CA - Rebecca Nalepa - suicide or murder? #9

[jjenny]

This is what I would like to know...

In the first minutes after LE arrived, HAD they found a nude woman, minus ropes, noose, gag, lying dead in grass under a balcony, I can imagine they would immediately ponder PUSHED...or JUMPED?? Murder or Suicide?

But that was NOT the case! What they discovered was a nude woman who was bound at the ankles and feet, noose around her neck, gag around her throat and stuffed in her mouth...

I wanna know WHO exactly FIRST stated, "You know, Bob, looks like it could be a suicide to me..."..

Because I was watching CNN when this story initially broke and the media was IMMEDIATELY reporting it was a possible suicide...

WHO first suggested that theory....cause that certainly wouldn't have been my immediate possibe theory prior to extensive crime scene examination and interviews!!!

What I find most interesting is that according to RN's sister, JS was saying this was a suicide right from the start. Her sister doesn't believe it's a suicide. Her ex-husband doesn't appear to believe it's a suicide (and they were married for years). But JS apparently just believed it was suicide even before the investigation.

 

[deanna82437]

Is it true that Rebecca told her sister she was visiting Max that morning she died? Read it somewhere not sure if that was true or not.

I've not seen that referenced anywhere. Do you have a link to where you saw it?

 

[justice be served]

I think he may very well step down so that he can pursue legal action over all these accusations and innuendo.

JMO

Yes, JS may certainly step down from Medicis and pursue legal accusations. He absolutely has the right to do that. Just as Rebecca's family has the right to pursue their misgivings about the suicide ruling.

And if it is proven that JS is innocent of everything, more power to him to clear his name. I would think that he has the San Diego LE to "thank" for the uprising that has now taken place after Friday's PC. It wasn't served up very well at all.

And finally, I, for one, would like to think that neither one of these deaths were purposeful. They are just tragedies.

 

[tiredblondy]

So are you saying you think Jonah killed Rebecca?

IMO

No Ocean...I do not think JS did it. I do think for his company, he is hoping to get it swept under the table as soon as possible. That is what is so troubling to me. It's like Rebecca was a minor blip on his screen.


As I have said in previous posts...there is much more than meets the eye here. There's a lot the public doesn't know.

All this is my opinion only.

 

[Kentjbkent]

Just curious...

Have there been any media reports concerning the relationship between Adam (brother) and Dina (ex wife) during the last couple of years?

In most divorce situations, family members seem to take sides, especially when domestic violence is involved, so am curious what the relationship was, if any, between these two? Foes or enemies?

Has there been any comment about the relationship between Adam and Rebecca?

 

[justice be served]

I think he may very well step down so that he can pursue legal action over all these accusations and innuendo.

JMO

Yes, JS may certainly step down from Medicis and pursue legal accusations. He absolutely has the right to do that. Just as Rebecca's family has the right to pursue their misgivings about the suicide ruling.

And if it is proven that JS is innocent of everything, more power to him to clear his name. I would think that he has the San Diego LE to "thank" for the uprising that has now taken place after Friday's PC. It wasn't served up very well at all.

And finally, I, for one, would like to think that neither one of these deaths were purposeful. They are just tragedies.

 

[Kentjbkent]

Just curious...

Have there been any media reports concerning the relationship between Adam (brother) and Dina (ex wife) during the last couple of years?

In most divorce situations, family members seem to take sides, especially when domestic violence is involved, so am curious what the relationship was, if any, between these two? Foes or enemies?

Has there been any comment about the relationship between Adam and Rebecca?

 

[revampz]

I don't know if you caught my earlier post, but I don't take "She saved him" as positive at all. I take it as sarcastic. If you imagine that a mom is at her son's bedside and accuses a dad's girlfriend of causing the injury, the dad could have said something like...
What are you talking about???? She didn't cause this injury... She SAVED him. She performed CPR. She called 911. You should be grateful...
IMO that would be just about enough to drive someone over the edge when she hears bad prognosis for her son.

So then the person that painted the note sarcastically said, She saved him, can you save her? Obviously, no. YOU CAN'T IMO

You could be right here because if she wrote this and she just got a supposed phone girl saying he wouldnt make it, who did she think she saved???? because he wasnt saved.

The only other thing is that max had not died yet, I am very interested in this last phone call.......does anyone know if the police actually heard it or was it just Jonah who told them that it was him telling her max wasnt going to make it??

I am still wondering if it wasnt a more threatening phone call from either JS or DS saying something along the lines of you will pay for this, jail blah blah blah, as we know DS thinks RN killed Max.

As max was not yet dead maybe she wasnt told of his impending death in that phone call and she was a bit peeved of and the note on the wall meant.....but I saved him!!!I just cant see the message relating to saving JS....

 

[deanna82437]

Dr. Drew is covering it on HLN now.

 

[jjenny]

I think it was a taunting message left by Rebecca. Since the message was on the inside of the home maybe she expected Jonah to come home when he could not get her to answer the phone.

I think she meant she saved him from a life of loneliness when she came into his life but she knew once he read this message on the door he would not be able to save her. She wanted him to know that. Even though he was powerful and a take charge man he couldn't stop this from happening.

I think she resented that she was left out .....unable to even visit Max at the hospital. It left her totally isolated with time to dwell on the loneliness she felt. She knew nothing was ever going to be the same again.

IMO

The message is addressed to a different person from the one she (whoever she is) saved. She saved HIM Can YOU save her. There HIM and YOU appear to be two different people. So far sarcastic interpretation makes the most sense to me (she saved him (meaning RN saved Max (yea, right, he is going to die) can you save her (no she is going to die too)).

 

[Plumeria5]

I've not seen that referenced anywhere. Do you have a link to where you saw it?

Sorry, I don't know where I saw it.

 

[InTheGarden]

First, I would like to thank all the people who have contributed to these threads on Rebecca and Max. I have learned so much and it has really helped me in critical thinking.

Second, so many of the contributers here are quite bright and bring many different ideas to the table. You amaze me!

There is a precious little six-year-old boy missing from Portland, Oregon. Many of you know about Kyron Horman. I invite all of you to put your minds together to help solve this case.

I am new to this whole blogging thing. Haven't a clue on how to get anything started. Is there any interest out there?

Mea culpa. Threads on Kyron already exist in Featured Case Discussion. All you critial thinking heavyweights, please stop by his thread when you have a chance.

 

[gemvt]

What I find most interesting is that according to RN's sister, JS was saying this was a suicide right from the start. Her sister doesn't believe it's a suicide. Her ex-husband doesn't appear to believe it's a suicide (and they were married for years). But JS apparently just believed it was suicide even before the investigation.

If I was told by LE or my brother or whomever informed Jonah of Rebecca's death that she was found hanging from the balcony at the house, I would presume that she had committed suicide as well.

 

[HowLoveCanBe]

You could be right here because if she wrote this and she just got a supposed phone girl saying he wouldnt make it, who did she think she saved???? because he wasnt saved.

The only other thing is that max had not died yet, I am very interested in this last phone call.......does anyone know if the police actually heard it or was it just Jonah who told them that it was him telling her max wasnt going to make it??

I am still wondering if it wasnt a more threatening phone call from either JS or DS saying something along the lines of you will pay for this, jail blah blah blah, as we know DS thinks RN killed Max.

As max was not yet dead maybe she wasnt told of his impending death in that phone call and she was a bit peeved of and the message was meant.....but I saved him!!!

I just cant see the message relating to saving JS....

He could have died at the scene. If she performed CPR she did save him. That night they may have decided not to continue life-support. Rebecca may have been against that for religious reasons. So she was being blamed for his death when in actuality it was a heart-wrenching moral decision by the parents.

 

[deanna82437]

Sister just states on Dr. Drew message was "She saved him. Can HE save her?"

 

[October]

What I find most interesting is that according to RN's sister, JS was saying this was a suicide right from the start. Her sister doesn't believe it's a suicide. Her ex-husband doesn't appear to believe it's a suicide (and they were married for years). But JS apparently just believed it was suicide even before the investigation.

Perhaps it was a logical conclusion to draw after the message he left her. Only JS knows what was said in it and how it may have influenced her actions.

 

[HowLoveCanBe]

What I find most interesting is that according to RN's sister, JS was saying this was a suicide right from the start. Her sister doesn't believe it's a suicide. Her ex-husband doesn't appear to believe it's a suicide (and they were married for years). But JS apparently just believed it was suicide even before the investigation.

The police also said at the time that it was a violent, and suspicious death. I think they were covering themselves and didn't want the media thinking that it was not a suicide. From the very start it was clear that this was going to be a high-profile case.

 

[SunnieRN]

Sister just states on Dr. Drew message was "She saved him. Can HE save her?"

Wonder what the message truly was. Maybe the family has pictures from LE?

 

[tlneedham]

BBM
Sis, is this you? Just kidding, because my sister is computer phobic. My sister and I walk every morning, and she said the EXACT same things this morning. I totally agree with your post. I try to keep an open mind, and love reading everyone's theories, but I just HAD TO thank your post in person, because you said what I believe much better than I could.

Nope, I doubt it! I didn't go for a walk this AM with anyone. But I did say all this on the phone to my mom last night. So maybe it's floating around in the atmosphere somewhere. LOL

I am glad to hear I may not be alone though!

 

[elementry]

I am a huge supporter of LE in general (due to family background) but if I were a member of Rebecca's family, I may just want to have our investigators take a little into the backgrounds of some of the top officials of this department as well...

Just sayin....

Cause I am just not convinced that this is being rushed to judgment based strictly on the income level of the community and Jonah personally....

Sheriff Gore was definitely the establishment candidate, out-raising his opponents by 5 and 6 to 1 in the 2010 election. First appointed and then seemingly handpicked by the community and county insiders. These give a little idea:

http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20080713/news_1m13sheriff.html
http://www.eastcountymagazine.org/node/1919
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/jun/09/gore-rolls-past-challengers-in-sheriffs-race/
http://www.kpbs.org/news/2010/apr/21/election-san-diego-county-sheriffs-race/