CA - Rebecca Nalepa - suicide or murder? #9

[Winnts]

If (and that's a big IF) this case is reopened, how much you want to bet evidence goes missing or was destroyed. They've already rushed and painted over the door.

 

[sorrell skye]

Rebecca's sister has stated that Rebecca believed that suicide would condemn her to Hell.

I wonder how her sister knows Rebecca believed this? I wonder if the topic of suicide had come up @ some point in the past (and if so, in what context - was it a discussion about the topic in general, or was it perhaps a more personal discussion)?

I'm still very skeptical Rebecca's death was suicide - mainly because of the four injuries to her head (but also because of several other factors).

Nevertheless, I'm curious as to why Rebecca's sister would have knowledge of Rebecca's beliefs regarding suicide. I don't think suicide is necessarily an everyday topic of conversation for most people, regardless of one's spiritual beliefs. Her sister seems pretty firm in her statements regarding Rebecca's beliefs on the matter. How did her sister arrive at this conclusion?

As I've said, I'm not convinced of the official ruling on Rebecca's death, but I believe that it's important to pay attention to each and every detail if we are to arrive at the truth.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

It seems like there are women's clothing in the second bedroom of the guest house. That's what is confusing me at the moment.

So was Adam in the first bedroom of the guest house?

The one where they saw the suitcase?

imo

 

[HowLoveCanBe]

I have to go back and read that part more closely. It seemed a little confusing to me.

IMO

From the autopsy report: The guest house consisted of two bedrooms. One of the rooms had a suitcase and the other had an unmade bed, a few pieces of women's clothing on the floor, make up wipes on the dresser and a glass with clear liquid on the night stand.

 

[jjenny]

Rebecca's sister has stated that Rebecca believed that suicide would condemn her to Hell.

I wonder how her sister knows Rebecca believed this? I wonder if the topic of suicide had come up @ some point in the past (and if so, in what context - was it a discussion about the topic in general, or was it perhaps a more personal discussion)?

I'm still very skeptical Rebecca's death was suicide - mainly because of the four injuries to her head (but also because of several other factors).

Nevertheless, I'm curious as to why Rebecca's sister would have knowledge of Rebecca's beliefs regarding suicide. I don't think suicide is necessarily an everyday topic of conversation for most people, regardless of one's spiritual beliefs. Her sister seems pretty firm in her statements regarding Rebecca's beliefs on the matter. How did her sister arrive at this conclusion?

As I've said, I'm not convinced of the official ruling on Rebecca's death, but I believe that it's important to pay attention to each and every detail if we are to arrive at the truth.

The sister clearly explained that they were raised Christians and that is their religious belief.

 

[Peaceful]

I can understand your point but at the same time it seems that Rebecca was banished. This was a time of tragedy for everyone involved - and it could have been an opportunity to come together - to support each other. Don't you think Rebecca may have felt compassion towards Dina? The point I was trying to make was that it seems like Rebecca was being isolated by Dina as well as Jonah. Why board the dog? Did Jonah request this? Why have Adam stay in the guest house? Shouldn't he have been in the guest room? Shouldn't Adam and Rebecca have been up all night in the kitchen - waiting for news? Was he there to watch over Rebecca and look over the house? It's as if they were punishing her - and despite this she was doing everything that was asked of her. Driving people to and from the airport, bringing Jonah clothes, cleaning up the broken glass - etc...

What I find most interesting is that according to RN's sister, JS was saying this was a suicide right from the start. Her sister doesn't believe it's a suicide. Her ex-husband doesn't appear to believe it's a suicide (and they were married for years). But JS apparently just believed it was suicide even before the investigation.

That is strange. Although he was likely getting the majority of information from his brother so perhaps he really didn't have an alternate opinion early on. However, I am certainly suprised to hear how easily he accepted the "suicide" ruling that doesn't make the least bit of sense. He has been distant and strange with regards to her death all along, IMO. He never came to her defense or even really said anything about her, only speaking wonderfully of his son and saying basically, yeah, she was great too. The only thing he took the time out to defend in this situation was himself. It is all just too wierd. I don't think he had the reasoning to do this crime, but i do believe he is the only one capable of prompting this cover up. IMO

 

[Kentjbkent]

The way I read it what was in two bedrooms of the guest house is described, then they were invited upstairs of the main house.

That's how I read it as well.

Bedroom # 1 contained a suitcase (possibly Adam's since he was visiting?)

Bedroom #2 contained woman clothing on floor, makeup remover towelettes (woman possibly staying in room....undressed for bed...removed makeup..)

 

[Plumeria5]

No Ocean, I do not think Jonah did it. I have my own idea who did it...if... it was murder but I'm keeping that to myself for now.

I do think JS is worried about his company and what upsets me is it's like Rebecca was just a blip on the screen.

He could have expressed his remorse about her death in a more personal way rather than a PR statement including he and Dina. This was the woman he has been in a relationship with for the last 2 years! I understand the loss of his child was devastating but to lose her too!!

I seriously think that JS and his PR firm think if they keep quoting the LE's information it will go away.

Dr. Drew is covering it right now.

Another thing is that LE seems (to me) to have repeated what AS told them what happened. So that says to me the original scene was tampered with.

Wow a suicide expert on Dr Drew just said that now they have more questions than ever.

Dr. Drew has some good info and good questions.

For example if Adam cut her down how is that his DNA is not on the rope too???

It is just a matter of time before JS's PR representative is on here if not already disguised as a member.

BBM Forgot to take his gloves off???

 

[curiousjo]

The way I read it what was in two bedrooms of the guest house is described, then they were invited upstairs of the main house.

The Guest house and mansion and caretakers place are 3 seperate buildings. Either typo or there was woman clothing in guest house where AS staying. Did they belong to RN, GS, RN neice, or female visitor? I presume suitcase belonged to AS, but maybe RN if JS didn't trust her alone in mansion and kicked her out to guest house with AS or RN wanted company.

Did RN stay there, got dressed for bed (blue Tshirt), cleaned off makeup, drank water....but never went to bed.

This is an official report- shouldn't it make sense?

 

[oceanblueeyes]

If (and that's a big IF) this case is reopened, how much you want to bet evidence goes missing or was destroyed. They've already rushed and painted over the door.

I don't think they rushed to paint over the door. It has been over 7 weeks now and the message was photographed and videoed in its original form imo and included with the LE reports we have not seen.

I don't think they will destroy anything.

IMO

 

[jjenny]

The Guest house and mansion and caretakers place are 3 seperate buildings. Either typo or there was woman clothing in guest house where AS staying. Did they belong to RN, GS, RN neice, or female visitor? I presume suitcase belonged to AS, but maybe RN if JS didn't trust her alone in mansion and kicked her out to guest house with AS.... This is an official report- shouldn't it make sense?

Again, the idea that JS kicked RN out of the main house doesn't fit with what AS said: He last saw RN at 8 pm. She was in the main house. He retired to the guest house.

 

[deanna82437]

It means they sure as he11 didn't test the rope very thoroughly.:banghead:

Nor the liquid in the glass .. :sick:

 

[Quester]

Why were woman clothing in the guesthouse if AS staying there?

I believe we read early on that the guesthouse consisted of two master suites.

 

[jjenny]

I believe we read early on that the guesthouse consisted of two master suites.

The report says guest house consisted of two bedrooms.

 

[tvscum]

Medical Examiner response -- or lack thereof -- to the autopsy issues. This was released through the sheriff's dept here:

http://www.sdsheriff.net/coronado/0906.pdf

 

[Kentjbkent]

So in piecing this together in logical sense with what we know...

Adam last sees Rebecca at 8 pm in main house.

At some point, assuming the woman's clothing was hers (since she was found naked), she retreated to second bedroom and prepared for bed, removing her clothing.

She then enters the bathroom where she uses makeup remover towelettes to remove makeup (photos I have seen of her show her wearing semi-heavy makeup...blue eyeshadow)...

She then climbs into a bed which was later found unmade.

Sometime just prior to 3 am, she awakens and finds (or learned before bedtime) that the son's passing is imminent, so she makes the decision to take her life...and retreats to secure the rope, paint, etc.....

At 7 am, Adam finds her body.

Is this one of the theories being alluded to? I would assume there wasn't a lot of forethought in her suicide plan...don't think I have ever heard of a woman taking the time to remove all her makeup before taking her own life?

 

[HowLoveCanBe]

So was Adam in the first bedroom of the guest house?

The one where they saw the suitcase?

imo

That's what it sounds like - and that he made his bed too. We've all been wondering where Rebecca's clothes were. This is the first time we hear of women's clothing. If it was her clothing did she deliberately leave it on the floor there? We've also heard that she slept naked. Was she sleeping in the blue shirt that was tied to her neck? Maybe this explains why she didn't hear the call - if she was in the guest house she may have had her phone on vibrate so as not to wake Adam. After the final VM, did she get out of bed and not bother putting her clothes back on as she went into the main house?

 

[jjenny]

So in piecing this together in logical sense with what we know...

Adam last sees Rebecca at 8 pm in main house.

At some point, assuming the woman's clothing was hers (since she was found naked), she retreated to second bedroom and prepared for bed, removing her clothing.

She then enters the bathroom where she uses makeup remover towelettes to remove makeup (photos I have seen of her show her wearing semi-heavy makeup...blue eyeshadow)...

She then climbs into a bed which was later found unmade.

Sometime just prior to 3 am, she awakens and finds (or learned before bedtime) that the son's passing is imminent, so she makes the decision to take her life...and retreats to secure the rope, paint, etc.....

At 7 am, Adam finds her body.

Is this one of the theories being alluded to? I would assume there wasn't a lot of forethought in her suicide plan...don't think I have ever heard of a woman taking the time to remove all her makeup before taking her own life?

The main house and guest house are two separate houses. The guest house has two bedrooms. AS says RN was in the main house and he retired to the guest house.

 

[HowLoveCanBe]

So in piecing this together in logical sense with what we know...

Adam last sees Rebecca at 8 pm in main house.

At some point, assuming the woman's clothing was hers (since she was found naked), she retreated to second bedroom and prepared for bed, removing her clothing.

She then enters the bathroom where she uses makeup remover towelettes to remove makeup (photos I have seen of her show her wearing semi-heavy makeup...blue eyeshadow)...

She then climbs into a bed which was later found unmade.

Sometime just prior to 3 am, she awakens and finds (or learned before bedtime) that the son's passing is imminent, so she makes the decision to take her life...and retreats to secure the rope, paint, etc.....

At 7 am, Adam finds her body.

Is this one of the theories being alluded to? I would assume there wasn't a lot of forethought in her suicide plan...don't think I have ever heard of a woman taking the time to remove all her makeup before taking her own life?

Yes. If she was in the guest house was it because she didn't want to be alone in the main house? She could have asked Adam to stay in the guest room I suppose. Or was she not allowed to be in the ICU, and not allowed to be in the main house, but was expected to bring clothes to Jonah the next morning?

 

[Kentjbkent]

The Guest house and mansion and caretakers place are 3 seperate buildings. Either typo or there was woman clothing in guest house where AS staying. Did they belong to RN, GS, RN neice, or female visitor? I presume suitcase belonged to AS, but maybe RN if JS didn't trust her alone in mansion and kicked her out to guest house with AS or RN wanted company.

Did RN stay there, got dressed for bed (blue Tshirt), cleaned off makeup, drank water....but never went to bed.

This is an official report- shouldn't it make sense?

Actually, report states that bed in room with woman's clothing contained an "unmade bed".....so someone climbed under the covers...

But now that I think about it.....odd that report did NOT state that room with suitcase (presumed to be AS) also had "unmade bed".....so where did HE sleep that night????