Found Alive CA - Sherri Papini, 34, Redding, 2 November 2016 - #22

[rsd1200]

KP said she was battered practically beyond recognition and had a broken nose and injuries everywhere. So why not a head injury? Of course being released within hours doesn't lend itself to that theory. Neither does the lack of a statement by LE about a brain injury and resultant memory problems. You're right.



KP did.



Do roots grow out in 22 days?

Yes. My daughter is a darker blond, and has colored her hair every color under the rainbow, but, within three weeks the roots will start to show. Maybe not a lot, based on when she got her cut, but you will see some darkness. The average rate of growth is about a .5 inch of hair per month. I must be abi-normal b/c unless I cut mine with the signs, .5 inch per month is on the short side for me, and for my kids.

 

[Wyle_E_Coyote]

I think the haircut was a practical move to make it easier to care for her hair while she was chained up. She had something around her waist that connected to the hose clamps at her wrists. If they left her hair at waist length it would be all tangled in the restraints in a matter of minutes. They might have even cut it off after it got badly tangled. She may have very well FELT shamed when they chopped her waist length hair to shoulder length but without knowing more about how and when it was done it is hard to say that the hair cutting was only done to shame her. JMO.

So... The kidnappers were beating her, branding her, starving her, breaking her nose... But they cared about her long hair getting tangled?

Maybe the two were hair stylists gone rogue!

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[Deleted member 50844]

You don't need a set of hair clippers to truly hack up a head of hair. Anyone who was a little girl with a Barbie doll and a pair of scissors knows that, lol.
If 'they' were truly trying to shame, humiliate, whatever was being reported, they could easily have chopped her hair very short to look horrible.
Now, if someone who had signature hair were trying to make it seem that way, they might not be able to bring themselves to do that and would possibly stop at a shoulder length cut.
IMO.

 

[UndiscoveredTruth]

I've always felt that cutting her hair was never an attempt to alter her identity, but was done to either prove a point or shame her. Or, they may not have had the tools to shave it...? If it were two women, who is to say they owned clippers that were capable of shaving a whole head of hair? I'm a female and don't own clippers. We have some, but they belong to my boyfriend. I have razors for shaving my legs, etc., but it would be somewhat difficult to shave a woman's head with those, IMO.

I agree, very difficult indeed. I'm kind of leaning towards this being *very personal*. I could see females chopping another females hair solely because they are jealous of it......and moreso of her. Why shave Sherri's head, it takes way longer and it's messy as....so much easier to just grab the scissors and chop chop! I don't know of many females who carry any type of shaving equipment around with them, but I do know many who have scissors in their car or bag. Dependings on where she was held captive I guess. There's still so much we don't know. :scared:

 

[bears10]

Sarcasm noted lol
I get what you're saying - yeah, they could've had access to clippers. Absolutely.
I've got pretty long hair and would be devastated if 8 or so inches were cut off of it. If I were to cut someone's 'signature long blonde hair' to shame them, I would put it in a ponytail and chop that off. It would probably leave a shoulder-length bob look, I guess...

If I was held hostage, blindfolded, starved, beaten, and had NO idea why or who my captors were, the last thing on my mind would be my hair. Humiliation would be the last emotion I’d feel. Go ahead and humiliate me if it means I will make it out alive and be with my family again. I think the humiliating haircut thing is a strange aspect of this case. Shoulder length hair isn’t humiliating. A choppy mushroom cut? now maybe that’d be embarrassing.


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[rsd1200]

Truth to all you've stated.

People have mentioned the marijuana industry a few times and making money during trimming season. Lots of people do it. They trim on farms to make extra money. It's seasonal. Ends in mid-November.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/mother-super-mom-sherri-papini-told-police-daughter/story?id=46477176

$200.00 per pound trimmed to the trimmer.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/matado...season-trimming-weed-humbolt-county-like/amp/

I've scoffed at the suggestion that she was involved in something like that. It sounds silly to me. SP? Middle class supermom? Conservative based on her social media. It doesn't fit.

But I'm trying to come up with anything that could explain this. There are some sketchy people involved in the industry. Some very normal people too but those who come to trim, well they're a motley group so I've heard. Is it possible she got involved with someone through that who could've done something to her for some unknown reason? Maybe to take her earnings or because they were high as a kite on meth?

I don't think so but I'm grasping.

Could she have been doing the pot trimming, on the side line and got into it with someone, who she couldn't handle this time? She has a history of odd behavior. Maybe she pulled something on them, or tried to, and they put her in her place.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/mother-super-mom-sherri-papini-told-police-daughter/story?id=46477176

 

[gitana1]

Could she have been doing the pot trimming, on the side line and got into it with someone, who she couldn't handle this time? She has a history of odd behavior. Maybe she pulled something on them, or tried to, and they put her in her place.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/mother-super-mom-sherri-papini-told-police-daughter/story?id=46477176

I mean anything is possible. I'm trying to come up with something that reconciles the odd parts of this strange case.

 

[Lilibet]

It sounds normal to me for a case like this. And they stated many were for electronic stuff.



Yeah, that is why I was careful not to include the hours waiting in the waiting room, knowing that SP would've not had to have done that.

Regardless, she is not going to go to the front of the line in front of car accidents, drug overdoses, heart attacks, children having breathing issues, gun shot victims, strokes.

We all know what the ER is like. They're going to take the people at risk of death first. She had to wait.

And once again, that is a long list of things they'd likely have to do to her. Priority or not. All of that takes time. And wouldn't be done at the same time.

Woodland Memorial Hospital is not a large hospital (122 beds) and I suspect the ER wasn’t handling a lot of emergencies in the very early morning on Thanksgiving. It serves a mostly rural area. It’s not like an ER in a large city. I don’t think it’s impossible that she could have been released in 8 hours max, which would be early afternoon. It’s also possible that she insisted on going home against medical advice. We don’t know for sure. JMO

http://www.hospital-data.com/hospitals/WOODLAND-MEMORIAL-HOSPITAL-WOODLAND.html

 

[gitana1]

It's possible she refused a lot of this. It's also possible that she simply said she wasn't staying, wanted to be home after her ordeal, see the kids, etc. (Contrary to what some hospitals will tell you, the insurance does not refuse to pay if you refuse further treatment and walk out. I did quite a bit of research on this myself after being told this once. Many employees have been led to believe this and aren't actively lying about it because they believe it, but there's no evidence to support the claim.)

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Yeah. I know she didn't see the kids for days but it is certainly possible that she just refused services. I mean Denise Huskins inspired the ire, suspicion and blame of LE after she was released from captivity and refused to stick around and talk to LE. So it happens and is possible.

 

[gitana1]

Well, good thing she wasn't sexually assaulted... No rape kit...

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I'm sure they'd press for that regardless of what she said. But as Vmking pointed out, it is true that she could just refuse. So as with everything else in this case, there are possible explanations for this one thing.

 

[BrownRice]

I lost more than that a year ago, and had other serious symptoms. While my doctors were concerned, none of them wanted to hospitalize me.

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But are you so thin that the weight loss resulted in you being 80 something pounds? I think many people could lose 10-15lbs and have it not be a real big issue, but when you weigh 80lbs as an adult, that's serious.

 

[bradfordsleuth]

I keep going back to the fact that she was found approx 150 miles away from where she was abducted.
She had to have gotten there somehow!
That piece of information, and the fact that she had two small kids who needed their mom for those 22 days are what is convincing me that this was not staged.

You can't fake the love that I see in those family pictures IMO...and with no prior (known) drug abuse habits, I cannot see any other reason why she would have voluntarily left her husband and very small children for over three weeks, just to return malnourished, branded, beaten, had her hair chopped off, and experienced a high degree of mental trauma (chained and dropped off in the wee hours of the morning in the middle of no where.)

No three week sex-a-thon (no matter how good the sex may be!) with an acquaintance or anyone would be worth that!!! Again, JMO. Maybe it is just me talking as a mom who loves her husband and kids to bits, but I cannot fathom how any mother in what appears to be an outwardly happy marriage can do that. It makes no sense to me. JMO
I know that people leave their families all the time, but usually there is some sort of sign of trouble before that happens and I have not seen any evidence of anything (drugs, major debts, another man/woman, etc.)
I have no explanation for LE's release of the info regarding her texting a man....they have done it for a purpose, but for the life of me, I have no clue why. I would be really interested to know if he was Hispanic though.

If this was a hoax for publicity (which was suggested early on), I can almost guarantee that she would have hit the talk show circuits to talk about her horrible experience. Instead, there is radio silence from her. Crickets. This is very telling IMO.

It could mean that the police have instructed her to stay quiet, she is too afraid of the public assault that would come with people dissecting her every word and looking for lies, she is terrified of repercussions from her abductors, or she is lying and doesn't want to get caught in a lie. I tend to think that it is a mixture of the first three suggestions, IMO.

This is all JMO, MOO, and a mishmash of thoughts that have been jumbling around my head since this thread re-opened.

Nothing stated above is meant to offend anyone or be presumptuous, I have just wanted to get these thoughts down for days now. JMO

 

[MaryG12]

Kind of a weird question about SP's hair:

Do we know at what point her kidnappers chopped off her long hair?

Is there any chance the haircut happened as a result of leaving that part of her life "behind"?

Reason I ask is I know a lady who recently underwent a drastic hairstyle change, she is trying to get her life together after Al-Anon.

 

[UndiscoveredTruth]

I wonder how the kidnappers came to know that Sherri's signature long blonde hair was such a BFD. And once they did know, if they decided to use that to humiliate her (???? Why???? Why is that "humiliating".?? Upsetting, sure. But c'mon), why give her a normal 'do like a shoulder-length cut? Shaving would be a hassle but you could hack it short with scissors so it looked awful. Hell, that happens by accident in salons all the time 😃 . So yeah, I think it was done as a lame disguise, or to make care easier.

I am with those who would love to know if her legs etc. were shaved when she was released.

I'm moving on from the head hair issue...mainly because I simply do not know how it was cut, what it looked like etc. It may have looked ugly and messy, or it may have been cut nice and tidy/straight, we just don't know. What others find humiliating, some may not, it's all subjective really. :thinking:

I too would like to know if her legs had been shaved recently (before her release) or her armpits, eyebrows too, did they look like they'd been plucked (?) Would be very telling in my opinion. I guess we may never know.

 

[Stripehaven]

Another thing that IMO is highly weird is KP telling the kids that Mommy would be home for Thanksgiving. Et voila. I can imagine him saying, "We HOPE she will be home by T-Day," but why would you assure the child unless you KNEW? Yet another puzzling aspect.

 

[UndiscoveredTruth]

I keep going back to the fact that she was found approx 150 miles away from where she was abducted.
She had to have gotten there somehow!
That piece of information, and the fact that she had two small kids who needed their mom for those 22 days are what is convincing me that this was not staged.

You can't fake the love that I see in those family pictures IMO...and with no prior (known) drug abuse habits, I cannot see any other reason why she would have voluntarily left her husband and very small children for over three weeks, just to return malnourished, branded, beaten, had her hair chopped off, and experienced a high degree of mental trauma (chained and dropped off in the wee hours of the morning in the middle of no where.)

No three week sex-a-thon (no matter how good the sex may be!) with an acquaintance or anyone would be worth that!!! Again, JMO. Maybe it is just me talking as a mom who loves her husband and kids to bits, but I cannot fathom how any mother in what appears to be an outwardly happy marriage can do that. It makes no sense to me. JMO
I know that people leave their families all the time, but usually there is some sort of sign of trouble before that happens and I have not seen any evidence of anything (drugs, major debts, another man/woman, etc.)
I have no explanation for LE's release of the info regarding her texting a man....they have done it for a purpose, but for the life of me, I have no clue why. I would be really interested to know if he was Hispanic though.

If this was a hoax for publicity (which was suggested early on), I can almost guarantee that she would have hit the talk show circuits to talk about her horrible experience. Instead, there is radio silence from her. Crickets. This is very telling IMO.

It could mean that the police have instructed her to stay quiet, she is too afraid of the public assault that would come with people dissecting her every word and looking for lies, she is terrified of repercussions from her abductors, or she is lying and doesn't want to get caught in a lie. I tend to think that it is a mixture of the first three suggestions, IMO.

This is all JMO, MOO, and a mishmash of thoughts that have been jumbling around my head since this thread re-opened.

Nothing stated above is meant to offend anyone or be presumptuous, I have just wanted to get these thoughts down for days now. JMO

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[Deleted member 158085]

But are you so thin that the weight loss resulted in you being 80 something pounds? I think many people could lose 10-15lbs and have it not be a real big issue, but when you weigh 80lbs as an adult, that's serious.

I lost nearly 30 lbs in a couple of months and looked like a bag of bones. I was disgusted to look at myself. It was pretty bad.

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[UndiscoveredTruth]

Another thing that IMO is highly weird is KP telling the kids that Mommy would be home for Thanksgiving. Et voila. I can imagine him saying, "We HOPE she will be home by T-Day," but why would you assure the child unless you KNEW? Yet another puzzling aspect.

It is weird. How did he know? A parent doesn't normally tell their children the other parent will be home on a specific day if they have no idea when they'll be home! Maybe a ... "Mommy will be home soon" but a specific day---well maybe he's psychic, I don't know! Second thoughts, nah, if his psychic abilities were that sharp Sherri would have been found alot sooner and there'd have been an arrest not long after lol. So how did he know Sherri would be home for Thanksgiving, that's the million dollar question... :thinking:

 

[bluesneakers]

I thought he was weird he told his kids "I found Mommy."

 

[bradfordsleuth]

I thought he was weird he told his kids "I found Mommy."

I agree. I also thought it was a bit strange...but then maybe he didn't want to scare them by saying a stranger found mommy, or the police found mommy. Sometimes I abbreviate things I tell my kids to avoid the floodgate of questions that follow. Saves my sanity at times. LOL