CA - Murder victims Identified as Rob Reiner and wife Michele - LA Dec 14 2025

[SaraSmile]

Come to think of it- it IS a conflict of interest for Jackson if he had previously represented Rob. Just like Donna Adelson and Rashbaum in Florida. The judge would have ordered Jackson off the case.

Agree

 

[BUF]

AJ took a break from his media rounds about withdrawing from the Nick Reiner case and picked back up on his big buck client…who is able to pay his fees.

Nick Reiner’s hotshot ex lawyer back in court to defend ‘rich kid’ accused of mowing down 4 students

Fraser Bohm, a former Malibu star baseball player, has been charged with vehicular manslaughter and murder of four Pepperdine sorority sisters after he lost control of his BMW.

nypost.com

 

[Arkay]

AJ took a break from his media rounds about withdrawing from the Nick Reiner case and picked back up on his big buck client…who is able to pay his fees.

Nick Reiner’s hotshot ex lawyer back in court to defend ‘rich kid’ accused of mowing down 4 students

Fraser Bohm, a former Malibu star baseball player, has been charged with vehicular manslaughter and murder of four Pepperdine sorority sisters after he lost control of his BMW.

nypost.com

It sure seems like he couldn’t get out of there fast enough.

JMO

 

[MistyWaters]

This is paylocked and I don’t quite get why a conservatorship would only be temporary. But it’s good to see more recent information about the life of NR coming out, and knowing he indeed grew beyond a teenager.

Nick Reiner Was in a Mental Health Conservatorship in 2020

Mr. Reiner, who is accused of killing his parents, was under a yearlong legal arrangement that allows for involuntary psychiatric treatment.

www.nytimes.com

Nick Reiner Was in a Mental Health Conservatorship in 2020​

Mr. Reiner, who is accused of killing his parents, was under a yearlong legal arrangement that allows for involuntary psychiatric treatment.

 

[Dotta]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2011899741789974593

 

[tlcya]

Family sources told The New York Times that Nick was taken back out of the conservatorship - which severely restricts the affected person's freedom and independence - in 2021.
[snip]
He was put under a Lanterman-Petris-Short Act (L.P.S.) conservatorship, a process brought forward by a 1967 law that establishes involuntary psychiatric treatment in California.
[snip]
L.P.S. conservatorships are initiated by a doctor and typically originates from an involuntary psychiatric hospitalization. Steven Baer, a licensed fiduciary, was appointed as his conservator.
[snip]
That specific conservatorship lasts one year. Afterward, the conservator can renew it if they wish to do so. It is unclear why Reiner's did not last more than a year.
Nick Reiner went off rails before parents' murders 'after meds change'

 

[MistyWaters]

Family sources told The New York Times that Nick was taken back out of the conservatorship - which severely restricts the affected person's freedom and independence - in 2021.
[snip]
He was put under a Lanterman-Petris-Short Act (L.P.S.) conservatorship, a process brought forward by a 1967 law that establishes involuntary psychiatric treatment in California.
[snip]
L.P.S. conservatorships are initiated by a doctor and typically originates from an involuntary psychiatric hospitalization. Steven Baer, a licensed fiduciary, was appointed as his conservator.
[snip]
That specific conservatorship lasts one year. Afterward, the conservator can renew it if they wish to do so. It is unclear why Reiner's did not last more than a year.
Nick Reiner went off rails before parents' murders 'after meds change'

If the Reiners has been through this process already, I don’t understand why several news reports made it seem they were very concerned about NRs recent behaviour but were at a loss in knowing what to do. Especially if medications were an issue. It’s as if some big piece of critical information is either wrong or missing.

Take away the changing medication piece and replace it with a volatile temper is a common situation involving violence/murder.

JMO

 

[Chimera]

If the public defender is going to zero in on the recent schizophrenic med changes that seemingly cause Nick to flip out or whatever; I keep thinking if NR was also continuing to abuse street drugs -- that could mean the efficacy of such meds wouldn't have worked properly anyway ?

NR was a sick man but ultimately did this to himself, he has no one else to blame.
Not going to put blame on the parents, Rob and Michele as I think out of love they continued to give him chances.
If NR refused, having him committed wouldn't have been an option.

His actions after the murder still make be believe he was in his right mind just enough to understand that what he did was wrong !
We still don't know where & how he concealed the murder weapon.

From initial reports it was assumed he showered/cleaned up evidence at the hotel (blood was mentioned); but what if he did it at his parent's house ?
And made himself a snack afterwards ?
Also wondering about his phone records and if he called someone after the murders and acted like everything was normal and fine.
That may aid the prosecution as to his mental state and capabilities.
Thinking out loud.

This is like layer upon layer of insults to the ones who loved him most and never gave up on him.
Some parents/family wouldn't have allowed him to stay at all, after he'd trashed the guesthouse.
And didn't that happen before the meds were changed ?

Imo -- he was violent before the schizophrenic meds , and the murders were not solely the result of the doctors' prescriptions.
And again if he was indulging in other drugs it can't be proved that a recent med changed made him commit the murders.
Jmo.

 

[BUF]

Just a guess, but this may be a reason the conservatorship only went from 2020-2021….

The conservator can give consent to mental health treatment, even if the conservatee objects. S/he can legally agree to the use of psychotropic (mind-altering) drugs (but the conservatee may physically refuse to take them).

LPS (Mental Health) Conservatorship | Superior Court of California | County of Santa Clara

Did this happen when he was living on the streets?,,,,,

The Court will not let you establish an LPS conservatorship unless it finds beyond a reasonable doubt, that the mentally ill person, is gravely disabled. Gravely disabled means that, because of a mental disorder, the person cannot take care of his/her basic, personal needs for food, clothing, or shelter.

 

[Arkay]

What I take away from this news about the temporary conservatorship is that Rob and Michele really tried EVERYTHING to get help for Nick.

I’m sure they were living at their wit’s end for years and years. I think they also deeply loved their troubled son and were destroyed watching him suffer.

Too late now but I wish he’d been under the conservatorship for much longer. Maybe he complained about being there and they capitulated because they wanted him to be happy. Or maybe he did seem to have improved enough to be released from it.

All too heartbreaking.

JMO

 

[Jade]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2011899741789974593

The article has segments with information attributed to the article in the New York Times.

Since I don’t have a subscription to NYT it was a helpful link for nosy me.

There was new to me info.

All imo

 

[lohrtabitha]

If the public defender is going to zero in on the recent schizophrenic med changes that seemingly cause Nick to flip out or whatever; I keep thinking if NR was also continuing to abuse street drugs -- that could mean the efficacy of such meds wouldn't have worked properly anyway ?

NR was a sick man but ultimately did this to himself, he has no one else to blame.
Not going to put blame on the parents, Rob and Michele as I think out of love they continued to give him chances.
If NR refused, having him committed wouldn't have been an option.

His actions after the murder still make be believe he was in his right mind just enough to understand that what he did was wrong !
We still don't know where & how he concealed the murder weapon.

From initial reports it was assumed he showered/cleaned up evidence at the hotel (blood was mentioned); but what if he did it at his parent's house ?
And made himself a snack afterwards ?
Also wondering about his phone records and if he called someone after the murders and acted like everything was normal and fine.
That may aid the prosecution as to his mental state and capabilities.
Thinking out loud.

This is like layer upon layer of insults to the ones who loved him most and never gave up on him.
Some parents/family wouldn't have allowed him to stay at all, after he'd trashed the guesthouse.
And didn't that happen before the meds were changed ?

Imo -- he was violent before the schizophrenic meds , and the murders were not solely the result of the doctors' prescriptions.
And again if he was indulging in other drugs it can't be proved that a recent med changed made him commit the murders.
Jmo.

I agree with much of your saying but I think it is going to be really hard to prove that before or after the murders that he was in the right frame of mind. People in psychosis can mask their symptoms to appear normal. Serial killer Herbert Mullin did so. Herbert Mullin, the Serial Killer Who Thought He Was Savi...
It is my belief that NR is seriously mentally ill. And having being diagnosed with schizophrenic affective disorder, it is possibly the worst mental illness you could have. It can be treated but never cured.

 

[Dotta]

I agree with much of your saying but I think it is going to be really hard to prove that before or after the murders that he was in the right frame of mind. People in psychosis can mask their symptoms to appear normal. Serial killer Herbert Mullin did so. Herbert Mullin, the Serial Killer Who Thought He Was Savi...
It is my belief that NR is seriously mentally ill. And having being diagnosed with schizophrenic affective disorder, it is possibly the worst mental illness you could have. It can be treated but never cured.

I agree.
As was reported NR was diagnosed with schizophrenia.
Very severe mental illness.
And it is a well known fact
that changing meds is very dangerous time
due to a high risk of serious consequences, especially a relapse of psychosis.

This is why any changes must be done cautiously under close medical supervision.

JMO

Stopping and switching antipsychotic drugs

australianprescriber.tg.org.au

 

[Sillybilly]

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