bizarre.