CA - Pacific Palisades - 30,000 People Ordered to Evacuate From L.A. Wildfires

[iamshadow21]

Thankyou for the update katydid23.

The smoke is always very unsettling, just keep reminding you the fire is around and you feel like you can't clear it out of your house, or open the windows. Wildfire certainly are a fact of life in California now. As they say, there is no more fire season anymore. It's always fire season.

Keep us posted.

And even a cooler, wetter year is just a breath, not a relief.

It's cool and wet here, this summer, and all I can think of is all the leaves and brush that's growing and falling and building up that will inevitably burn soon.

MOO

 

[Herat]

He made the right call.

Stuff can be replaced. People can't. And he's better off out of the city right now.

MOO

Yeah, and San Diego was a good idea. The air would be much fresher there and no smoke would be visible.

 

[dulcinea]

I have no idea.

I swear half an hour ago it looked exactly like the image I posted, you can see my time from the screen cap (it's currently a quarter to five). I went to LAFD because I thought it would be more likely to have recent accurate mapping compared to the state site.

I really thought I was doing my due diligence, I am aghast if I scared anyone, I understand the terror of fires and I would never want to give out bad information. Ever. I have lived with this crap virtually every summer of my life. I still remember the terror of '94 when my grandparents were evacuated from their home and the sky was black at midday.

It's not you! I was watching KTLA and as they were trying to show maps for evacuations, the maps were literally changing on the screen. The news anchors were not sure how to report/interpret the changes and they went to a different screenshot. I cannot imagine trying to keep the information updated. Everything is moving at ridiculous speeds.

 

[scandinavian girl]

My best friends daughter evacuated from Runyon Canyon to San Diego a few hours ago, she is sitting here in Sweden feeling totally helpless.

 

[scandinavian girl]

Yeah, and San Diego was a good idea. The air would be much fresher there and no smoke would be visible.

thank you for saying that. I will pass it on to my friend

 

[Herat]

Tell you friend the current conditions in San Diego are very good and condusive to good sleep:

Temp: 57F
Humidity: 43%
Wind speed: 3mph

 

[iamshadow21]

Watching KTLA streams and CNN today the reporters on the street were often commenting on how utterly random some of this destruction was, or how it was like a hellish game of dominoes when one house after another after another on the same street would burst into flames.

We wouldn't have this kind of effect if there was an unending supply of firefighters, full hyrants with water, and fire engines. The extent of the destruction is surely that there are just only so many homes or businesses that can be attended to at one time, and not all possible conflagrations can be promptly addressed and knocked down before the fire hits another building.

When the bushfires went through the mountain suburb my cousin lived in a few years ago, both his neighbours on either side burned to the ground. His house was still standing.

One home had burned, but there was still mostly intact laundry on the clothes line.

This was a suburb surrounded by bush, where the firefighters had said, get out, we cannot protect your homes. And most of those homes were gone.

I think it's hard to explain the chain reaction of wildfires to people who don't think about them every year. By the time a fire is breaking out on a home, visibly, a whole series of things have happened already that makes that home able to just light up like a torch. It's just the end result.

And sometimes, a building or a tree will just be spared, for no apparent reason.

MOO

 

[katydid23]

I have no idea.

I swear half an hour ago it looked exactly like the image I posted, you can see my time from the screen cap (it's currently a quarter to five). I went to LAFD because I thought it would be more likely to have recent accurate mapping compared to the state site.

I really thought I was doing my due diligence, I am aghast if I scared anyone, I understand the terror of fires and I would never want to give out bad information. Ever. I have lived with this crap virtually every summer of my life. I still remember the terror of '94 when my grandparents were evacuated from their home and the sky was black at midday.

Honestly, I think that map was accurate in ONE main way----that shows where the fires were active and where they are heading and where they are spreading.

There really is a big circle like that. The Palisades fire went all the way to the ocean,West, through Malibu.

Then the fire went both North and South, North to Zuma Beach area of Malibu and South , to Topanga canyon, and continued further South to Santa Monica.

That same fire is now partway through Santa Monica and turned Eastward up through Bel Air and into West LA.

The Eaton fire did a similar thing. It went West and into Altadena and then continued through parts of Pasadena.

The Hollywood Hills fire spread quickly and just now jumped into Studio City.


So if you made a map of where all the flames traveled, that map would be accurate. IMO


By the way---Firefighters don't believe the latest fire in Studio City was a started by embers from Hollywood Hills. They suspect it was arson.

 

[airportwoman]

Thanks for thinking of him. For the second time in two days he packed his car and left his home. This time, since it was a mandatory evacuation and the fire is very close he really packed his car up. Things that one puts in the car during this circumstance is touching. We both had tears.
He was so traumatized and scared he did not end up staying with his friend in midtown LA. He kept going…headed south to San Diego to a hotel. The prospect of being caught in a major LA evacuation made him nervous. If that fire spreads south to the highly populated areas of LA…..well I don’t blame him for heading out of town.
Prayers to all of California.

He also made a good decision, because he'll have an easier time accessing services, and the air quality will be better.

I think it was a wise decision to have the reporters wearing goggles.

 

[iamshadow21]

Honestly, I think that maps is accurate in ONE main way----that shows where the fires were active and where they are heading and where they are spreading.

There really is a big circle like that. The Palisades fire went all the way to the ocean,West, through Malibu.

Then the fire went both North and South, North to Zuma Beach area of Malibu and South , to Topanga canyon, and continued further South to Santa Monica.

That same fire is now partway through Santa Monica and turned Eastward up through Bel Air and into West LA.

The Eaton fire did a similar thing. It went West and into Altadena and then continued through parts of Pasadena.

The Hollywood Hills fire spread quickly and just now jumped into Studio City.


So if you made a map of where all the flames traveled, that map would be accurate. IMO

The fire maps we get out here differentiate... They show the hot zone that's actively on fire in red, and the burnt out area in black. It gives you a much more accurate idea of the risk and scale of the fire.

 

[scandinavian girl]

Tell you friend the current conditions in San Diego are very good and condusive to good sleep:

Temp: 57F
Humidity: 43%
Wind speed: 3mph

Thank you, very much appreciated. I knew I could count on you people here on Websleuths.

 

[angelainwi]

My best friends daughter evacuated from Runyon Canyon to San Diego a few hours ago, she is sitting here in Sweden feeling totally helpless.

So your best friend's daughter and someone's son are both riding it out in San Diego, are they both single??

 

[scandinavian girl]

So your best friend's daughter and someone's son are both riding it out in San Diego, are they both single??

I think the daughter is.

 

[angelainwi]

I think the daughter is.

Let's see if the son is....maybe we can make some good out of this very bad situation...

 

[Lilibet]

I repeat, mask up like it's early 2020, folks, if you're in LA.

This crap is nasty, and you do not want to be breathing it in.

Black Summer, we didn't see blue sky for months. My partner and I both have asthma. We were masking outside from like, September 2019 because the air was so toxic. It's not just clean woodsmoke and ash, it is chemicals, it is plastics, it is asbestos dust from destroyed older houses, it is everything made airbourne that you don't want to be breathing in. And it's not just a problem for those with health conditions. People with zero health conditions can get very sick from it.

MOO

Wildfire smoke increases tiny particles in the air known as particulate matter that can be harmful to people’s health. Children, the elderly and people with conditions such as heart and lung disease are more sensitive to the effects.

Dr. Puneet Gupta, the assistant medical director for the Los Angeles County Fire Department, said wildfire smoke is known to cause heart attacks and worsen asthma, and that burning homes can also release cyanide and carbon dioxide. He said sickened patients are showing up in emergency rooms when hospitals already are full because of flu season, and some hospitals could also face evacuations due to the fires.

Los Angeles-area wildfires: Updates from Jan. 8, 2025

AP coverage of the California wildfires on Wednesday, Jan. 8, 2025.

apnews.com

Thank you for posting this @iamshadow21 and @JennieM. We’ve experienced the same danger here in Southern Oregon. In addition to the usual wildfires in the forests, we had a fast moving wind-driven fire in 2020 that took out over 2300 structures in two small towns next to us. At least ten of my friends lost their homes. Driving through several days later seeing partially melted cars in the driveways of burned out homes was surreal and devastating. Many of the burned buildings were mobile homes. There went affordable housing. Everything ends up in the smoke. Wear protective masks.

Wind is the enemy once the fires start. We have a wind from the east similar to the Santa Ana wind in Southern California. Ours was “only” 40-45 mph in 2020, but enough to push the fire so fast that friends were running for their lives. It’s not really possible for fire fighters to control a fire like this with water. They can mitigate some damage, but the wind is in control until it dies down.

 

[nao]

Do they have control of fires yet?

 

[iamshadow21]

Another big collection of photos.

Grim shot shows extent of fires in LA

www.9news.com.au

 

[iamshadow21]

Do they have control of fires yet?

Nope, nowhere near, as far as I know.

 

[nao]

Been listening on scanners. I live in Canada west coast. Wow...can hear the stress on the scanners

 

[Knox]

Let's see if the son is....maybe we can make some good out of this very bad situation...

A story for the kids … well your Dad and I met … thanks for the moment of levity.