CA - Rebecca Nalepa - suicide or murder? #9

[HowLoveCanBe]

They never said the clothes belonged to Rebecca though.

IMO

Yes they didn't. Who's clothing is it then? Did Adam have a woman over in the guest house? Did she leave with out her clothing?

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Cynic posts concerning touch DNA on the JonBenet Ramsey section regularly. You may want to read about the number of skin cells we leave behind when we touch something or someone. Very interesting information.

I would say that they most likely did not test that area.

Wouldnt they have to test the entire area of the ropes to find Rebecca's dna only.

IMO

 

[jjenny]

Is it possible that the main house/portion of (or at least staircase, which is access to bedrooms) was still sealed off by LE during continuing investigation of son's accident, so she opted to move into one of the guest rooms?

No it's not possible because it doesn't fit with what AS said happened. It's on the first page of the autopsy report. He said he last saw her at 8 pm, she was at the main house. He retired to the guest house.

 

[jjenny]

They never said the clothes belonged to Rebecca though.

IMO

No they didn't. Did they ever ask?

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Yes they didn't. Who's clothing is it then? Did Adam have a woman over in the guest house? Did she leave with out her clothing?

I dont know. Maybe clothes were left behind by someone else that had stayed in the room in the past.

Just one glass was found with liquid in it so it sounds like he was alone.

imo

 

[Kentjbkent]

Let's say that at the last press conference they announced that they had arrested DS for hiring a hitman. And they were looking for the killer but DS was in custody. Would anyone here then be looking at this crime to see if maybe it was really a suicide, that had been staged to look like a murder, to try and free DS from being set up?

? :waitasec:

 

[HowLoveCanBe]

Well that doesn't fit with AS saying he last saw her at 8 pm, she was in the main house, and he retired to the guest house.

It seems like there are women's clothing in the second bedroom of the guest house. That's what is confusing me at the moment.

 

[HowLoveCanBe]

I dont know. Maybe clothes were left behind by someone else that had stayed in the room in the past.

Just one glass was found with liquid in it so it sounds like he was alone.

imo

There was also the mention of make-up remover. Seems odd.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

No they didn't. Did they ever ask?

I would think they ask Adam but honestly that part of the AR is confusing to me. They are talking about the guest house and then go right on to the balcony bedroom.

I wonder if they got it messed up and were describing what was found in the guest ROOM not the guest house.

IMO

 

[SunnieRN]

These house helpers were obviously an illegal alien oriental couple serving as cook, gardener, housecleaner, tantric bondage teachers and - why not - occasional hit-persons and assassins, who are now on the Medicis corporate yacht to Timbuktu along with AS......

/sarcasm off

Just a little jesting amid the misery of this all......

:floorlaugh: Thanks for the laugh, but I do seriously wonder who they were. I know they ate pictured in early video.

Wouldnt they have to test the entire area of the ropes to find Rebecca's dna only.

IMO

Very doubtful that they checked the entire rope. I have learned a lot about how/what is tested in the JonBenet forum. Most likely they tested near the rope that was next to Rebecca, where she should/would have touched it. This of course means very little.

 

[Quester]

Re: no AS DNA on the noose rope

I don't think AS would have touched the noose rope while cutting her down, thus no DNA on noose rope.

If AS jumped up on the table with kitchen knife in right hand [I'm assuming AS is right handed] and wrapped his left arm around and across RZ's trunk, then cut the noose rope with the knife, he could have never touched the rope.

If this scenario is correct, I would expect, of any place, AS' DNA could be found on her body.

 

[katydid23]

Cynic posts concerning touch DNA on the JonBenet Ramsey section regularly. You may want to read about the number of skin cells we leave behind when we touch something or someone. Very interesting information.

I would say that they most likely did not test that area.

Ok, so let's just all jump on the forensics team and say they were incompetent. Or that the detectives were on the take. And that the sheriff was corrupt. Not finding the DNA that was left from ONE touch of the rope must mean all of that. <modsnip> And it makes me sad. They are people doing their jobs and we are second guessing everything and jumping to the worst conclusions about them.

I guess I need a break.

 

[curiousjo]

AS was sleeping at the guest house. He said he last saw RN at 8 pm and she was at the main house. He retired to the guest house.

Why were woman clothing in the guesthouse if AS staying there?

 

[oceanblueeyes]

There was also the mention of make-up remover. Seems odd.

I have to go back and read that part more closely. It seemed a little confusing to me.

IMO

 

[jjenny]

Why were woman clothing in the guesthouse if AS staying there?

I would certainly like to know that.

 

[katydid23]

? :waitasec:

Just sayin...there are two ways to look at this.

 

[jjenny]

I would think they ask Adam but honestly that part of the AR is confusing to me. They are talking about the guest house and then go right on to the balcony bedroom.

I wonder if they got it messed up and were describing what was found in the guest ROOM not the guest house.

IMO

The way I read it what was in two bedrooms of the guest house is described, then they were invited upstairs of the main house.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Ok, so let's just all jump on the forensics team and say they were incompetent. Or that the detectives were on the take. And that the sheriff was corrupt. Not finding the DNA that was left from ONE touch of the rope must mean all of that. I feel like some are carrying pitchforks here for the San Diego LE. And it makes me sad. They are people doing their jobs and we are second guessing everything and jumping to the worst conclusions about them.

I guess I need a break.

I dont believe that happened for one second, katy.

7 weeks IS a long investigation. I think they did a thorough job and I didnt expect them to tell us every tiny detail in the PC either.

I just think some people are convinced that it was murder and no matter what... they are going to believe that.

IMO

 

[SunnieRN]

Ok, so let's just all jump on the forensics team and say they were incompetent. Or that the detectives were on the take. And that the sheriff was corrupt. Not finding the DNA that was left from ONE touch of the rope must mean all of that. I feel like some are carrying pitchforks here for the San Diego LE. And it makes me sad. They are people doing their jobs and we are second guessing everything and jumping to the worst conclusions about them.

I guess I need a break.

If I implied that to you, I am sorry. I just implied that LE in general does not test all areas. They test where there is most likely to be a 'hit'.

 

[stobin]

As reported on HLN this evening......in fact, if I am not mistaken, it was same ME expert (hired by Rebecca family) who was defense witness in Caylee case, who stated four bruises under scalp were a result of blunt forcde trauma

Cyril Wecht. He's found another case to attach himself to.