Found Alive CA - Sherri Papini, 34, Redding, 2 November 2016 - #22

[EllieBee]

That’s why I’m all about bayalage lol it doesn’t look as bad as highlights when I’m 5 months overdue for a hair appointment [emoji13]


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I get balayage, too. Highlights and lowlights. I sometimes actually like it BETTER when a little new growth comes in! Looks very natural.

 

[bears10]

You make a great point. However, they had a 50k gofundme. I mean at least that could get her a couple days and some tests. KP claimed she was coughing up blood from Screaming, which makes no sense. If she stayed that they would've wanted to run tests then and there and make sure she didn't have a serious disease. I would think.

They also had the support of the anonymous donor according to CG.

The donor “will support the family in any way he can to ensure they receive the necessary treatment for their recovery,” said Cameron Gamble,

Read more here: http://www.sacbee.com/news/local/crime/article117588963.html#storylink=cpy
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http://www.sacbee.com/news/local/crime/article117588963.html

 

[gitana1]

BIB: I think you mean...by cutting off her WAIST length hair. Sherri had waist length hair and her captors cut it to shoulder length. She had beautiful long waist length hair, it was her trade mark according to KP so I can believe she may have felt humiliated having it chopped off. If she was indeed held captive I doubt whoever chopped her hair off styled it nicely--it'd be just CHOP CHOP CHOP. MOO

I'm sorry. It makes no sense that they cut her hair to "shame" her but left it shoulder length. Sounds more like her appearance was slightly changed to not stand out. If they were going to shame her they'd shave her head. Period.

Yes, this! Even if she had a head injury, they probably wouldn't have kept her (plus that could have happened on any of the 22 days she was gone, and possibly when she broke her nose). My nephew was skateboarding and had a serious accident where he slammed his head into the concrete, was knocked out, had a concussion, was in a lot of pain, went to the ER, and was sent home that day.

It seems like unless you need immediate surgical intervention, a stroke or heart attack are suspected, or a handful of other things, ERs do not end up admitting you.

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She was coughing up blood. Branded. Battered intensively. Broken nose. Injuries in various stages of healing. Emotionally destroyed by her ordeal. And they send her right home? It doesn't make sense to me. Too many things about this case don't make sense. I mean if it was one thing or even two, ok. But there are so many inconsistencies and strange things.

Sigh. I don't know what to think.

 

[Gardener1850]

Another thing (one of many) when I believe it was Sherri's Sister gave a presser and was asked if Sherri had a job she said no comment or words to that effect. How is it we cant know if Sherri held a job? I don't have the link handy so hope i am remembering accurately.

The lack of employment info is one of the few things that bothers me about of this case. We know she previously worked for AT&T and left that job sometime in 2016 (we don't know if she was fired or left on her own). We know she had sold some clothes online-- I think it was on Poshmark? I don't understand her sister saying "I don't have an answer" when asked if Sherri was employed. I'm left wondering if either:
A. Sherri was unemployed and family did not want to admit that out of some sort of embarrassment OR
B. Sherri was employed in something under the table (selling clothes online and not paying business taxes maybe?) and family didn't want to make her subject to an audit
C. Sherri was employed in something embarrassing or/or semi-illegal and asked family not to reveal that

I lean towards a combo of A and B-- that she was unemployed and selling clothes or doing other online selling of items to try to make ends meet. She was essentially a stay-at-home mom but maybe she didn't like that label and maybe her sister knew that and decided not to answer the question.

I realize my responses on this thread make it seem like I fully support everything said in this case but I just believe in supporting victims until it becomes completely obvious they are not victims. I don't think it is obvious what happened in this case yet. I have never regretted supporting someone who claimed to be a victim of a crime. Even when it turns out they are not. Because if they are lying the truth will always eventually come out (See Rita Maze case-- I still don't regret defending Rita even though it turned out she faked her abduction and committed suicide-- today I have only sadness for her and sympathy for her family). We have had some pretty wild cases on this board that if told to me before the evidence came out, I would say-- "No way!" but they really happened and there is evidence it happened as told. When KB and Charlie Carver were missing along with their car in SC no one was floating around the theory that Charlie was killed by a serial killer and KB was being held captive in a shipping container on the SK's property. But that is what actually happened (those not familiar with the case can search Kohlhepp). Sometimes truth is crazier than the things people make up. So I will continue to be on the fence on what I think in this case and try to stick with what LE and MSM interviews have said when looking at the "facts" of this case. JMO.

 

[cluciano63]

The weirdest part to me is LE's handling of the case as far as statements, posters requesting info etc...as if they are unsure any crime was committed. At face value, it has the makings of a horrendous crime yet LE seems not to think so. So what the H is going on and why would a year pass without LE knowing one way or the other?

 

[Dushi]

The weirdest part to me is LE's handling of the case as far as statements, posters requesting info etc...as if they are unsure any crime was committed. At face value, it has the makings of a horrendous crime yet LE seems not to think so. So what the H is going on and why would a year pass without LE knowing one way or the other?

I agree. It is as if they know far more than they are letting out.
If this is random, there are some dangerous people walking free out there

 

[MsFacetious]

I'm kind of thinking they didn't, but Sherri reeeeaaally wanted to have an affair with him. My theory is that they had been texting and he thought it was innocent long-distance flirting. But when she found out he was going to be in San Francisco for a medical conference, she insisted on seeing him. I think he said no. So she went to San Francisco to try to force a meeting. (She seems like the type that would stalk a doctor!) He still refused, so she thought "I'll show him. He's going to feel terrible for not letting me stay with him!"

I have a lot of personal experience with borderline personality disorder and I see it written all over this case.

Also lots of personal experience with it here.
That is probably the only way I can see this being a hoax.
I would think a drug binge wouldn't make you lucid enough to do this kind of story telling.
I still wonder about chaining yourself, branding yourself, how she transported 150 miles....
However, Borderline does fit with the earlier reports of her family calling LE.
It also fits with some of the other things we have heard about Sheri since her recovery.
Perhaps she recognized it was an issue had been able to keep it under control for a decade or so... and then lost control.

 

[darring21]

I agree. It is as if they know far more than they are letting out.
If this is random, there are some dangerous people walking free out there

Perhaps LE has a pretty good idea what happened and some evidence. They would prefer their suspect(s) admit guilt and plead to a fairly minor charge. In order to entice the suspect(s), they may release additional embarrassing information. I don't know for sure.

 

[Dushi]

Perhaps LE has a pretty good idea what happened and some evidence. They would prefer their suspect(s) admit guilt and plead to a fairly minor charge. In order to entice the suspect(s), they may release additional embarrassing information. I don't know for sure.

Anything is possible at this point, LOL
It is rather interesting that they are releasing bits and pieces with a promise of more to come

JMO

 

[gitana1]

The lack of employment info is one of the few things that bothers me about of this case. We know she previously worked for AT&T and left that job sometime in 2016 (we don't know if she was fired or left on her own). We know she had sold some clothes online-- I think it was on Poshmark? I don't understand her sister saying "I don't have an answer" when asked if Sherri was employed. I'm left wondering if either:
A. Sherri was unemployed and family did not want to admit that out of some sort of embarrassment OR
B. Sherri was employed in something under the table (selling clothes online and not paying business taxes maybe?) and family didn't want to make her subject to an audit
C. Sherri was employed in something embarrassing or/or semi-illegal and asked family not to reveal that

I lean towards a combo of A and B-- that she was unemployed and selling clothes or doing other online selling of items to try to make ends meet. She was essentially a stay-at-home mom but maybe she didn't like that label and maybe her sister knew that and decided not to answer the question.

I realize my responses on this thread make it seem like I fully support everything said in this case but I just believe in supporting victims until it becomes completely obvious they are not victims. I don't think it is obvious what happened in this case yet. I have never regretted supporting someone who claimed to be a victim of a crime. Even when it turns out they are not. Because if they are lying the truth will always eventually come out (See Rita Maze case-- I still don't regret defending Rita even though it turned out she faked her abduction and committed suicide-- today I have only sadness for her and sympathy for her family). We have had some pretty wild cases on this board that if told to me before the evidence came out, I would say-- "No way!" but they really happened and there is evidence it happened as told. When KB and Charlie Carver were missing along with their car in SC no one was floating around the theory that Charlie was killed by a serial killer and KB was being held captive in a shipping container on the SK's property. But that is what actually happened (those not familiar with the case can search Kohlhepp). Sometime truth is crazier than the things people make up. So I will continue to be on the fence on what I think in this case and try to stick with what LE and MSM interviews have said when looking at the "facts" of this case. JMO.

Truth to all you've stated.

People have mentioned the marijuana industry a few times and making money during trimming season. Lots of people do it. They trim on farms to make extra money. It's seasonal. Ends in mid-November.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/248175/

$200.00 per pound trimmed to the trimmer.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/matado...season-trimming-weed-humbolt-county-like/amp/

I've scoffed at the suggestion that she was involved in something like that. It sounds silly to me. SP? Middle class supermom? Conservative based on her social media. It doesn't fit.

But I'm trying to come up with anything that could explain this. There are some sketchy people involved in the industry. Some very normal people too but those who come to trim, well they're a motley group so I've heard. Is it possible she got involved with someone through that who could've done something to her for some unknown reason? Maybe to take her earnings or because they were high as a kite on meth?

I don't think so but I'm grasping.

 

[gitana1]

BBM
Licensed Master Cosmetologist here.
Yes, new growth will start showing around that time but it also depends on how fast your hair grows. Hair grows from 1/4 - 1/2 inch a month and depending on how dark the natural colour is also a factor in determining if the new growth is visible, in my experience.

Thanks! I appreciate your expertise!

As far as anything AS said, I wouldn't put much stock in it. She never stopped her car, and she drove by SP at 70+ mph in the dark. She really wouldn't have been able to see anything except a nondescript figure making some movement. AS, I believe, filled in details and embellished a bit. Not saying she wasn't well meaning. But when you're being hounded for interviews, you want to be as helpful as you can.

Yeah i don't think she plays a big part in anything. She was driving by fast, alarmed and probably trying to fill in blanks in her mind.

Does anyone remember when the VI said something about the truck driver putting a blanket around her when he pulled over to help her? Depending on what they used to find the DNA (hair, skin, etc..) could it have transferred from that?
There were a few other things the VI mentioned that I wish we could re-visit. I vaguely remember something mentioned about SP being fed food laced with drugs...? Does anyone else remember this stuff or am I making it up? lol

¡¡¡WELCOME!!!

There were reports that the DNA did not come from the trucker or the first responders.

 

[Rocco]

I'm sorry. It makes no sense that they cut her hair to "shame" her but left it shoulder length. Sounds more like her appearance was slightly changed to not stand out. If they were going to shame her they'd shave her head. Period.



She was coughing up blood. Branded. Battered intensively. Broken nose. Injuries in various stages of healing. Emotionally destroyed by her ordeal. And they send her right home? It doesn't make sense to me. Too many things about this case don't make sense. I mean if it was one thing or even two, ok. But there are so many inconsistencies and strange things.

Sigh. I don't know what to think.

Yes, and add the significant weight loss to your list and it's very strange she was stable enough to send her home after only a few hours.

 

[Gardener1850]

Truth to all you've stated.

People have mentioned the marijuana industry a few times and making money during trimming season. Lots of people do it. They trim on farms to make extra
money. It's seasonal. Ends in mid-November.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/248175/

$200.00 per pound trimmed to the trimmer.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/matado...season-trimming-weed-humbolt-county-like/amp/

I've scoffed at the suggestion that she was involved in something like that. It sounds silly to me. SP? Middle class supermom? Conservative based on her social media. It doesn't fit.

But I'm trying to come up with anything that could explain this. There are some sketchy people involved in the industry. Some very normal people too but those who come to rein, well they're a motley group so I've heard. Is it possible she got involved with someone through that who could've done something to her for some unknown reason? Maybe to take her earnings or because they were high as a kite on meth?

I don't think so but I'm grasping.

People do a lot of odd things to make money. I don't think she was involved with trimming work, but there are many other perfectly legal things that she could be doing that she would not want to be public info. I'd rather not speculate on what the work was specifically, but perhaps her side-work got her into trouble somehow with the people who abducted her. IDK. It is a puzzler. Have we heard anything about LE interviewing previous employers or coworkers of Sherri or of KP? I can't recall, but it seems like that would be standard practice to rule out a workplace connection. She was employed by AT&T and we don't know why she stopped working there.

 

[DakotaMayi]

OMG ... what a coincidence that the P's were dressed up as cowboys with bandanas for Halloween just a few days before SP was abducted ... and the photo of KP with a bandana covering part of his face ...

:gaah: Seriously, you can't make this stuff up ...

:thinking: The above photo just took me back to my original theory ... but I do not believe I am allowed to post my original theory here due to the TOS.

:innocent: and :moo:

BBM. Exactly! No one can. No one could think this up.. (well, someone could) but this case basically pins Occam's damn Razor to the wall and shoots it into a million pieces.

 

[DakotaMayi]

I'm sorry. It makes no sense that they cut her hair to "shame" her but left it shoulder length. Sounds more like her appearance was slightly changed to not stand out. If they were going to shame her they'd shave her head. Period.



She was coughing up blood. Branded. Battered intensively. Broken nose. Injuries in various stages of healing. Emotionally destroyed by her ordeal. And they send her right home? It doesn't make sense to me. Too many things about this case don't make sense. I mean if it was one thing or even two, ok. But there are so many inconsistencies and strange things.

Sigh. I don't know what to think.

I bolded nearly all of your post :blushing: but you took the words right out of my mouth. It's not one thing, it's 10 or 20 things and I just can't get over that. And the hair things just makes it sound like she didn't want to be recognized for a bit.

I don't know sleuths, maybe I'm wrong, and I'll be the first to admit it if I am, but I didn't believe it when I had read only a small amount about it and I still don't now that I've looked into it more.

 

[gitana1]

Yes, and add the significant weight loss to your list and it's very strange she was stable enough to send her home after only a few hours.

Just a few hours for:

1. A standard check up.
2. A rape kit and DNA testing.
3. X-rays and possible MRI due to the extreme battering and broken nose.
4. If she had lost so much weight, I imagine IV fluids for dehydration.
5. Photographing her condition and cataloguing her injuries for the police report/investigation.
6. Collection of her clothing for the investigation.
7. Mental health assessment and assistance/meds due to extreme distress.
8. Blood or other testing including testing to rule out other reasons for coughing up blood from screaming.
9. Treatment for physical exhaustion.
10. Treatment of her extensive injuries/bruises/broken bone/branding.

Im not an expert but that all takes a looong time. I mean we've all been to the ER many times in our lives for ourselves, kids, parents, what have you. We all know how long it takes. Especially around holidays when people are drinking more and having more mental health issues/fights, overindulging, etc.

But SP was never even admitted to the hospital. Just treated and released after some hours.

I don't know. I suppose it's possible but it seems to indicate her injuries weren't as severe as KP so dramatically described.

 

[Pamela_Brewer]

Inside Edition interview with AS. She states SP was wearing ONLY A T SHIRT!

http://www.insideedition.com/media/...-missing-mom-believes-she-was-kidnapped-37558

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[DakotaMayi]

The lack of employment info is one of the few things that bothers me about of this case. We know she previously worked for AT&T and left that job sometime in 2016 (we don't know if she was fired or left on her own). We know she had sold some clothes online-- I think it was on Poshmark? I don't understand her sister saying "I don't have an answer" when asked if Sherri was employed. I'm left wondering if either:
A. Sherri was unemployed and family did not want to admit that out of some sort of embarrassment OR
B. Sherri was employed in something under the table (selling clothes online and not paying business taxes maybe?) and family didn't want to make her subject to an audit
C. Sherri was employed in something embarrassing or/or semi-illegal and asked family not to reveal that

I lean towards a combo of A and B-- that she was unemployed and selling clothes or doing other online selling of items to try to make ends meet. She was essentially a stay-at-home mom but maybe she didn't like that label and maybe her sister knew that and decided not to answer the question.

I realize my responses on this thread make it seem like I fully support everything said in this case but I just believe in supporting victims until it becomes completely obvious they are not victims. I don't think it is obvious what happened in this case yet. I have never regretted supporting someone who claimed to be a victim of a crime. Even when it turns out they are not. Because if they are lying the truth will always eventually come out (See Rita Maze case-- I still don't regret defending Rita even though it turned out she faked her abduction and committed suicide-- today I have only sadness for her and sympathy for her family). We have had some pretty wild cases on this board that if told to me before the evidence came out, I would say-- "No way!" but they really happened and there is evidence it happened as told. When KB and Charlie Carver were missing along with their car in SC no one was floating around the theory that Charlie was killed by a serial killer and KB was being held captive in a shipping container on the SK's property. But that is what actually happened (those not familiar with the case can search Kohlhepp). Sometimes truth is crazier than the things people make up. So I will continue to be on the fence on what I think in this case and try to stick with what LE and MSM interviews have said when looking at the "facts" of this case. JMO.

I truly appreciate this post, Gardener. Actually, I appreciate you, I think you're one of the best sleuths around here. And I 100% support Sherri.... in terms of her recovery etc. I so hope she gets the help she needs to get her life back on track and make a fresh start whether she was abducted by these two women or whether it was something entirely different. As I just said in a post up above, I'll be honest and say that I'm not buying what she's selling BUT I will be the first to admit I am wrong if the information comes to light that this was the whole truth. And you're right, KB and CC case was mind blowing. It went from a drugs to a car accident to one of the creepiest serial killers. It ended up being no where near what I (and a lot of people) thought. This might just be one of those cases. I'm not feeling that right now, but my opinion is subject to change when more information comes to light.

For now though, I really do hope Sherri is in a better place than she was and that eventually, she can move past whatever the hell happened November 2, 2016.

 

[DakotaMayi]

Just a few hours for:

1. A standard check up.
2. A rape kit and DNA testing.
3. X-rays and possible MRI due to the extreme battering and broken nose.
4. If she had lost so much weight, I imagine IV fluids for dehydration.
5. Photographing her condition and cataloguing her injuries for the police report/investigation.
6. Collection of her clothing for the investigation.
7. Mental health assessment and assistance/meds due to extreme distress.
8. Blood or other testing including testing to rule out other reasons for coughing up blood from screaming.
9. Treatment for physical exhaustion.
10. Treatment of her extensive injuries/bruises/broken bone/branding.

Im not an expert but that all takes a looong time. I mean we've all been to the ER many times in our lives for ourselves, kids, parents, what have you. We all know how long it takes. Especially around holidays when people are drinking more and having more mental health issues/fights, overindulging, etc.

But SP was never even admitted to the hospital. Just treated and released after some hours.

I don't know. I suppose it's possible but it seems to indicate her injuries weren't as severe as KP so dramatically described.

Yes. It takes more than a few hours just to go for a damn appointment for one issue. Add in all of the extra, I was expecting her to be in for a few days.

 

[Cannonball3804]

Just a few hours for:

1. A standard check up.
2. A rape kit and DNA testing.
3. X-rays and possible MRI due to the extreme battering and broken nose.
4. If she had lost so much weight, I imagine IV fluids for dehydration.
5. Photographing her condition and cataloguing her injuries for the police report/investigation.
6. Collection of her clothing for the investigation.
7. Mental health assessment and assistance/meds due to extreme distress.
8. Blood or other testing including testing to rule out other reasons for coughing up blood from screaming.
9. Treatment for physical exhaustion.
10. Treatment of her extensive injuries/bruises/broken bone/branding.

Im not an expert but that all takes a looong time. I mean we've all been to the ER many times in our lives for ourselves, kids, parents, what have you. We all know how long it takes. Especially around holidays when people are drinking more and having more mental health issues/fights, overindulging, etc.

But SP was never even admitted to the hospital. Just treated and released after some hours.

I don't know. I suppose it's possible but it seems to indicate her injuries weren't as severe as KP so dramatically described.

Yeah, Even if you view SP's condition in a light most favorable to her, there really is no reason to keep her? Does she have a head injury and possible brain swelling? No. Are her vitals normal? Yes. Any concerns from the blood work? No.

You give her fluids if she appears dehydrated. If her nose is dislocated, you set it. If the bruises show no sign of an infection, there's nothing to do in treating them except time. The brand - put antibiotic and maybe a bandage on it. And that's it.

Trust me, I have concerns about this case, but the lack of a hospital stay is not one of them. What would the doctors and nurses have been able to do for her by keeping her? Absolutely nothing, even if everything she said happened to her actually did.