Found Alive CA - Sherri Papini, 34, Redding, 2 November 2016 - #22

[Rayemonde]

I know it was dated 2003, but do we know for a fact that it was actually written or posted then?

I have a website and I can go back and change post dates if I choose in order to bump them to the top. So I'm wondering if we have proof that it existed before her disappearance.

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Yes, because it was only visible on the Web using the "Wayback Machine", which archives Internet pages from years ago and saves snapshots of them.

 

[Cannonball3804]

Similarities between the Skinheadz post and SP's abduction:
(1) Latinos
(2) Females
(3) Being attacked/bullied/taken
(4) "Slamming" the female Latino bully's head down
(5) Injury to the leg/foot
(6) walking to freedom/safety

This is impossible to ignore.

EDITED TO ADD: If you real the original blog, there is also a reference to a broken nose (though in the blog it's the bully who has her nose broken).

 

[Deleted member 158085]

Yes, because it was only visible on the Web using the "Wayback Machine", which archives Internet pages from years ago and saves snapshots of them.

Thank you.

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[SpanishInquisition]

I know it was dated 2003, but do we know for a fact that it was actually written or posted then?

I have a website and I can go back and change post dates if I choose in order to bump them to the top. So I'm wondering if we have proof that it existed before her disappearance.

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Yes, this is the time stamped Archive.org scrape of the website from 2003:
http://web.archive.org/web/20031211071030/http://www.skinheadz.com/pages/home/home.html
So the Internet Archive independently confirms it was created in 2003.

You can view the complete history of that URL here:
http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.skinheadz.com/pages/home/home.html

 

[rsd1200]

Daddy found Mommy just in time for Thanksgiving, as promised. Perhaps the child will ask how Daddy knew that would happen.

Yep, they'd have questioned that, just as much as they'd have questioned, "they" found mommy, or Mommy is on her way home! I've got grandkids and the questions never end. I'd forgotten how many questions kids have. I could see them asking him how he found her, where he found her, when (since he was with them), Where is she? Seein' how she was 150 miles away... I could go on forever.

 

[Stripehaven]

MI?
Interesting

Yes! Things that make you go "hmmmm..."

 

[Satchie]

No. IMO, there is no way she could have self inflicted. She was going to be trafficked. The branding and abuse are consistent with that hypothesis. These are low lifes who got scared because just about everyone knew who she was.

MOO.

I have speculated that, in return for being let go, she promised to lie about her kidnapping and captor(s).

 

[Stripehaven]

I see evidence that the kidnapping could have been staged (or SP's version of it, at least):

1. Pictures of family just a few days before the disappearance, with the entire family wearing bandannas and two of them with bandannas covering half of their faces.

2. Cell phone found with earbuds neatly coiled on the phone.

3. SP's history of blaming others for injuries that may have been self-inflicted. (You may say this is not a clue, but if anyone checked my history, they would not find a call to police in which anyone said I injured myself and blamed someone else for it).

4. SP's mother posted on FB about the presidential election and other matters, while SP was missing. Very peculiar behavior. Would you be able to do that if your daughter went missing and a huge search was launched to find her? Only if you know things weren't as they seemed, right?

5. SP seems to have selective memory about what happened during the 22 days. She can remember smashing one of their faces into the toilet, but can't remember what the vehicle looked like and took a year to remember enough about her captors to produce a sketch.

6. No motive. SP doesn't even know the motive.

7. Bound with one hand free.

8. LE being elusive on several matters, including the extent of SP's injuries compared to what KP said about them. LE pointing out inconsistencies in SP's story, like the cut on her foot she says she sustained, but wasn't there.

9. KP said to his kids, "she will be home by Thanksgiving". (I do not think KP was involved in SP's disappearance, but I do think he knows why she disappeared.)

10. SP shows up on Thanksgiving! This stands out to me more than anything else. Even if KP hadn't mentioned the holiday to his kids, the fact that SP could re-appear, alive, the survivor, on Thanksgiving morning, is very suspicious to me.

11. She was not sexually assaulted. (Again, what was the motive if not sex or ransom?)

12. LE has never been concerned that others might be in danger from the two Hispanic women, even though they don't know the motive, and the women are still out there. This makes absolutely no sense, no matter which way you twist and turn it.

13. SP texting with another man with plans to meet up, prior to her disappearance. That man has been cleared, but this is evidence that SP lived part of her life on the sly.

14. A prior internet entry by a Sherri Graeff (SP's prior husband is adamant that SP didn't write it) that states she had to constantly defend herself against Latinos in high school, a group of Latino girls would "constantly rag and attack" her, she had to "constantly stick up for herself instead of knuckling under what the Latino girls said and wanted", a Latino girl took a swipe at her and SP "lunged back at her, slamming her head between the bleachers" (sound familiar?) This is WAY TOO coincidental.

15. Also stated in this blog post: "on the way up the bleachers when I had rebuffed the Latinos, I had split my leg open and it was hard for me to walk. But when my dad picked me up from the police department, the only thing he kept saying to me was, "Sher, I'm proud of you. You did the right thing. Keep on walking. Don't let your leg slow you down. Keep walking."

You say you can't fake the love seen in Papini family pictures. ANYONE can fake love in pictures, posts, etc. We see it all the time on FB. People want to paint the picture of a happy family when what really happens is a completely different story.

You also suggest LE might have instructed SP to stay quiet. But in the latest press release, they say SP and KP are free to talk. They're not doing it, perhaps because they have no answers for so many questions.

All of this, and also the fact that she was released alive at all (vs. escaping). No motive, held for 3 weeks, then released? Does not compute.

 

[rsd1200]

I wonder if they cut her hair after she 'slammed one's head into the toilet'?
That would give them a pretty good reason to be ticked off and do something like that.

If someone slammed my head in the toilet, deliberately, cutting off their hair wouldn't even be on the radar of what I'd do to them... I think, if anything, it was done to make her less distinguishable, if they moved about.

 

[dog.gone.cute]

Daddy found Mommy just in time for Thanksgiving, as promised.

Perhaps the child will ask how Daddy knew that would happen.

:seeya:

BBM: I sure hope WE find out THIS Thanksgiving the TRUTH !

:moo: and :moo:

 

[Stripehaven]

I wonder if SP reads here? Probably she is going about her life, trying to put it all behind her. But I have had a secret hope that she will follow this thread and be unable to stop herself from joining in to explain. My dream.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

I really don't expect either one to come out and talk with the media. I have seen how that has gone way too many times when innocent people talked to the media about what they or their loved one endured. It never seems to go well. Many were totally ripped to shreds by the internet masses and many of them turned out to be totally 100% innocent yet all it caused is more fodder for the ones who totally believed they were all lying.

All I really care about is both of them are still fully cooperating with LE/FBI and these agencies said they are. In the information released by LE they also called the two women suspects.

One of the reasons I hope this case is solved is because if it is not then this woman will still under a cloud of suspicion by some. The worst thing a victim can experience or their family members is to have the case go unsolved when often times the longer its unsolved the more social media relies on assumptions.

I may be wrong but I thought when this first happened a poster linked a couple of articles showing where this kind of kidnapping and branding had happened before? If anyone has those links again I would be interested in reading them again. tia

I cannot and will not call this woman a liar when I have no evidence to support that. If and when the FBI comes out and says they have proof she lied and made the entire thing up... then and only then will my opinion change. I do not believe a hoaxer would go to the extreme of branding their own bodies.

I also believe having her long hair cut would be very traumatic for her. It is one thing to decide to cut one's own long hair but a totally different matter when it was done while being kidnapped by someone who had absolutely no right to do so. To me it was done to demean and humiliate her and showing her she had no control over anything at the time.

JMO though

 

[dog.gone.cute]

It seems she has a history of erratic behaviour. Maybe she made some sort of snap judgement, to participate in something, that turned out to be much different than what she anticipated? So they set their "hostage' free, as one would expect a hostage to be freed. Dramatic and in the middle of nowhere.

There is a company in Michigan, at one time, that would stage a highly realistic kidnapping for you, for your own excitement.
It can go a little too far at times though. IMO

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...Welcome-bizarre-world-extreme-kidnapping.html

BBM: :gasp::gasp: OMG ... and this company is in Michigan ? Really ?

:thinking: Things that make you go hmmmmmmm !

:moo: and :moo:

 

[rsd1200]

Godh that's weird. Strange what people get into.



Very.



But he passed a lie detector test.

All very interesting, but, some folks can pass lie detectors. He may not have known specific answers. Did you harm your wife? No. Do you know where she is at? No. He probably could answer many things correctly, if SP staged something as a bored housewife. She sold that stuff online and was a mom. It seems SP likes a little drama in her life from reading the articles.

 

[rsd1200]

TY for the post! I was just reading it thinking, damn, a few years back my hair was shoulder length (until I let it grow out) nothing humiliating about it. I'm sure there would be much worse things happening to you in that situation.

It's KP that calls SP's hair her "signature" long hair. Like she's a model or movie star. I think the hair meant more to him than anyone else. Just a vibe.

 

[dog.gone.cute]

I wonder if SP reads here?
Probably she is going about her life, trying to put it all behind her.
But I have had a secret hope that she will follow this thread and be unable to stop herself from joining in to explain. My dream.

:seeya:

BBM: JMO but I have absolutely no doubt that she is reading everything and anything about her: the good, the bad, and the ugly !

I find it very odd for someone who loved to be photographed NOT to do an interview after she recuperated from being released from her abductors.

WHY no interview and WHY no photographs of this so-called "supermom" ?

All JMO and :moo:

 

[Dushi]

:seeya:

BBM: JMO but I have absolutely no doubt that she is reading everything and anything about her: the good, the bad, and the ugly !

I find it very odd for someone who loved to be photographed NOT to do an interview after she recuperated from being released from her abductors.

WHY no interview and WHY no photographs of this so-called "supermom" ?

All JMO and :moo:

I don't think she wants to answer the hard questions.
Too many people find her story suspect.
I don't think she is receiving the sympathy that was expected.. All JMO

 

[dog.gone.cute]

It's KP that calls SP's hair her "signature" long hair.
Like she's a model or movie star.
I think the hair meant more to him than anyone else. Just a vibe.

:seeya:

BBM: I think this is a very good point and observation.

:gaah: What's the big deal about her hair with KP : strands of her hair rolled up in the ear buds when he found her phone neatly placed on the ground ... hair chopped off ... :gaah:

:moo:

 

[dog.gone.cute]

I don't think she wants to answer the hard questions.
Too many people find her story suspect.
I don't think she is receiving the sympathy that was expected.. All JMO

:seeya: Exactly !!!

 

[BayouBelle_LA]

All very interesting, but, some folks can pass lie detectors. He may not have known specific answers. Did you harm your wife? No. Do you know where she is at? No. He probably could answer many things correctly, if SP staged something as a bored housewife. She sold that stuff online and was a mom. It seems SP likes a little drama in her life from reading the articles.

It's possible KP passed the lie detector because he truly didn't know anything (in the early stages). I think it's possible SP made contact with him later on and could've even said I'll be home for Thanksgiving.

If she got into something she didn't want anyone to know about and found herself in over her head, who would she contact? I think the answer to that might be her husband. In her shoes, that's what I would do, in hopes that he would protect me and 'fix it'. All just speculation on my part.