CA - Murder victims Identified as Rob Reiner and wife Michele - LA Dec 14 2025

[Cedars]

Our sources say Nick is delusional and believes the people who put him behind bars are engaged in a "conspiracy" against him.”

Well, it worked for OJ...

Also, his (co-inheriting) siblings telling the world that he did it and should be permanently locked up in a mental institution, and hiring a lawyer to make sure that happens , is part of a typical plot of a Hollywood thriller, where the hero battles numerous evil forces aligned against him.

Really, when it comes to Hollywood, what is true and what is fiction doesn't matter... it's all entertainment.

JMO

 

[LadyL]

I would love know why he was smirking.

when and where? pic? source?

Yes or perhaps it’s just that these reports from ‘sources’ are getting more ridiculous with each passing day.

Nick Reiner Believes He's the Victim of a Conspiracy After Parents' Murder

Nick Reiner knows he killed his parents, Rob and Michele Reiner, but he doesn't understand why he's in jail ... sources with direct knowledge tell TMZ.

www.tmz.com

“Nick Reiner knows he killed his parents, Rob and Michele Reiner, but he doesn't understand why he's in jail ... sources with direct knowledge tell TMZ……….Our sources say Nick is delusional and believes the people who put him behind bars are engaged in a "conspiracy" against him.”

Me, I’m not buying it. He’s an expert at manipulation. If he doesn’t know why he’s locked up there’s no reason he wouldn’t have called 911 from the Reiner residence to report his parents deaths.
JMO

Nick Reiner Says He Threw Rock Through Window to Appear Insane in Resurfaced Interview

Nick Reiner is expected to claim insanity in his parents' murder case ... and we have a resurfaced interview where he admitted to using the same tactic in the past as a ploy to get drugs.

www.tmz.com

so in the top post you seem to say TMZ's reports are ridiculous but in the bottom post, you rely on their story to confirm what you believe, that he's manipulative ...

if he's delusional, he may think he was supposed to kill them and that's why he doesn't understand why he's in jail - he can be manipulative and mentally ill and delusional IMO

 

[MistyWaters]

when and where? pic? source?





so in the top post you seem to say TMZ's reports are ridiculous but in the bottom post, you rely on their story to confirm what you believe, that he's manipulative ...

if he's delusional, he may think he was supposed to kill them and that's why he doesn't understand why he's in jail - he can be manipulative and mentally ill and delusional IMO

The bottom link pertained to comments NR made in 2015, bragging how he obtained Wellbutrin by acting crazy. The connection is an example of manipulation.

If you believe TMZ’s story that he believes he’s a victim of a conspiracy, it’s okay, that’s your opinion. I’m just not buying it, especially not knowing the source.

There’s little doubt over whether NR is mentally ill. The unknown question is does it qualify for a legal insanity defence?

 

[Niner]

They finally have the next hearing date posted.

Future Proceedings
Date Time Type Result Location Department
02/23/2026 08:30AM Arraignment and Plea
Clara Shortridge Foltz Criminal Justice Center Dept. - 30

Past Proceedings
Date Time Type Result Location Department
01/07/2026 08:30AM Arraignment and Plea
Held - Proceedings Clara Shortridge Foltz Criminal Justice Center Dept. - 30

And I looked up this one - they still have Jackson as his attorney plus 2 others - ?? Maybe only the first one listed counts - Greene.

Parties:
Name & Party Type
Nick Reiner, Defendant
Kimberly Lyn Greene
Attorney for Nick Reiner
Deputy Public Defender

Caleb Edward Mason
Attorney for Nick Reiner
Private Counsel

Jacqueline Sparagna
Attorney for Nick Reiner
Private Counsel

Alan Jay Jackson
Attorney for Nick Reiner
Private Counsel



link: LA Court

 

[MerlinFalcon]

They finally have the next hearing date posted.

Future Proceedings
Date Time Type Result Location Department
02/23/2026 08:30AM Arraignment and Plea
Clara Shortridge Foltz Criminal Justice Center Dept. - 30

Past Proceedings
Date Time Type Result Location Department
01/07/2026 08:30AM Arraignment and Plea
Held - Proceedings Clara Shortridge Foltz Criminal Justice Center Dept. - 30

And I looked up this one - they still have Jackson as his attorney plus 2 others - ?? Maybe only the first one listed counts - Greene.

Parties:
Name & Party Type
Nick Reiner, Defendant
Kimberly Lyn Greene
Attorney for Nick Reiner
Deputy Public Defender

Caleb Edward Mason
Attorney for Nick Reiner
Private Counsel

Jacqueline Sparagna
Attorney for Nick Reiner
Private Counsel

Alan Jay Jackson
Attorney for Nick Reiner
Private Counsel



link: LA Court

Caleb works with AJ. I wonder if it’s mistake.

 

[BUF]

Seems a bit soon for a documentary when we still know so little about that night, what triggered NR's actions and his actual mental health status but okay TMZ, capitalize on this tragedy, strike while the iron is hot I suppose. JMO

The timing of this TMZ episode was certainly suspicious, right after AJ withdrew from the case. Harvey Levin really pushed this prior to its airing….was that to try to ease AJ’s withdrawing?

Also, AJ said he got a call in the early morning hours of Dec 15 while in NY…. so who called him? Was it someone who alerted AJ of the murders and then AJ took it upon himself to meet with Nick?

Or was it a family member, friend, another attorney, or even Nick?

I’d really like to know how AJ got involved to begin with.

 

[Dotta]

"Nick was placed on meds that stabilized his condition,
until a month before the murders.

We're told he had complained to his doctors about his weight gain
-- a common side effect from the meds --
and doctors accommodated him by changing the meds that had been keeping him stable."

Nick Reiner's Fatal Spiral Connected to Weight Gain

Nick Reiner's unravelling that resulted in the murders of his parents, Rob and Michelle Reiner, is directly connected to his weight gain ... sources with direct knowledge tell TMZ.

www.tmz.com

 

[SaraSmile]

BBM

If he has truly been diagnosed with schizophrenia or schizoaffective disorder and recently stopped taking antipsychotics, his “increasingly erratic behavior” should come as no surprise. And no responsible medical professional would advise a patient with such a diagnosis to cease taking them. It’s possible that NR simply decided to stop taking the antipsychotic medication on his own, but it would be a gross misrepresentation to describe his own noncompliance as a “recent change in his medication” — even if it were still technically true.

My understanding, when changing strong psych meds, usually the Psychiatrist titrates down on the original med (gradually going down on milligrams, lowering the dose of pills). Meanwhile, During this “Exact Same Time Period”, titrating up on the new med, gradually increasing med. Usually, the meds are similar enough, so this works ok. This way, there is no lapse of important psych medication.

I doubt a credible Psych Dr would completely remove meds, before starting new meds, unless the meds are incompatible in some way. Because of Hippa, we don’t have many details about this medication change.

My own take, his crisis was accelerated by “street drugs”( maybe meth), while adjusting psych meds( a period of instability).

MOO

 

[Betty P]

They finally have the next hearing date posted.

Future Proceedings
Date Time Type Result Location Department
02/23/2026 08:30AM Arraignment and Plea
Clara Shortridge Foltz Criminal Justice Center Dept. - 30

Past Proceedings
Date Time Type Result Location Department
01/07/2026 08:30AM Arraignment and Plea
Held - Proceedings Clara Shortridge Foltz Criminal Justice Center Dept. - 30

And I looked up this one - they still have Jackson as his attorney plus 2 others - ?? Maybe only the first one listed counts - Greene.

Parties:
Name & Party Type
Nick Reiner, Defendant
Kimberly Lyn Greene
Attorney for Nick Reiner
Deputy Public Defender

Caleb Edward Mason
Attorney for Nick Reiner
Private Counsel

Jacqueline Sparagna
Attorney for Nick Reiner
Private Counsel

Alan Jay Jackson
Attorney for Nick Reiner
Private Counsel



link: LA Court

Thanks, Niner! I hope you didn't have to pay for anything.

In murder cases subject to the death penalty, its typical to see a team of 2 or 3 public defenders. It's been the case in Ohio for the Wagner family members who murdered the Rhoden family and Hanna Gilley. These days, with so much digital, GPS, phone and similar records, the discovery is voluminous. Add in expert and other witnesses and its easy to see how defense needs a team.

If those other attorneys are from his previous AJ team, hopefully the state will cover the cost of another public defender or two for the new team.

 

[MistyWaters]

"Nick was placed on meds that stabilized his condition,
until a month before the murders.

We're told he had complained to his doctors about his weight gain
-- a common side effect from the meds --
and doctors accommodated him by changing the meds that had been keeping him stable."

Nick Reiner's Fatal Spiral Connected to Weight Gain

Nick Reiner's unravelling that resulted in the murders of his parents, Rob and Michelle Reiner, is directly connected to his weight gain ... sources with direct knowledge tell TMZ.

www.tmz.com

They didn’t know what to do? We are to believe that R and M invited an ‘erratic, dangerous’ son to live in their guest house plus take him along to A-list Xmas parties yet reaching out to the prescribing psychiatrist didn’t once cross their mind? Typical of tabloid reporting

From your link:
“We're told the new meds sent Nick into an erratic, dangerous state ... that escalated as the days went on. We're told Rob and Michele were well aware of the alarming changes in their son, but didn't know what to do.”

 

[Niner]

Thanks, Niner! I hope you didn't have to pay for anything.

Nope - no pay for this. It was in one of tabs "Parties". I just went into to see the public defender's full name & saw the others in there.

 

[Dotta]

They didn’t know what to do? We are to believe that R and M invited an ‘erratic, dangerous’ son to live in their guest house plus take him along to A-list Xmas parties yet reaching out to the prescribing psychiatrist didn’t once cross their mind? Typical of tabloid reporting

From your link:
“We're told the new meds sent Nick into an erratic, dangerous state ... that escalated as the days went on. We're told Rob and Michele were well aware of the alarming changes in their son, but didn't know what to do.”

I guess trial will clear these matters.
No need to get agitated.
Link is a link.

 

[Marysmith]

They didn’t know what to do? We are to believe that R and M invited an ‘erratic, dangerous’ son to live in their guest house plus take him along to A-list Xmas parties yet reaching out to the prescribing psychiatrist didn’t once cross their mind? Typical of tabloid reporting

From your link:
“We're told the new meds sent Nick into an erratic, dangerous state ... that escalated as the days went on. We're told Rob and Michele were well aware of the alarming changes in their son, but didn't know what to do.”

There is sooo much victim blaming and speculation here. (Not you @MistyWaters, just on the thread in general.) The truth is Nick Reiner's family tried their very best and did so much for him. It's absolutely brutal what happened but we may never know the truth of what actual diagnoses and treatments he had - and what street drugs he took or was taking did to him. There may never be a trial.

 

[MistyWaters]

There is sooo much victim blaming and speculation here. (Not you @MistyWaters, just on the thread in general.) The truth is Nick Reiner's family tried their very best and did so much for him. It's absolutely brutal what happened but we may never know the truth of what actual diagnoses and treatments he had - and what street drugs he took or was taking did to him. There may never be a trial.

I do hope NR just decides to plead guilty, as apparently he freely admits to having murdered his parents. It would be the kindest thing to do, especially for the sake of his siblings. They don’t need to hear their parents criticized for being kind and loving. The storyline is verging toward it’s all their fault for getting murdered because they didn’t take responsibility to prevent their son from killing them. The blame falls clearly on NR.

IMO it will be a huge leap to ever convince a jury he has been entirely clean of street drugs for the last several years, especially if the location where he was arrested was a well-known drug dealer hangout. Once an addict, always an addict.
JMO

 

[MistyWaters]

I guess trial will clear these matters.
No need to get agitated.
Link is a link.

I hope family and friends ignore the headlines.

 

[Sundog]

BBM if he is in psychosis he may be delusional. Psychosis can be anything from seeing hearing things that are not there to having bizarre beliefs that are not based in reality. Such as his parents were replaced by aliens or demons who meant him harm.

I look forward to getting more facts and not having to rely on all these conflicting "inside" sources.

I agree but wonder why he would still be having these kinds of hallucinations if he is being treated/medicated while he has been incarcerated. I would think that the meds they are giving him would be working by now.

 

[SaraSmile]

"Nick was placed on meds that stabilized his condition,
until a month before the murders.

We're told he had complained to his doctors about his weight gain
-- a common side effect from the meds --
and doctors accommodated him by changing the meds that had been keeping him stable."

https://www.tmz.com/2026/01/10/nick-reiner-tmz-documentary-clip-weight-

http://

I agree but wonder why he would still be having these kinds of hallucinations if he is being treated/medicated while he has been incarcerated. I would think that the meds they are giving him would be working by now.

I think psych meds are notorious for taking a long time to “work”, needing adjustments over time. Lots of trial and error. He was clearly in a crisis for a whole month, leading up to the murders.

Plus, since Nick was near Expo Park when arrested, he was probably continuing street drugs, up until his arrest, so currently, he is still detoxing, getting used to life with only psych meds, no street drugs.

This is alot for the prison psych Drs to level out, try to get Nick stable, as a new patient.
Sometimes they give heavy tranquilizers to subdue the patient in the beginning, but that’s not a long term solution.

The report that Nick wanted to switch meds because of weight gain, is interesting. My impression, the Psych meds that cause weight gain seem to work the best for most patients, long term “success, stability”.

So maybe, he will have to get back on the protocol that worked better before, in order to get stable.

MOO

 

[MistyWaters]

Interesting, the Reiners along with Romy went on a family vacation two weeks before their deaths. Would they have gone leaving NR home if he was bouncing off overhead beams, as we’re led to believe by the tabloid, TMZ?

MSN

 

[lohrtabitha]

I do hope NR just decides to plead guilty, as apparently he freely admits to having murdered his parents. It would be the kindest thing to do, especially for the sake of his siblings. They don’t need to hear their parents criticized for being kind and loving. The storyline is verging toward it’s all their fault for getting murdered because they didn’t take responsibility to prevent their son from killing them. The blame falls clearly on NR.

IMO it will be a huge leap to ever convince a jury he has been entirely clean of street drugs for the last several years, especially if the location where he was arrested was a well-known drug dealer hangout. Once an addict, always an addict.
JMO

I wonder if there isn't a trial will his toxicology reports be shared with the public?

 

[MistyWaters]

I wonder if there isn't a trial will his toxicology reports be shared with the public?

I’m under the impression that an accused must admit the facts to establish guilt, if that’s the plea. If it comes to that, perhaps toxicology reports would be brought forth in support of his guilt?

What ever NR pleads, eventually, it will be a good indication of the known evidence.
JMO